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"Faith and Science"

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Anonymous Anonymous said...

Andrea- not anon
Off topic- kind of like everything the anons post here. I was thinking about that moron Adol Owen- williams and his Heil Hitler remark. I had two thoughts- one is that if the Republican party had any viability in Montgomery County- his remarks would have been denounced and he would not be head of the MC republican Men's club now. However, as Republicans are a non-entity in county elections- Dems aren't bringing it up and the Republicans are ignoring it or making excuses(not apologies)-they can't win anyway. OR Adol Owen-Williams is still angry over his treatment by Steve(NOW I AM A DEM-not)Abrams and the county Republican party. They didn't back him up after Steve assaulted him verbally and physically and so Adol said something usually guaranteed to bring out calls of disgust and anger. He is hoping this will be used against whatever losers the Republicans put up next time.
By the way in my websearch on this-I may have come across who one of the N. anons is- like our N. anon, this guy - Neal from Anne Arundel- was excusing the Hitler remark and pimping for the CRC on a Maryland political blog. He said something like "Your readers could do worse than check out the CRC website". I don't know- it would be hard to check out something worse than the CRC website- maybe Stormfront or the Phelps family blog?

November 25, 2007 12:25 PM

Anonymous Anonymous said...

Andrea- not anon
Sorry, the guy wasn't named Neal - it was Mike. I may read his blog- although I might also decide to eat fire, walk on coals or watch football- none likely to happen. I don't want to point fingers at a non-existent guy- although there may well be a guy named Neal in Anne Arundel.

November 25, 2007 3:43 PM

Anonymous Anonymous said...

On topic:

This is one of the most interesting pieces I have ever read on faith and science. It expresses very clearly a juxtaposition which I have sensed, but never explicated.

My own theology is not the same as Jim's. But he sets forth a very useful, humane, and, in my view, Godly, framework for understanding what we think and why we think it.

November 27, 2007 5:01 AM

Blogger JimK said...

Thank you for that comment, David. Sometimes, especially Sunday mornings, I write things here that are pure self-indulgence, expecting to have something juicier for readers by Monday morning, when everybody gets to the office and can settle down to some reading. I am often surprised when anyone actually reads these pieces, and so I thank you for reading it, getting it, and commenting on it.

JimK

November 27, 2007 7:07 AM

Anonymous Anonymous said...

"My own theology is not the same as Jim's."

What is yours, David?

November 27, 2007 9:33 AM

Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anon,

I tried posting this earlier, but there were some web problems.

When you choose to identify yourself, I will be happy to engage in theological discourse with you.

In the meantime, I will simply say that I believe that there is a God and that the lodestar for my approach is found in Micah 6:8 --"What doth the Lord require of thee: Only to do justly, and to love mercy, and to walk humbly with thy God."

I do not pretend to know the precise nature of God; I suspect that that is beyond our ability to fully understand. It is that humility that, for me, is the meaning of the phrase "to walk humbly with thy God." I operate on the assumption that God wants us to "do justly and love mercy."

To act otherwise would seem to me to be "ungodly."

November 28, 2007 12:22 PM

Anonymous Anonymous said...

"When you choose to identify yourself, I will be happy to engage in theological discourse with you."

Great. That way I can comment and don't have to worry about any argument out of you.

"In the meantime, I will simply say that I believe that there is a God and that the lodestar for my approach is found in Micah 6:8 --"What doth the Lord require of thee: Only to do justly, and to love mercy, and to walk humbly with thy God."

I do not pretend to know the precise nature of God; I suspect that that is beyond our ability to fully understand. It is that humility that, for me, is the meaning of the phrase "to walk humbly with thy God." I operate on the assumption that God wants us to "do justly and love mercy."

To act otherwise would seem to me to be "ungodly.""

Great verse, David, but I think you misinterpret the phrase, "walk humbly." God has revealed things about himself in scripture and in creation so acknowledging his voice doesn't display an absence of humility. More humble to rely on God's word and realize that you may not perfectly understand his purposes.

Now, remember, no arguments from you.

November 28, 2007 1:35 PM

Blogger Priya Lynn said...

Anonymous, that you're so thrilled about the prospect of not being argued against acknowledges your awareness of the utter weakness of your arguments.

November 28, 2007 2:29 PM

Anonymous Anonymous said...

Brilliant, Randi.

I was joking with David. Your humorlessness is a little sad.

November 28, 2007 4:54 PM

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November 28, 2007 5:33 PM

Blogger Priya Lynn said...

Anonymous said "I was joking with David.".

Yeah, sure you were... Your transparent excuses are as weak as the arguments you're so thrilled to have unopposed.

November 28, 2007 5:36 PM

Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anon,

You are free to interpret the passage any way you like, as am I. Since I am not a scriptual literalist -- that is, I do not see scripture as the absolute word of God -- I am comfortable understanding the wisdom of scripture in ways that make sense in light of centuries of human experience.

Ultimately, theological views are matters of faith. We are all entitled to our own faith.

I believe that the Golden Rule is the operative guidance to live a godly life. You are free to have a different view. This is America, thank goodness.

November 28, 2007 7:53 PM

Anonymous Anonymous said...

"You are free to interpret the passage any way you like, as am I."

Well, if you mean legally, yes. Still, I assume you'd like to know truth too.

I, myself, always am interested in what other people think and considering whether they may have some insight I've missed. Maybe I'm an exception, but it really doesn't bother me that others disagree with me.

"Since I am not a scriptual literalist -- that is, I do not see scripture as the absolute word of God"

Being a scriptural literalist and believing scripture is the absolute word of God are not the same, David.

November 29, 2007 12:12 AM

Anonymous Anonymous said...

Hey, David, did you watch the debate last night? Some you-tuber asked the candidates if they believed literally in the Bible. The next president, Mike Huckabee, gave the best answer.

November 29, 2007 7:53 PM

Blogger David S. Fishback said...

Well, Anon, that is where we differ. Not only did Giuliani (in my view) provide the best answer, but he provided a very good answer. There isn't, however, much else about the former Mayor that I like.

November 29, 2007 10:58 PM

Anonymous Anonymous said...

I agree with you that Giuiani had a good response. Not that I have the same view, I just think he gave an honest answer. Say what you will about him, he sticks with his convictions and doesn't try to create false impressions.

I'm thinking the Huckabee-McCain ticket will smash Clinton-Obama in the general election.

Did you know that Americans always favor the war candidate even when they don't like the war? Find an example in history where it isn't true. Right now, although Democrats strongly detest the Iraq war, they solidly support Clinton, who voted for it, vs Obama who has opposed it from the beginning.

Woe to Democrats in the general election if they face a ticket with either McCain or Giuliani.

It'll be McGovern-Nixon deja vu!

November 30, 2007 12:47 AM

Blogger Adol Owen-Williams, II said...

I can't help but notice that when some of you so called "blogers" choose to post an insulting or derogatory comment about someone you've never met, you conveniently choose to do so anonymously; that is the true sign of a thoroughbred pusillanimous coward! Might I suggest that you 20, 30, and 40 something year olds stop behaving like a bunch of preteen social retards. Stop prancing around all day in your underware in you mom's basement attacking complete strangers from a secret and safe distance via the PC you use the remainder of the day to watch porn when you are not anonymously insulting complete strangers. Why not go out into the real world and get a life?!

July 28, 2008 5:33 PM

Blogger JimK said...

Adol, I know how you feel, and I just thank my lucky stars no anonymous cowards ever say anything negative about me on the Internet!

JimK

July 28, 2008 6:29 PM

Anonymous Anonymous said...

Andrea- not anon
The only anon who posts here supported you- he may be the only vote you get if you ever run for anything.

I read in more than one news outlet about what you said and you should be ashamed. Further, someone who is supposedly an adult and thinks he deserves to be an elected official should know better than to use the word "retard". I have a very responsible position, have never watched porn and do not live in anyone's basement- can the same be said for you since this is your projection?
I do not need to know you to find your actions then and your use of the word "retard" now reprehensible and beneath contempt.

July 28, 2008 9:05 PM

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