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Still SMSgt Mac:
I have posted “article after article” that has shown the relative performance of the F-35 to variants of the F-16 is highly dependent upon relative loadouts and weights. The funniest thing is, even IF it were ‘true’ that the leaked report ‘proved’ that particular F-16 was a ‘better dogfighter’ than AF-2 in the scenarios flown (and it doesn’t) it would not be surprising in the least NOR would it in any way be inconsistent with what I’ve posted to date. Why? Because from what little we know of the possible range of F-16 weights and drag index during the test, that particular configuration looks like it sits right where I’ve already shown the F-16 to have transonic acceleration that somewhere between ‘slightly advantageous’ and ‘superior’ to the F-35 KPP configuration, depending upon the amount of fuel on board. (Table: http://elementsofpower.blogspot.com/2015/03/the-f-35-and-infamous-transonic.html) Shocking, isn’t it?
Further, IF it WERE true (and it still IS NOT TRUE), then it would also be entirely consistent with my ‘sustained turn’ F-35A vs F-16A posts. Remember the series (presuming you bothered to read them— it’s looking ‘iffy’ to say the least) conclusion? I explicitly stated:
“Depending on amount of fuel carried by each aircraft, the F-35A is capable of sustained turn performance on a par with the F-16A. Assuming the F-16A is still the ‘best’ in a sustained turn that there’s ever been at 15K feet and M.8, then that means the F-35A is capable of holding its own against all comers in a sustained turn when flown properly in competent hands.”
SO while I use knowledge and experience to provide qualified statements that are laid out within a framework of data and analysis using acknowledged ground rules and assumptions and recognized limitations, YOU still just keep making unsupported and over-generalized assertions that you can’t back up with hard facts. Your ignorance and inexperience allows you to make hasty-generalizations, and apparently your over-developed sense of self-worth compels you to share with others.
Don’t pretend to know what the test report ‘means’. Without the education, training and flight-test experience, it’s not surprising most observers generally can’t Grok what they see out of proper context. experts may debate nuances. But any non-expert outsider that would attach a meaning to what they read that is different from the meaning that those who know better (me, LM, JPO, fill-in-the-blank), and then insist their understanding is better than the experts are laughable and easily dismissed. You appear to be a prime example of the archetype.
I took the time to fully address your silly lashing out and incorporate your comment into mine because yours is going to disappear. All your future comments will disappear, and I’ll whip up a copy-paste tombstone for them to put in any thread with info WHY they disappear-- pointing to past threads like this one so you can’t play the 'victim'.
Yes, I've got better things to spend my time doing than explaining why that marmot you're pointing at isn't a bear.
Jul 4, 2015, 1:15:04 AM
Posted to David Axe is More Boring Than Ever (Bless His Heart)