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"Nudity There and Here"

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Anonymous Anonymous said...

The puritanical roots contribute to different perspectives on substance use, abuse, and treatment as well. Europe is more likely to study and support evidence-based use of harm reduction, where here it is nearly treated as aiding and abetting criminality.

April 19, 2007 4:07 PM

Anonymous Anonymous said...

I think Americans imagine nude beaches to be full of buff bodies. After my first experience of a nude/topless beach full of really, really flabby Europeans- I had a different reason for not liking nude beaches.

Andrea
something is still wrong with my account

April 19, 2007 4:46 PM

Blogger JimK said...

Andrea, two things. First, the fact that you don't have to be beautiful to go to a nude beach might take some of the glamour out of it, but it also means that people like me can go. You don't have to be twenty-two, a hundred twenty pounds of sleek muscle, to enjoy the sun and the water.

Second thing. When Blogger "upgraded" to the new system, I had to set up a new account, as I recall, and you might need to, too. I log in with my email address now. See if you can figure out how to do that -- I remember it was a pain, and actually I still can't post from Internet Explorer because it has my old cookies or something. But that's probably the nexus of your problem logging in.

JimK

April 19, 2007 5:10 PM

Anonymous Anonymous said...

Okay, I stumbled onto a nude beach in NJ by accident.

A bunch of old guys with lots of flab who had NO business walking around with their clothes off.

GROSS !

April 19, 2007 6:29 PM

Blogger JimK said...

Don't forget, Anon, you were not invisible either.

(Though I must add, I had that experience once. I was camping on a beach near Santa Barbara, not realizing it was a nude beach, and a young couple came down and tossed their towels on the ground and stripped naked. They were very attractive... I guess I didn't have that experience, sorry.)

JimK

April 19, 2007 7:00 PM

Blogger andrea said...

Thanks, Jim, it worked

April 19, 2007 8:30 PM

Blogger Unknown said...

I am still enthusiastic about a boo that I read a little while ago: Only in Holland. Only the Dutch, by Mark Resch.
Why are so many respondents here, concerned about how others LOOK? (Particularly without clothes on.)
You've already written it, in another way: Are only slim, good-looking people, adult but no older than 30 allowed to be in the presence of these people?
Relax and enjoy the feeling of sun, air and or cool water all over your body. (You don't shower with your bathing costumes on. I KNOW that's been said before.)
Met vriendelijke groeten, uit Sydney, Australië.

April 19, 2007 8:34 PM

Anonymous Anonymous said...

Are we that sure that our country was really founded by a bunch of "prudish" or "puritanical" folks? Google Larry Kramer, gay, Jamestown" and read about his assertion that Jamestown was originally populated only by men, that they held "commitment ceremonies," and that they adopted children from the Native Americans. His argument, not mine, but think about how this could turn history on hits head if true.

April 19, 2007 9:36 PM

Anonymous Anonymous said...

Maybe this will clear things up. Or maybe not.

Genesis 2 Adam was created from mud, and Eve was created from one of Adam's ribs. Both had remained naked in the Garden of Eden. Genesis 2:25 states: "And they were both naked, the man and his wife, and were not ashamed." (KJV).

Genesis 3:7: "Then the eyes of both [Adam and Eve] were opened and they realized that they were naked; so they sewed fig leaves together and made coverings for themselves." (NIV)


http://www.religioustolerance.org/nu_bibl.htm

April 20, 2007 7:11 AM

Blogger Orin Ryssman said...

Anonymous writes,

Are we that sure that our country was really founded by a bunch of "prudish" or "puritanical" folks? Google Larry Kramer, gay, Jamestown" and read about his assertion that Jamestown was originally populated only by men, that they held "commitment ceremonies," and that they adopted children from the Native Americans. His argument, not mine, but think about how this could turn history on hits head if true.

I saw that letter of Kramer's the other day (I think it was in the New Yorker) and I burst out laughing. Then I smiled and thought to myself, "more of Larry Kramer's projectionist fantasies".

April 20, 2007 11:28 AM

Anonymous Anonymous said...

Does Allen Chambers' fantasy that "Exodus affirms reorientation of same sex attraction is possible" even though "Exodus International is not a clinical facility," tickle your funny bone too?

April 20, 2007 1:50 PM

Blogger Orin Ryssman said...

Anonymous writes,

Does Allen Chambers' fantasy that "Exodus affirms reorientation of same sex attraction is possible" even though "Exodus International is not a clinical facility," tickle your funny bone too?

Interesting question...I guess it depends. The way I understand human sexuality (and please correct me if I am wrong) is that it is a continuum, with total heterosexuality on one end and complete homosexuality on the other end. And in the middle, or tending towards either side are gray areas, right? Is it possible for someone that is on the homosexual side, but not totally homosexual to re-orient if they so desired? I think it is possible (though probably not easy, given the way we humans tend to habituate and resist change) and that it is cruel to take that hope away.

April 21, 2007 4:06 AM

Anonymous Anonymous said...

holding out hope for change is whats cruel.i spent 9 years in a bunch of different ministries.i tried with all my heart and soul to change from gay to straight.they told me if i prayed enough, practiced techniques enough, and had faith in jesus christ as my savior enough i would become heterosexual.

nothing they told me to do changed my innate desire.the only thing that changed for me was the feeling of hopelessness.my despair was huge because i failed to change session after session year after year.the shame of failure became more and more overwhelming the harder i tried to change.i finally found peace when i accepted that god loves me the way he made me.

April 23, 2007 1:53 PM

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