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"Obama Won't Defend DOMA"

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Anonymous Anonymous said...

"DOMA is simply anti-gay bigotry encoded in law."

no, it isn't

"this law is simply an embarrassment to our country at this point."

no, it isn't

"Today our President did something Presidential."

yes, he did

he told Muommar Gadaffi that violence against his won people is unacceptable

hopefully, he will follow through when Gadaffi continues and destroy the Libyan aircraft that are engaged in this crime against humanity

"He announced that DOMA is unconstitutional and the administration is not going to defend it any more."

actually, Obama hasn't been appointed to the Supreme Court and doesn't understand his role:

Congress passes laws

Obama enforces laws

Supreme Court decides if the laws are constitutional

ignoring the legislature is what dictators do

February 24, 2011 6:07 AM

Anonymous Aunt Bea said...

Yay Obama!! Let freedom ring for every American citizen!

As an American, I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America, and to the republic for which it stands, one nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all.

How about you Anon?

I hope someday you'll join us to support "liberty and justice for all!"

February 24, 2011 7:17 AM

Anonymous Anonymous said...

we already had liberty, justice and freedom before Obama announced that he would ignore yesterday that he would refuse to enforce Federal law

gay relationships aren't marriage

nothing unjust about that

it's just the facts

February 24, 2011 7:33 AM

Anonymous Aunt Bea said...

gay relationships aren't marriage

That's your personal opinion probably based on your religious beliefs. This is America, we are all free to have our own religious beliefs.

we already had liberty, justice and freedom before Obama announced that he would ... refuse to enforce Federal law

"We" who -- heterosexuals?

America used to have laws that denied blacks and whites the right to marry each other. Fortunately we have had elected officials and judges smart enough to realize that such limits on adult citizens' right to choose who they will marry are unconstitutional. Former Constitutional law professor and current US President Obama reached the same conclusion as so many other judges, legislators, and citizens have, that limiting gays' right to marry is as unconstitutional as those anti-miscegenation laws were.

We did not have "liberty, justice and freedom for all" when DOMA was being enforced and defended because DOMA denies gay people their Constitutional right to "liberty, justice and freedom" and to equal protection under the law just like we did not have "liberty, justice and freedom for all" under anti-miscegenation laws before Loving v. Virginia was decided by the Supreme Court. Unequal protection under the law is injustice. Adults being denied the legal right to marry the person they choose is not liberty or justice or freedom; it is discrimination and unconstitutional.

February 24, 2011 8:40 AM

Anonymous Anonymous said...

"Former Constitutional law professor"

did he ever teach?

"and current US President Obama"

yes, he is President

he applied for the job of chief law enforcer in America and the American people hired him in good faith

he has now chosen to discriminate which laws he will enforce, based on his bias

he will be impeached if he axts on his words

"reached the same conclusion as so many other judges, legislators, and citizens have, that limiting gays' right to marry is unconstitutional"

gee, had he just gotten around to thinking it over

face it, he's making a political judgement, nothing else

I assume that since future President Palin doesn't think Obamacare is constitutional, she'll be able to choose to ignore it

"We did not have "liberty, justice and freedom for all" when DOMA was being enforced and defended because DOMA denies gay people their Constitutional right to "liberty, justice and freedom" and to equal protection under the law"

DOMA doesn't deny anyone liberty, justice or freedom

DOMA doesn't deny anyone protection under the law

you're out of your mind

"Adults being denied the legal right to marry the person they choose is not liberty or justice or freedom; it is discrimination and unconstitutional"

that's not true

anyone can choose to marry anyone of the opposite gender they want

that's what marriage is and it has been that way under all societies and religions so it's not an idiosyncratic definition

February 24, 2011 1:44 PM

Blogger BlackTsunami said...

sorry anonymous, but United States Court of Appeals for the Ninth Circuit Judge Stephen Reinhardt declared DOMA unconstitutional IN 2009 so your argument are moot.

The Obama Administration simply said they cannot defend article 3 of DOMA anymore. but if the religious right wants to, maybe they can defend it in court as vigorously as they defended Prop 8 in court.

Oh wait. They didn't. The witness stand is indeed a lonely place to lie.

February 24, 2011 9:14 PM

Anonymous Aunt Bea said...

Anon asked..."Former Constitutional law professor"

did he ever teach?


President Obama taught constitutional law for twelve years, from 1992-2004, at the University of Chicago Law School where notable conservatives like Robert Bork, John Ashcroft, and Liz Cheney studied. Thanks for this clear demonstration of your ignorance about President Obama's life. You probably think he's not an American citizen either, don't you?

Maybe you should listen to Karl Rove: "Within our party, we've got to be very careful about allowing these people who are the birthers and the 9/11-deniers to get too high a profile and say too much without setting the record straight," Rove said.

Rove compared the birther movement to the John Birch Society, the group that William F. Buckley and other mainstream conservatives shunned in the 1960's for its far-right views. The group's founder Robert Welch, for instance, called President Dwight D. Eisenhower a "conscious, dedicated agent of the communist conspiracy."

Rove said that today's Republican leaders should say, "we've got better things to talk about," and then the issue will go away.


he has now chosen to discriminate which laws he will enforce, based on his bias

You are a regular laugh riot. You've got your knickers in a twist over Obama's decision about a single law, DOMA, but you were oddly silent when President Bush issued more than 750 signing statements to modify hundreds of statutes passed by Congress.

President Obama has not modified the statute and has said DOMA will still be enforced. I repeat, Obama said DOMA will still be enforced, but lawsuits against its constitutionality will no longer be defended by the DOJ, saving taxpayers lots of money. If Congress wishes to defend its unconstitutional DOMA statute in court, it is free to do so.

President Palin

Oh thanks for another laugh! Palin can get herself carved on Mount Rushmore right next to President Huckabee!

February 25, 2011 8:30 AM

Anonymous Aunt Bea said...

Here's one you might like Anon.

Town hall question: "Who's going to shoot Obama?"

Here's the latest evidence that nothing has changed in post-Tucson America: A person at a Tuesday town hall with Rep. Paul Broun, R-Ga., got up and asked, "Who is going to shoot President Obama?"

The exact wording of the question is not clear because, the Athens Banner-Herald reports, there was a lot of noise at the event. Perhaps more significant than the question was the response of the crowd and Broun, who is a member of the Tea Party Caucus and one of the most right-wing members of Congress.

The question prompted a "big laugh" from the crowd, in Oglethorpe County, Ga., according to the Banner-Herald. Broun, for his part, did not object to the question. He said in response:

"The thing is, I know there’s a lot of frustration with this president. We're going to have an election next year. Hopefully, we'll elect somebody that’s going to be a conservative, limited-government president that will take a smaller, who will sign a bill to repeal and replace Obamacare."

Whoever asked that question will probably be hearing from the Secret Service shortly.

It's also worth noting Broun's own history of inflammatory rhetoric. In November 2008 he warned that Obama may try to impose either a Marxist or a Nazi dictatorship on the country. He has also, for example, addressed the John Birch Society.


So much for ratcheting down the inflammatory rhetoric.

February 25, 2011 8:53 AM

Anonymous Anonymous said...

"Thanks for this clear demonstration of your ignorance about President Obama's life."

no problem

yeah, I haven't read his books

heard they're almost as good as the book "How to Quarterback in the NFL", written by Joe Theisman when he was third string behind Sonny and Billy

"You probably think he's not an American citizen either, don't you?"

I've got an open mind about it

"Maybe you should listen to Karl Rove"

you kind of drive your own roller coaster, don't you?

remember to hold on to your loose marbles

"You are a regular laugh riot."

you think it's funny that we have a President thinks he can ignore any law he decides is unconstitutional

he'll be replaced soon

"I repeat, Obama said DOMA will still be enforced, but lawsuits against its constitutionality will no longer be defended by the DOJ, saving taxpayers lots of money."

that should about as well as all his other policies

"Oh thanks for another laugh! Palin can get herself carved on Mount Rushmore right next to President Huckabee!"

I don't think the current polls showing Huckabee in a dead heat with Obama for the presidency in 2012 are getting a lot of laughs in the White House

February 25, 2011 10:55 PM

Anonymous Anonymous said...

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2012/president/us/general_election_huckabee_vs_obama-1170.html

The poll results the WH finds funny are the double digit leads Obama has over Huckabee. I'm sure the WH is loving the current average that shows Obama 5.5 points ahead of Mike Huckabee.

The Palin v. Obama polls are even funnier!

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2012/president/us/general_election_palin_vs_obama-1169.html

All of them show Obama with double digit leads over Palin, and the average shows Obama 15.2 points ahead of her.

February 26, 2011 9:37 AM

Anonymous Anonymous said...

Ho ho ho!

Fox has Palin down by 21 points compared to Obama.

http://www.foxnews.com/projects/pdf/021111_2012_election_web.pdf

President Palin, what a pipe dream!

February 26, 2011 9:42 AM

Anonymous Anonymous said...

Gay marriage is not the automatic winner for the right that it was as recently as the 1990s when Bill Clinton signed the Defense of Marriage Act, which defines marriage as a legal union between one man and one woman.

Even among evangelicals and other conservatives, opposition is eroding, especially among a younger generation that doesn't see anything all that wrong with gay and lesbian couples.

The numbers certainly give Huckabee and his fellow opponents of gay marriage reason to worry.

Surveys in the last year show that for the first time more Americans are accepting than disapproving of "homosexual relations" (52-43 percent in a Gallup poll). Both Gallup and Pew Forum surveys last fall showed the gap is narrowing between those who disapprove of gay marriage itself and those who accept, suggesting acceptance will soon win out.

White evangelicals who form the core of the Republican right (and the tea party movement) remain the most opposed to gay marriage. However, even that opposition is easing, and it is significantly weaker among younger Christians, as Huckabee lamented. Not even a majority (just 48 percent) of white evangelicals said they opposed gays serving openly in the military, in a poll taken just before Congress voted to repeal the "Don't ask, Don't tell" (DADT) law last December. Even most Republicans under age 45 said same-sex couples should have the same benefits as opposite-sex couples, according to an Associated Press-National Constitution Center poll last summer.

As authors Robert Putnam and David Campbell write in their sweeping new study of faith in the United States, "American Grace," given these trends "homosexuality will become less attractive as a wedge issue in politics and will likely cease to be a potent issue at all." If anything, homosexuality is becoming a dividing line within the Republican Party rather than between Republicans and Democrats, as shown by the boycott of the annual Conservative Political Action Conference by some groups of social conservatives (and not others) over the presence of the conservative gay organization, GOProud.

Mike Huckabee, a possible 2012 presidential candidate who is far and away the front runner among Republican voters when it comes to social issues and moral values, this week conceded that reality. The former Baptist pastor noted that younger evangelicals have shown an "alarming" trend toward acceptance of homosexual relationships that could complicate political prospects for a candidate like himself who sees gay marriage as a moral threat on par with abortion.

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Proposals to deny citizenship to what immigration hardliners call "anchor babies" born in the U.S. to illegal immigrant parents are unpopular with the public. Fifty-seven percent oppose changing the Constitution's 14th amendment that grants automatic citizenship to anyone born on American soil. Thirty-nine percent favor changing the amendment and 4 percent are undecided.

Republicans are roughly split on the issue with 49 percent saying the amendment should be left as it is and 47 percent favoring a change to the Constitution. Democrats want to leave the amendment as it is by a 66 percent to 32 percent margin and independents agree by 56 percent to 39 percent. Those sympathizing with the tea party movement favor a change to the Constitution to eliminate the automatic birthright by 57 percent to 39 percent.

February 26, 2011 10:22 AM

Anonymous a new coat of shellack said...

"The poll results the WH finds funny are the double digit leads Obama has over Huckabee. I'm sure the WH is loving the current average that shows Obama 5.5 points ahead of Mike Huckabee."

"current average"?

the LATEST poll is by Newsweek

came out Tuesday

Huckabee ties Obama

Romney is two points down

I'm sure neither is a source of comfort for the White House, especially considering neither has even announced that he's running

sure, Palin is down 11 but that's not the whole story

she is well known and shown formidable political skills despite having to stare down the establishment on both sides

yes, Barry was laughing when he walked up the driveway to 1600 Pennsylvania in January 2009

after all, he had just pulled a fast one on the American people

but he looked pretty grim after the movement Palin founded and the candidates she supported gave him the shellacking of his life last fall

Obama has only sunk in the public eye since

he turned in a joke of a budget

and has performed dismally in the Middle East

while other leaders have called on Gadaffi to step down, Obama hasn't even mentioned him by name

his big display of decisiveness is to send Hillary to Europe to consult

meanwhile, Libyan ambassadors worldwide beg us to intervene and their military leaders defect

our help could easily tip the scales and end a lot of suffering quickly

and Obama does nothing

"The Palin v. Obama polls are even funnier!"

when Palin begins to take apart Obama's record in public debate, you won't hear any chuckling from across from Lafayette Square

it'll be a new coat of shellack!!!!

February 26, 2011 6:07 PM

Anonymous Anonymous said...

I predict your new coat of shellac prediction will become just as true as your President Huckabee prediction did.

February 27, 2011 10:27 AM

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