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"Hispanic economic productivity: the New Mexico case study"

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Anonymous Anonymous said...

There are pure European Spanish descendants of the original settlers that are the aristocracy of NM. It has been my experience that they are very sharp and take advantage of programs designed to help the poor and trodden down.

5/9/13, 6:32 PM

Blogger Jokah Macpherson said...

New Mexico's state motto ought to be "Thank God for Mississippi!"

Sorry, Alabama already took that one. It makes more sense because we are neighbors.

5/9/13, 6:39 PM

Anonymous Anonymous said...

The vast majority of people from Latin American are not white (pure Spaniards) but rather are MAMBs

MAMBs = Mestizos, Amerindians, Mulattoes, and Blacks


Latin America is populated with MAMBs

5/9/13, 6:45 PM

Anonymous Anonymous said...

New Mexico is a *classic* Conquistador American, as you call them. There are families in New Mexico with an almost unbroken lineage back to honest-to-god conquistadors.
As an example, still people who speak archaic 17th century Spanish. And it's not like a few old people who half-remember 20 words, it's as real and current as english.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Mexican_Spanish
The older, "established" families frequently use it as a class marker. NM is basically a time capsule

5/9/13, 6:59 PM

Anonymous Conquistador Cielo said...

New Mexico had two colonizations, the original 1598 colonization was followed by an Indian revolt that forced the Spaniards out. NM was re-colonized in 1693, and several of the colonists at this time were French in addition to Spanish and Spanish-Mexican.

5/9/13, 7:11 PM

Anonymous Anonymous said...

I lived in Santa Fe for a summer while interning at at the labs in Los Alamos. I grew up on a farm in central Illinois and I really don't like living in the city, but I wouldn't mind living in either of those two places. I found New Mexico to be very charming...

That being said, New Mexico really dependent on (usually white) federal workers...

From wikipedia...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Economy_of_New_Mexico#Government_and_Military

"""""
Federal government spending is a major driver of the New Mexico economy. In 2005 the federal government spent $2.03 on New Mexico for every dollar of tax revenue collected from the state. This rate of return is higher than any other state in the Union.[17] The federal government is also a major employer in New Mexico providing more than a quarter of the state's jobs.
"""""

5/9/13, 7:13 PM

Anonymous Francois said...

As I say in the other post, the only contributions mestizos have made to humanity are the taco and the donkey show.

Sad but true....

5/9/13, 7:25 PM

Anonymous The Five Jays said...

One of the funniest things I've ever seen is Red State Update discussing Bill Richardson's endorsement of Obama.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qsvJyJsoBLY

5/9/13, 8:05 PM

Anonymous Anonymous said...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Mexican_Spanish

"... an archaic form of 17th century Castilian Spanish. Despite a continual influence from the Spanish spoken in Mexico to the south by contact with Mexican migrants who fled to U.S. from (the, sic) Mexican Revolution, New Mexico's relative geographical isolation and political isolation from the time New Mexico was purchased by (the, sic) United States from Mexico and unique political history has made New Mexican Spanish differ notably..."


The point that the US owes its large influx of Mexican immigrants, at least originally, to the Mexican Revolution needs to be more widely known. It had maybe near twice as many causalities as the US Civil War, in a smaller nation. Why should we still be paying for the Mexican Revolution? What happens if the next Mexican Revolution includes the US?

In case you are in need of sartorial preparation;[1]. Nothing concealed about those quick draw holsters. These don't look like Zapatistas (indios). If you haven't ever seen all those kid pics, poke around (this is a "well known" pic in Mexico, here's another). Sometimes you can see them on the wall of Mexican restaurants in the US, but they often seem to just disappear in the ambiance.

5/9/13, 8:13 PM

Anonymous Anonymous said...

The vast majority of people from Latin American are not white (pure Spaniards) but rather are MAMBs

MAMBs = Mestizos, Amerindians, Mulattoes, and Blacks


Latin America is populated with MAMBs


What do you define as a vast majority? If you look at all of Latin America, from Mexico to Argentina, then:

36% of Latin Americans are white
30% are Mestizos
20% are mulattos
9% are Natives
3% are black

True, whites are outnumbered, but they are still the single largest group. BTW, about half of the whites live in Brazil.

5/9/13, 8:17 PM

Blogger Maxwell Power said...

Richardson's whole consigliere-Hispanico career is a giant crock. For a further small but illuminating example check the intermittent series Michael Kinsley did on the tax-breaks-for-Hollywood-crews boondoggle under the governor's tenure ("Was wondering one day why the cinematic art of depicting downtown Albuquerque had suddenly come into its own")

5/9/13, 8:53 PM

Anonymous Anonymous said...

But the green chili is so good. It's vibrantly good!

Jokes aside, I kind of liked NM when I was passing through. Though it's the original place you going to want to leave when you grow up, if you're from there. It just doesn't have anything going on.

5/9/13, 9:16 PM

Blogger Dennis Dale said...

From an SNL presidential debate parody in 92:

Sam Donaldson:
Governor Clinton, let's be frank. You're running for president, yet your only experience has been as the governor of a small, backward state with a population of drunken hillbillies riding around in pickup trucks. The main streets of your capital city, Little Rock, are something out of L'il Abner, with buxom underage girls in their cutoff denims prancing around in front of Jethro and Billy Bob, while corncob-pipe-smoking, shotgun-toting grannies fire indiscriminantly at runaway hogs.

Bill Clinton:
I'm sorry, Sam, do you have a question?

Sam Donaldson:
My question is: How can you stand it? Don't you lose your mind living down there?

Bill Clinton:
Sam, you must have watched too many of my opponent's TV spots. I'm tired of the Bush campaign trying to portray my home state as some sort of primitive Third World country. The fact is, Arkansas did have a long way to go, but we've made progress. When I started as governor, we were fiftieth in adult literacy, and last year, I'm proud to say, we shot ahead of Mississippi. We're #49, and we're closing fast on Alabama. Watch out, Alabama - we got your number!

[Dana Carvey as President Bush makes lame joke referencing "Deliverance"]

Bill Clinton:
That's not fair. Just this year we passed Mississippi to become 41st in the prevention of rickets!

5/9/13, 10:38 PM

Anonymous Anonymous said...

Racial statistics from Latin American countries are not that trustworthy. Supposedly Nicaragua is 17% white, and Honduras 1% white, with most of the rest being mestizos. Yet I noticed a lot more white-looking people in Honduras than in Nicaragua. There was even one province where basically everyone, even the farm laborers, looked completely white. My guess is that in Honduras, they count you as a mestizo if you are even a small bit mixed, while in Nicaragua you are white if you look mostly white, or even if you claim to white (a claim subject to a certain amount of wishful thinking, as white still = better for many down there).

5/10/13, 3:16 AM

Anonymous Anonymous said...

"From an SNL presidential debate parody in 92:"

This is the risk we run as a continental nation and a global power when policy is made from Rockefeller Center. Most NY elites wouldn't know a Mexican from a Mormon.

5/10/13, 3:26 AM

Anonymous Anonymous said...

Wow, a middlin' comment thread and no mention of the Crypto Jews in the Southwest?

5/10/13, 5:06 AM

Anonymous Anonymous said...

You should also blog this older piece by Cochran:

http://westhunt.wordpress.com/2012/03/28/zones-of-thought/

5/10/13, 6:30 AM

Anonymous Corn said...

"The point that the US owes its large influx of Mexican immigrants, at least originally, to the Mexican Revolution "

This is a point that needs to be hammered home with the public. Everyone so often some Mexican-American activist trots out the old "We didn't cross the border, the border crossed us" saw. In reality probably 90% of the Mexican-American population are immigrants or descended from people who have immigrated since 1910.

5/10/13, 8:49 AM

Blogger Sara Wall said...

Having lived in New Mexico for 7 years, it is almost impossible to find anyone that is hispanic that will identify being Mexican. Apparently the are all of Spanish ancestory.

5/13/13, 1:22 PM

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