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"Condoms: The Research Must Be Wrong"

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Blogger Dana Beyer, M.D. said...

Coburn's medical license should be revoked. (There's also the issue of forced sterilizations for the medical board to consider as well.)

November 12, 2005 1:57 PM

Blogger andrea said...

Frist and Coburn!

November 12, 2005 3:32 PM

Blogger Kristen said...

FYI, there already are warnings on condoms. For example:

"TROJAN Brand Latex Condoms, when used properly, are highly effective against pregnancy--although no contraceptive can guarantee 100% effectiveness...TROJAN Brand Latex Condoms, when used properly, may help reduce the risk of catching or spreading many Sexually Transmitted Diseases ("STDs") such as syphilis, gonorrhea, chlamydia infections, genital herpes, and AIDS; however, they cannot eliminate the risk..." (italics mine.)

That's right on the back of the package.
So when Coburn says that "the agency has put the public at risk by providing inaccurate information about condoms," sounds like he was the one doing misleading.

November 13, 2005 12:43 PM

Blogger JimK said...

Kristen, you do recognize that this Trojan quote is the very weakest evidence you could possibly provide for the point of view that condoms are ineffective ... right?

Look, go over and read what CDC and NIH say about it, then come back and we'll talk.

jimK

November 13, 2005 5:58 PM

Anonymous Anonymous said...

Yeah, Kristen, I couldn't agree more with you saying Tom Coburn was misleading. Not only that, but because of the law he sponsored, thousands of our federal tax dollars were wasted proving what we already knew -- that properly used condoms make sex safer than when you don't use them properly or at all.

The manufacturer already had a warning label on the package. Coburn's law-sponsored findings have confirmed this Trojan label is correct.

The label was accurate. Coburn was wrong. No big surprise there.

Aunt Bea

November 13, 2005 8:16 PM

Blogger Kristen said...

Not sure what you're getting at, Jim. I'm on your side with this. My argument is that the condoms WERE correctly labelled in the first place, and didn't give any false or misleading information. Ergo, Coburn's claim was not only incorrect, it was a waste of time.

November 15, 2005 1:06 PM

Blogger JimK said...

Uh, OK, I guess I read you wrong, sorry. The difference is, I think, these guys want to put FDA "government warnings" on all condoms, rather than let the companies tell you themselves what their limitations are. Which aren't much, as the weakly-worded "warning" that you quoted implies.

I read your comment opposite of what you meant... thinking it was some kind of satire or something. Ya hang around a place like this, ya get jumpy, y'know?

JimK

November 15, 2005 1:12 PM

Blogger Kristen said...

Hey, no problem. I guess I was under the assumption that the warning I quoted WAS government-mandated. But I guess it's just the condom companies protecting their own skins. Pun intended. ;)

November 15, 2005 2:33 PM

Anonymous Anonymous said...

Yeah, watch out for him. He gets real jumpy if you start talkin' about "facts."

November 15, 2005 4:11 PM

Blogger JimK said...

Hey Anon, I misinterpreted something somebody said. Pretty bad, huh?

It so happens, and maybe Kristen doesn't even know this, that the CRC loves to quote those labels on condom packages. Like, look at THIS DOCUMENT from their web site -- a whole page of 'em. I pavlovianly (!) misread her comment to have been written in that tradition.

JimK

November 15, 2005 4:21 PM

Anonymous Anonymous said...

Sorry, Jim. Got carried away.

I was actually impressed with the tone of your post today. No calling anybody names.

I do think the thing where you occasionally post pictures of people you think are strange-looking is inappropriate.

November 16, 2005 11:24 AM

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