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"Kung fu movie mogul Run Run Shaw dies at 107"

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Blogger agnostic said...

"Fields Medal"

1/6/14, 9:58 PM

Anonymous Auntie Analogue said...


Shoot, y'all, I'm happy when I get my CrackerJack prize.

1/6/14, 10:08 PM

Anonymous Anonymous said...

You have to respect the operators of the Shaw Prize. They definitely are not homers for the Chinese. Check out the list of winners. It resembles the list of Nobel winners if you know what I mean.

1/6/14, 10:24 PM

Blogger Nathan said...

Uncredited?? His name comes up in the title sequence, right after the Ladd Productions logo as "Sir Run Run Shaw."

1/6/14, 11:16 PM

Anonymous Monroe Ficus said...

I was used to see his age on IMDB, and wondered if had died years ago, but his handlers clalimed he was alive to keep their jobs. I assume the same thing about Kirk Kerkorian, but then again I remember that Dannon yogurt ad with the Armenians who lived to be 120 (or were they Georgians?, and didnt they exaggerate their age to get out of the draft?)

1/7/14, 3:50 AM

Anonymous Mr. Anon said...

The Wolf Prize is considered fairly prestigious.

1/7/14, 7:18 AM

Anonymous anony-mouse said...

Astronomy is part of Physics and 'Life sciences' fits with Medicine and Physiology.

Geology? Paleontology? Botany/Zoology/Ag Science?

1/7/14, 8:30 AM

Anonymous Reg Cæsar said...

I can't wait to hear Derb's take on this.

1/7/14, 9:48 AM

Anonymous jody said...

the lasker prize is somewhat known, as is the wolf prize.

prestige is what matters here, and pedigree, to some extent, confers prestige. though the lasker award has been around for 70 years and does not have much more prestige than the wolf prize which is only 30 or 40. the lasker is about twice as old and longstanding, but does not confer much more prestige upon being awarded.

similar situations exist in all award fields. the academy award is more prestigious than the golden globe which is more prestigious than the saturn.

even boxing has the same structure. the WBA or WBC belt means the most, then the IBF, then the WBO.

in many cases, winning one of the lower prestige awards is a prelude to winning the big one. not always, but often. opinion seems to converge from the bottom up here, with the top organization moving the slowest to confer the biggest prize on the consensus recipient. occasionally the top organization will move out into left field and award the big prize to a somebody who wasn't the consensus pick, or even on the radar. it's not clear whether this further reinforces their authority ("Trust us, we know better than you.") or diminishes it ("Who cares what you other guys think, this is what we think so nah nah, na nah nah.")

getting it wrong enough would seem to eventually reduce credibility, as is the case with the US supreme court, which now routinely gets it wrong. it's less clear, in fact, it's not clear at all anymore, whether the lower courts are performing the same ground up consensus building function that the awards committees in other fields perform. legal opinion seems to swing wildly every step up the court hierarchy ladder now, verdicts depending almost strictly on which court the case ends up in and much less on legal opinion convergence and prior precedent.

you could say the US court system has devolved into something similar to how movie or music critics operate.

"This album, er, I mean, this verdict rocks! Right on! Metallica wins the suit."

"No, totally wrong, it absolutely sucks. You must be crazy, prior ruling stricken. See you in State Supreme Court, where I know most of the Justices are Elvis Costello fans and will see this my way."

"Ha! Good luck with that. After your boys overturn it, then we'll bump it to the Supremes. I happen to know Kennedy and Roberts recently attended the DC Metallica show, so you guys are screwed. They will definitely overturn your state ruling in Metallica versus Costello, and will uphold that Metallica does, in fact, rule."

1/7/14, 2:18 PM

Anonymous biff said...

>'How do you get Nobel-like coverage?'

Hot naked chicks. Deliver the prize, are seen with prize-winners, do stuff as part of the prize- I got your cancer researcher incentive right here!

1/7/14, 3:33 PM

Blogger Greg Pandatshang said...

(an observation, not a kvetch; which I worry won’t be clear through the internet): none of these rich people seem to be funding a Nobel-like prize in linguistics or history, which are my favorite subjects. History probably wouldn’t work because (perhaps) it’s too wide-ranging a field and because (very likely) the awards would end up being dominated by retro-Marxian post-feminist culture studies types. Linguistics is a bit more solid than that and I think it would benefit from a big prize awarded at least every few years that would honour, for example, Edward Vajda’s epochal, level-headed, and politically neutral work on Dene-Yeniseian. People complain about the purported Chomskyan postmodern domination of the field of linguistics, but I don’t think it’s really as bad as that; the Chomskyans are sometimes annoying but are not really in a position usually to shout down their detractors, who are more numerous. I don’t think Chomsky’s theories are nuts; I just think that his work is basically a different field than what normal linguists do. I don’t know whether Chomskyan theories really have a value or not; his field is not my field; but I don’t think they are incoherent prima facie. A big prize in linguistics might be wise to have separate awards for generative grammar and for normal linguistics, but I suspect they could figure out how to accommodate both in the same prize.

1/7/14, 3:51 PM

Anonymous Anonymous said...

There's no business like shaw business.

1/7/14, 5:04 PM

Anonymous Anonymous said...

Interesting.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Golden_Harvest

Golden Harvest was a production company founded by men who used to work for Shaw.

And how did it make its fortune?

With masterpieces like these?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZmnHlmg0BxA

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-UaAVJ7bH10

PT Barnum was right. Sucker born every minute.

1/7/14, 5:15 PM

Anonymous Anonymous said...

Pritzker Prize in architecture seems to have gotten traction.

1/7/14, 5:31 PM

Anonymous Anonymous said...

The Nobel peace prize and the economic prize should be retired to make room for real science.

1/7/14, 9:37 PM

Anonymous Anonymous said...

none of these rich people seem to be funding a Nobel-like prize in linguistics or history, which are my favorite subjects.

Well they're important and interesting, but they're less objective and harder to validate. Math, medicine, physics, etc. are more straightforward: you can check the proof, see if the treatment works, run experiments, etc.

1/7/14, 10:05 PM

Anonymous Phil Brunelleschi said...

It surprised me to learn the Pritzker Prize was only 100 grand. Of course only about 1 in 100 arch grads ever gets to design a building so nobody's in it for professional advancement anyway.

1/8/14, 11:30 PM

Anonymous Anonymous said...

The secret piano prize is so hot right now

1/8/14, 11:59 PM

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