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"Steve in Taki's: PISA, Piece by Piece"

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Anonymous Anonymous said...

Poland outscores Israel by a mile, despite the stereotype Jews have of Poles as being less intelligent.

12/3/13, 11:01 PM

Anonymous Anonymous said...

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12/4/13, 12:17 AM

Anonymous Anonymous said...

Israel is a fifth Arab; assume that they tested at the Jordanian level, and you come out with a figure of 493 for the remaining 80%.

12/4/13, 1:17 AM

Anonymous Anonymous said...

"Israel is a fifth Arab"

And there are far more shepardims than ashkenazers

12/4/13, 1:24 AM

Blogger IHTG said...

And there are far more shepardims than ashkenazers

No.

12/4/13, 1:41 AM

Anonymous Anonymous said...

http://prospect.org/article/korean-lit-comes-america

Koreans are shallow idiots.
They are more eager for recognition than achievement.
Therefore, the recognition of being smart than the question of how intelligence should really be used.

Their pathetic attempt to win the Nobel Prize seems to operate on the same (lack of)principle.

12/4/13, 2:09 AM

Blogger Eyal said...

According to the Israeli press children who were tested in hebrew had a math results of 489 while children who were tested in Arabic scored 388 . That means that the gap between Arabs and Jews is 1 SD (100 point).
Consider that Ashkenazim/Mizrahim ratio among Hebrew testers is 50/50 , and that Ashkenazim typically score 0.75 SD (75 point) then Mizrahim
(e.g on the Israeli SAT) , then Ashkenazim score in math is about : 489 + 75 * 0.5 ~ 521 .

12/4/13, 3:10 AM

Anonymous Anonymous said...

Perhaps the stereotype should be that poles weren't as cunning .

12/4/13, 5:43 AM

Anonymous Mark Lee said...

Hi Steve:

I've met Amanda Ripley at an Oct 2013 education summit, and subsequently shared the following with her via e-mail on using the IB as an academic benchmark that is consistent throughout the world:

"While the CCSS is an US-only benchmark, a global academic benchmark is the International Baccalaureate’s Diploma program, which is held every May and November globally.

For the November 2012 IB Diploma examinations, Singapore (with 0.1% of the world’s population), accounted for 41 (23%) of the world’s 176 perfect IB scores. Singapore's Anglo-Chinese School (Independent) students received 37 of those perfect IB scores.

Reference:
http://www.acsindep.moe.edu.sg/acs_indep/news.php?id=264

Do keep in mind that the IB programme tends to be reserved for schools that can afford the IB curriculum and examination costs, thus skewing the IB programme more towards private and higher-end public schools.

However the IB is consistent throughout the world, and is administered twice yearly. Thus it can provide more rapid feedback on education reform. "

12/4/13, 7:17 AM

Anonymous Jerry said...

Koreans, and Asians in general, are materialistic and shallow, but they do perform... that's how Koreans now run the UN, the WHO, and the World Bank. Quite amazing, really.

A small inaccuracy about Poland, Korea, and Finland.

"First, all three achieved their independence only within the last 100 years."

Poland and Korea were both significant states in the pre-modern era, with Poland being dismembered by three powerful neighbors at the end of the 18th century.

The dates for modern independence are:

Korea: 1953 (or some years after the Korean War)
Poland: 1989
Finland: 1945 (with "Finlandization" as a restraining feature)





12/4/13, 8:33 AM

Anonymous Florida resident said...

Dear Mr. Sailer:
You make references to your really illuminating articles in VDARE.
However, they are now closed to non-paying readers. I personally paid them the requested $ 100.00, but due to some glitch in their site never was I able to reap the benefits of being paying subscriber of VDARE.
Kind request to you:
Can you place your articles there to your other web-site, in a manner Derbyshire does it ?
Your Florida resident.

12/4/13, 8:59 AM

Blogger sunbeam said...

Decidedly unscientific, but I was always taken by the notion Spengler had that the environment (the stuff around them like desert and mountains) shaping the people.

Obviously in the long run, everyone knows the story on that.

But even in the short run I've always had half of a hunch that being back in the middle east per se, would have the effect of "dumbing down" Jews to the middle eastern average.

Perhaps not. But while I guess I idealize rationality as much as many people, I swear it sure seems like evolution and change happens a lot quicker than it is supposed to.

As an anecdote, just look at pictures of just Americans from just the past 100 years or so. It used to be much easier to pick out people with Eastern European and Italian ancestry for example.

Now it seems much harder. I know hairstyles and clothing can make a big difference, but it sure seems like such a trivial thing as facial features have kind of "normalized" in just a few generations.

Or maybe Americans have just gotten so fat it covers everything up.

As another anecdote, it is a pretty common stereotype to portray African Americans as having "big lips," a la the black shrimp guy in Forrest Gump.

My father once commented that you used to see black people with this sort of look, back in the 30's, 40's, and 50's. He said it baffled him as to why he turned around one day and didn't see it anymore.

I guess I may be ready for crystals next, but still...

12/4/13, 9:08 AM

Anonymous Anonymous said...

@sunbeam

maybe black americans didn't used to be 20% white.

12/4/13, 10:23 AM

Anonymous Anonymous said...

Poland, Finland, and Korea have all traditionally been squeezed by 2 powers on opposite sides. Poland was flanked by Germany and Russia, Finland by Sweden and Russia, and Korea by Japan and China.

12/4/13, 10:43 AM

Anonymous Anonymous said...

"Koreans, and Asians in general, are materialistic and shallow, but they do perform... that's how Koreans now run the UN, the WHO, and the World Bank."

Banky is US stooge, and WHO and WORLD BANK are jokes only good for name-dropping, thus perfectly suited for the vain Korean mind who care more about name recognition than real power or achievement.

12/4/13, 11:24 AM

Anonymous Anonymous said...

"Korea by Japan and China."

Actually, Korea got on pretty good terms with China historically, esp given the size difference.
And Japan, except for Hideoyoshi's invasion in the 16th century, was no threat to Korea until the first half of the 20th century.

Poles has it worse in terms of political geography.

12/4/13, 11:27 AM

Anonymous Anonymous said...

I've always had half of a hunch that being back in the middle east per se, would have the effect of "dumbing down" Jews to the middle eastern average.

More than half of the Israeli Jews tested aren't "back" in the Middle East, they are Sephardim and Mizrahim whose ancestors either never left the Middle East or returned to it centuries ago. Ashkenazi Jews make up less than half of the Israeli Jewish population. Also, the Israeli average includes low scores from a large number of Israeli Arabs.

12/8/13, 11:18 AM

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