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To be honest. From reading all of your statements, I think we actually agree on the big points here and are still managing to pick apart each others arguments for one reason or another.
You are right essentially, we would still have free will despite knowing that there is a God. But what I should have said is that our thinking would be influenced. You have to admit that. for example, If you knew there was a God, when bad things happened, you would no longer just deal with them. You would be thinking, Why would God do this? A lot of people wouldn't really be independent anymore. My point being that perhaps God would try to avoid this for one reason or another. Can you at least see what I'm saying?
As far as beliefs. Yes you can look Athiesm up in different dictionaries. I think of Athiesm as a belief system because it involves making a choice and taking a stand. Agnostisicm is closer to a lack of belief than Athiesm in my book. I just don't get why I was referred to as having "fallascious reasoning" and "Projecting by beliefs" about Atheism for syaing this. My point was that it is still based on what you 'think'.
Anyway, Like I said. I still don't think at the root of this, we even disagree. So unless someone has more too add...
Feb 7, 2011, 6:24:51 PM
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