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"UPDATED: More amazing adventures of Men with Gold Chains"

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Anonymous Alan M. Dershowitz said...

"Who are these people?"

To even ask such a question leads inescapably to the Holocaust.

3/27/08, 2:46 PM

Anonymous Anonymous said...

"Since then, the company has provided ammunition that is more than 40 years old and in decomposing packaging, according to an examination of the munitions by The New York Times and interviews with American and Afghan officials. Much of the ammunition comes from the aging stockpiles of the old Communist bloc, including stockpiles that the State Department and NATO have determined to be unreliable and obsolete, and have spent millions of dollars to have destroyed."



Its astonishing that we bought ammo that is 40 years old. That wouldn't even be near reliable.



Does this kid (22!) "know" somebody high up? This is terrible, I'd expect Al-Qaeda to have better munitions.

3/27/08, 3:11 PM

Anonymous Anonymous said...

What is this guy's ethnicity? Hispanic of some kind? Efraim is common hispanic name.

3/27/08, 3:15 PM

Anonymous Anonymous said...

The Men with Gold Chains are not particularly interesting Steve. Just more scam artists.

Today Wilders released "Fitna" on the internet (Liveleak.com) and it's incendiary. AQ will have to respond, of course. The film itself is devastating. Because instead of fairly trivial men with gold chains (who only seek to cheat people), it features Muslims who seek to kill and dominate. And to a shocking degree, already have in Europe.

There will always be Men with Gold Chains. Sharia in the Netherlands? Or Minnesota for that matter? That is something entirely different.

Funny how things move. It's quite likely an obscure film on the Internet (it's quite explosive btw in it's effectiveness) could be the equivalent of some inept assassin in Belgrade.

3/27/08, 3:46 PM

Anonymous Anonymous said...

Efraim is common hispanic name.

Maybe in a Sephardic ghetto.

3/27/08, 4:23 PM

Anonymous Geronimo McTavish said...

Our own dear British govt has tried to stab our soldiers in the back by purchasing Soviet 12.7mm ammunition to use in the M2 .50 cal machine gun.

The consequence is that the guns jam frequently, 12.7mm is very similar to .cal - but not quite the same.

But not to worry at least the 12.7mm ammo is much cheaper.

The obvious solution would be to go all the way and buy the 12.7mm machine gun. But we wont do that because they are standard in the US military and NATO generally, hence we reap the logistical advantages of common guns, spares and......ammunition!

3/27/08, 4:26 PM

Anonymous Anonymous said...

I shoot guns every so often. That ammo in the picture is 7.62x54mm rifle ammunition. I have thousands of rounds of the copper colored ammo shown in the NYT picture. Some of it was manufactured in the early 70's and shoots just fine. It doesn't go bad--IF it is stored properly. I store my stuff in airtight, moisture controlled ammo cans. The copper colored ammo looks fine. The communist bloc 7.62x54 ammo comes sealed in metal tins. The mere fact that it is old doesn't mean much. I've shot the same ammo from the USSR that was made in the 1940's, and it shot fine. You just need to properly clean out your rifle after shooting it because the ammo can cause rust. It's usually understood to be corrosive.

The golden-brass colored ammo is corroded. I wouldn't let that garbage near me. That's what I'm assuming is Chinese made. Deals involving Chinese military hardware as far as I know, are shady dealings. That's something to look into.

3/27/08, 4:31 PM

Anonymous anony-mouse said...

1/ I went through the article and the other link. Sorry, no gold chains.

2/ If the Pentagon has a zero inspection policy and seemingly an unenforced qualification system, bad bullets for Afghans would be the least of their worries.

3/ 'does this kid know somebody higher up?'. Could be. But don't attribute to venality that which can be equally explained by utter incompetence.

3/27/08, 4:34 PM

Anonymous Anonymous said...

The guy is probably (99% sure) a Jew.

3/27/08, 4:38 PM

Anonymous manindarkhat said...

Who are these people?

Better not say. I can tell you what they are, though: vibrant.

3/27/08, 5:01 PM

Anonymous RKU said...

What is this guy's ethnicity? Hispanic of some kind? Efraim is common hispanic name.

Well the young crook's uncle and mentor is named "Bar-Kochba", which seems pretty distinctive. Perhaps it's common in Guatemala or maybe Peru...

3/27/08, 5:22 PM

Anonymous Anonymous said...

Is the David M. Packouz kid related to Rabbi Kalman Packouz? The Rabbi is listed as now living in Miami and having nine kids. He wrote a book, "How to Stop an Intermarriage."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kalman_Packouz

3/27/08, 5:39 PM

Anonymous Anonymous said...

David Packouz wants to go into the music business...just like Ashley Dupre, Spitzer's prostitute. Here is Packouz's myspace

http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofile&friendid=324604849

3/27/08, 5:45 PM

Anonymous Anonymous said...

He is likely of Italian Jewish origin.
Diveroli = Di Veroli

"Di Veroli is one of approximately 105 vendors, all of whom are licensed to sell souvenirs at stands in front of Rome’s most important monuments - and all of whom, except for one, are Jewish.

Other ambulant vendors, like Di Porto, carry trays of trinkets but are not licensed to set up stalls. All of these vendors, too, except for one, are Jewish."

http://www.theflorentine.net/articles/article-view.asp?issuetocId=995

3/27/08, 6:21 PM

Blogger Zimri said...

Oy, scandal for the goyim...

I do want to know from which archaeological dig he got this ammo and who else was involved. I can't believe a 23 year old managed this con alone.

And he's gonna get a book deal and a bigshot Hollywood movie, mark me.

3/27/08, 6:38 PM

Anonymous beowulf said...

Come on guys, is this hard? Someone who doesn't want his name on a government contract (foreign citizen, convicted felon, current government official) set this guy up to run a front company.

Read this kid's myspace page, he couldn't organize a mixer with the Tri Delt without adult supervision.

He's not the one who made the big money, he's just the sucker who gets his picture in the New York Times while the brains of the outfit are making quick travel plans to non-extraditing countries.

3/27/08, 8:05 PM

Anonymous The Fixer said...

Seems like people have been hanged for less.

3/27/08, 9:07 PM

Anonymous Anonymous said...

Well, at least his family is socially conservative.

Avigail Diveroli (who I assume is family), writes, "When a woman dresses modestly, her entire mindset is different. A girl who dresses in a modest way is less likely to act promiscuously and inappropriately. When a woman dresses in a way that leaves nothing to the imagination, she is inviting chauvinistic slurs and whistles. When a woman chooses to wear a tube top instead of a nice T-shirt, she is also, perhaps unknowingly, sacrificing her dignity."

http://nieonline.com/miami/teenspeaks/articles.cfm?id=4&themonth=nov

Efriam is possibly the nephew of Michael Jackson's rabbi, who was involved in charity fraud.

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,49808,00.html

3/27/08, 9:43 PM

Anonymous Anonymous said...

Spelling the last names differently is an advantage because it prevents others from doing thorough background checks on the players. If Mr Botach has a criminal conviction, then just switch to using Mr Boteach. No problems.

Also, one of the most disturbing aspects to the immigration process is that the US government allows someone to change their name when they are granted US Citizenship, according to former INS agent Michael Cutler. So someone with a criminal conviction in their home country can get a clean slate by changing their name.

3/27/08, 11:04 PM

Anonymous RKU said...

Ha, ha!!

The NY Times had several reporters working on this story probably for weeks, and they barely skimmed the surface.

Now Steve and a few of his friends have cracked the whole case WIDE OPEN in just 8 hours or so!

Score: NYT, 1; ISteve & Co., 14

This is even *better* than most of the recent Obama stuff!

3/27/08, 11:33 PM

Anonymous Anonymous said...

I believe I may have recently worked for cohorts of these clowns in Miami Beach. I am a management consultant and spent time working for prominent members of the Orthodox sect in Miami Beach. Generally speaking the men were devoid of traditional ethics but the women were kind and reasonable. It was a gender divide that I had never before experienced. I even had one individual, who was a Rabbi, tell me that it was okay for a Jew to trick a gentile. Evidently, this was the reason he felt comfortable in mistreating so many decent gentiles.

My other observation of the Miami Beach Orthodox group was the utter lack of talent they displayed. I am non-religious but a significant part of my heritage is reform Jew and they are a talented bunch. The Orthodox of Miami Beach were, generally speaking, anything but talented. Those with whom I interacted had big money but how they got it remains a semi mystery to me - for they knew not even the difference between a debit and a credit. The only thing I did notice was that they never let a nickel leave the sect.

To think that a young kid could land a $300mm deal would be hard to believe except for the knowledge that many in the Orthodox community would do anything for such a deal.

Maybe Arnon Milchan, the guy who owns the Regency production house, is behind the deal. He is an Israeli arms trader despite any denials.

3/28/08, 12:44 AM

Anonymous Anonymous said...

That's the first time I've seen anyone with "Bar-Kochba" as a first name. His namesake, Simon Bar-Kochba led a Jewish revolt against Rome in the second century, kicked the Roman occupiers out, and held off the Roman Empire for three years. The Romans had to bring troops in from as far away as Britain to put down the revolt, and they suffered tremendous casualties before finally crushing the revolt.

After that, the Romans were so fed up that they re-named the place "Palestine" after the Jews' old enemies, the Philistines.

- Fred

3/28/08, 1:15 AM

Anonymous braindead said...

This is great reading Steve. This is what journalism should be like all the time. Just imagine the impact that newspapers could have if they bothered to fulfil their self-appointed mission (all the news that's fit to print) instead of shilling for extreme causes.

I recall some Baptist pastor fawning about the "Kosher Sex" book. Just shows what suckers Baptists are about anything Jewish, as if that label carries God's automatic approvement with it. Sort of like the Holy Water thing.

BTW, we really need to have 2 pictures of you posted in your blog: one in underpants and another in your bathrobe. I would'nt go any further than that.

3/28/08, 1:46 AM

Anonymous Anonymous said...

I have a vague recollection of purchasing something from Botach Tactical many years ago.

3/28/08, 5:16 AM

Anonymous dearieme said...

"“And dogs,” she said.

“He’s got several vicious dogs on the premises." So probably not Muslim.

3/28/08, 5:44 AM

Anonymous Anonymous said...

Ha ha ha ha ha.

3/28/08, 7:49 AM

Blogger Michael said...

Brilliant posting, great detective work by all.

3/28/08, 8:47 AM

Anonymous Anonymous said...

Michael Diveroli was married to Ateret Diveroli, but appears to have divorced her according to this court document.


http://www.miami-dadeclerk.com/public-records/image.asp?page=51&cfn_master_id=15587723#image

3/28/08, 8:51 AM

Anonymous Anonymous said...

Efraim's middle name is Erza, information found from searching here:

http://www.miami-dadeclerk.com/civil/pubsearch.asp

3/28/08, 9:04 AM

Anonymous Anonymous said...

Rabbi Schmuley Boteach is a tv agony aunt rabbi to whom the word "controversial" has been attached both in the States and the UK.
He has an interesting business history. And is also a confidante of Michael Jackson.

Wonder if he is related to this lot.
http://www.shmuley.com/tvshow.php

3/28/08, 12:23 PM

Anonymous Anonymous said...

Luke Ford?
Isn't he that porno-guy?

3/29/08, 6:49 AM

Blogger American Goy said...

Bang up job, good show etc etc.

I also blogged about this, and was blown away that the media is showing only the tip of the iceberg, 10% (if that) of the story.

3/31/08, 12:17 AM

Anonymous Anonymous said...

You are guys are sick people!!!!!!
Why are you guys wasting your time trying to dig up information on Efraim (aey) and his family? Obviously it’s none of your dam business. Do you have nothing better to do then to find out his whole families history. Im sure if I looked up your life history it would be much more juicier and maybe it should make headlines. Do you guys find joy out of someone’s misery? Leave him alone. He is 22 years old and leave his family out of it. Please Search things that are useful.

3/31/08, 2:37 PM

Anonymous Anonymous said...

I'll just bet Efraim and his 'people' are strong supporters of Israel. I'll also bet that they are friends with folks at the IRS and as a result their books are never audited for tax evasion. Never.

I'd further bet that Alan Dershowitz is about to call me anti-Semetic. In such case I could only say Viva Hammas.

4/7/08, 8:25 AM

Anonymous Anonymous said...

What a great story you've discovered. Sometimes, reality is more unreal than fiction.
Funny how the Israeli connection keeps cropping up repeatedly--led to the downfall of Governors Elliott Spitzer and James McGreevey--both downfalls were catalyzed by Israeli guys!!

4/7/08, 7:02 PM

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