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"My Election Wrap-Up VDARE column"

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Anonymous Reg Cæsar said...

So, is the two-party system not a "viable industry segment"? That's 0.5 parties too many...

I wish Steve would stop using the inaccurate and misleading phrase "midterm elections". They are nothing of the kind. Those elections come at the end of the office's term.

Now, Ted Stevens's seat may experience a real midterm election.

11/10/08, 12:00 AM

Blogger jbday said...

Reg, the "midterms" is reference to the fact that they take place about halfway through a president's term. America's obsession with the presidency leads to use of such terms.


"That he still got 46 percent of the vote attests more to the value of the brand than to his performance.

I agree with what Bay Buchanan wrote in early June, "John McCain is relevant only in so far as he is not Barack Obama." Obama was able to convince a majority of the American people that he was not outside of the mainstream and that he was capable of being commander-in-chief. As long as he was able to do those two thing, victory was assured because of the unpopularity of the Republican Party, particularly Bush.

The McCain campaign wasted about two months on "character" and "Country First" when they should have been going directly going after Obama. When McCain said Obama was not a man you needed to scared of, he just made it easier for soft Obama supporters to believe he was safe. The people who went to McCain and Palin rallies, manned the phones and knocked on doors were desperate for McCain to seriously go after Obama. Jeremiah Wright was the only fatal rock McCain could have slung against Obama's Goliath.

11/10/08, 7:30 AM

Blogger Garland said...

"But the glittering prizes are only available to those with more courage than the old jet pilot showed in 2008."

In, I guess, fairness to McCain and his political courage, it's not at all clear to me how much it was a question of courage. For most Republicans, sure, it would have been. But McCain I think really believes in liberalism, eg his *active* fanaticism on immigration, not passive acquiescence to PC. In his view he was doing the right thing, even the brave thing, by playing by PC rules in the campaign.

11/10/08, 7:42 AM

Anonymous Anonymous said...

The movie "Twelve Angry Men", from 1957, was on the other day while I was packing antiques in my living room a couple weeks ago. It was plum awful, of course, but I immediately thought of McCain and just knew, *knew*, why he is the way he is. He would have been 19 years old when this particular movie came out, a "teaching" movie that was emblematic of others starting to come out in the fifties: teaching racial liberalism without any nuance. McCain came of age when all right thinking people were embracing such very new, yet simplistic notions. I had to ask my husband to turn it down because the bigot literally yells very nearly every single time he speaks (he even breaks down crying at the end, revealing some pop-psych reason for hating the defendant). The television series, MASH of the '70's and early '80's, strikes me the same way. McCain even talks like the wise protagonists in these movies and shows.

Steve,
I came to the same conclusion you did about white politicians and the Democratic party. While Ferraro on election night cheered that Obama was able to go into states that nobody thought possible for a Democrat to win, it naturally occurred to us all that *only* a black Democrat can do that because only such a Democrat can get Blacks to turn out like that.

I don't think our country will be recognizable to us in 20 years and will be wildly different in 30. I've thought this for the past six months and political events make me believe that more and more firmly. The latest is that liberals know in a very real way that minorities are not their friends on social issues and this is starting to have real consequences as their numbers and clout grow. The liberals may yet win due to the judiciary in California, but it will be a phyrric victory. I can see liberal whites retreating to the two north corners of our country and I'm not sure about everyone else.

11/10/08, 11:05 AM

Anonymous Anonymous said...

I think you are being a tad dismissive of McCain's political judgment. There is a resonable case that he also knew he had to boost white support and with the Palin pick he decided to try and unify whites across gender and class. It almost worked I would say - one financial crisis less and he might have made it. Yes, he would have been better off with a more coherent program and declaring war on the MSMs' sensibilities but was presumably trying to square his own sense of honor with what he needed to do. No one who has been that long in public life is devoid of an instinct for the sharp lines of politics!

11/10/08, 11:51 AM

Anonymous hcl said...

One hundred percent of U.S. national politicians know the AIPAC Strategy (appealing to Jews) beats the Sailer Strategy (appealing to gentile whites) every time.

11/10/08, 9:04 PM

Anonymous green mamba said...

One hundred percent of U.S. national politicians know the AIPAC Strategy (appealing to Jews) beats the Sailer Strategy (appealing to gentile whites) every time.

"AIPAC strategy" is a misnomer: McCain/Palin certainly presented themselves as more aggressive supporters of Israel than Obama/Biden.

Also, did Obama win significantly more support from Jews than Gore or Kerry did?

11/10/08, 10:40 PM

Anonymous Anonymous said...

Do the math. Whites are 77% of the electorate - and declining. Running a campaign premised on the belief that minorities are a problem, means 1) they will all vote against you 2) that you would have to get 2/3 of the white vote to win. Basically impossible. Listening to your "advice" would be suicidal. Its too bad the US is not a Westminster parliamentary system where the VDARE party could claim its ten seats out of 300; the Black Panthers its ten seats; the Green party its ten seats, etc. so that all interest groups could potentially have a tangible say in the governing coalitions, a la Europe.

11/11/08, 4:48 AM

Blogger Ronduck said...

green mamba said...

Also, did Obama win significantly more support from Jews than Gore or Kerry did?

Yes, Jews went 74-22 for Obama. That doesn't include the slanted media coverage that was put out by the media.

11/11/08, 11:04 AM

Blogger Audacious Epigone said...

Green Mamba,

No. Shares of the Democratic Jewish vote for the previous three Presidential elections:

Obama - 78%
Kerry - 74%
Gore - 79%

11/11/08, 11:06 AM

Anonymous lershedu said...

""AIPAC strategy" is a misnomer: McCain/Palin certainly presented themselves as more aggressive supporters of Israel than Obama/Biden."

Green Mamba is right. AIPAC imples pro-Israel. I think it is a misconception that The values of (a) secular progressive Jews and the value of (b) the most steadfast Zionists are approximately the same.

First, (b) includes a ton of non-Jews, esp. Protestant conservatives. Secondly, (b) includes a lot of anti-leftists (ditto). (A) includes a lot of Reform Jews who sometimes seem to think of Israel as just a bunch of kibbutzim who could get along with the Palestinians if only they'd stop with that whole military thing.

Needless to say, (a) liked Obama better, (b) like McCain as much if not more. And neither figured out the single position on Israel that makes any sense, namely Ilana Mercer's position that Israel has a right to exist, and that it has a right to defend itself without kibbitzing from the US ... and that the US taxpayer owes not a dime to the Israeli tax-spender.

Stop the aid, respect the right of self-defense, defend your borders ... a position so normal it's been completely forgotten by the sort of people who need to use Hobbit weed to help them "think globally". (Maybe that's an unfair assertion, but the strongest opinions on Israel I've ever heard were from a self-proclaimed "hippy" pacifist Jew whose father was from Israel, who was convinced that the attacks on Israel would stop if they'd just be "like Costa Rica" and abolish their army.)

11/11/08, 11:36 AM

Anonymous Anonymous said...

I'd be surprised if this is a huge surprise to the clipboard crowd or those who put such great store in polling - but I so throughly object to the manipulation of the weak minded that is inherent in the polling (& public results anticipation) process that I make it a rule to tell the truth about almost absolutely nothing (my age, sex, & race are a bit difficult to lie about, at least in person)to pollsters and exit interviewers. Perhaps many of the similarly inclined are joining me in making this activity worthless to anyone. If so, good riddance.

11/11/08, 1:31 PM

Anonymous Anonymous said...

Demographically speaking the Jews are finished. Their numbers are declining faster then for Christian whites. They are inter marrying and most of them are not very religious anyway. Worse, their traditional enemies the Arabs, are growing. I don;t think they will be getting the last laugh by any means.

11/11/08, 5:00 PM

Blogger teacher.paris said...

11/09/2008
Fight To Reveal Obama's Birth Certificate Continues
By John P. Connolly, The Bulletin

Two of the plaintiffs in court cases against Sen. Barack Obama, the president-elect, are working to move their cases forward before his presidential inauguration.

Philip J. Berg, the attorney who filed suit against Mr. Obama challenging him to produce his original birth certificate to prove he meets the constitutional requirements to serve as U.S. president. Mr. Berg filed a Writ of Certiorari in the U.S. Supreme Court late in October, in an effort to force Mr. Obama to produce the document.

Accordingly, the U.S. Supreme Court has said that Mr. Obama, the DNC and all co-defendants are to respond to the writ, on or before Dec. 1.

The judge in Mr. Berg's original case ruled that Mr. Berg does not have standing to enforce the constitutional requirements on a presidential candidate. Mr. Berg appealed the ruling to the Supreme Court.

"I look forward to receiving defendant Obama's response to the writ and am hopeful the U. S. Supreme Court will review Berg v. Obama. I believe Mr. Obama is not a constitutionally-qualified natural-born citizen and is ineligible to assume the office of President of the United States."

Mr. Obama put an electronic photo of a birth certification on his "Fight the Smears" Web site, a document that his critics have found unconvincing. The raised seal and authoritative signature needed to validate the document cannot be seen on the scan. The Obama campaign was unwilling to release the original document to the court when Mr. Berg filed suit in August, choosing instead to argue against Mr. Berg's standing.

Mr. Berg asserts that Mr. Obama was born in Kenya, as his mother, Ann Dunham, was denied entry to the plane home due to her advanced pregnancy. Since she was only 18 at the time of Mr. Obama's birth, she would not have passed citizenship on to Mr. Obama. In 1961, citizenship could only be passed on to a child where one parent was an alien should the citizen parent have resided in the U.S. for 10 years, five of those over the age of 14.

The State of Hawaii has refused to release copies of Mr. Obama's birth certificate, because Department of Health officials say the privacy statutes of the state prevent them from doing so to anyone who does not have a "direct and tangible interest" in the record as prescribed in the state statute.

In Honolulu, Andy Martin, a longtime critic of Mr. Obama, filed a lawsuit in October, in an attempt to get the Hawaiian Department of Health to release Mr. Obama's birth certificate records. Mr. Martin announced last week that he plans to get members of the Electoral College to pressure Mr. Obama into presenting his birth certificate.

"We are going to start organizing a 'Goal Line Stand' in the Electoral College to force Barack Obama to produce his original 1961 birth certificate for review by the American people," Mr. Martin said. "Republicans, conservatives and independents have a new rallying point. Don't let Obama pass through the Electoral College until he has produced his original birth certificate and ended the mystery shrouding his origins."

No one, aside from Department of Health officials, has seen the original document. Mr. Martin has a court hearing on Nov. 18 in the Circuit Court for Honolulu, Hawaii to continue his case.

John P. Connolly can be reached at jconnolly@thebulletin.us



©The Bulletin 2008 Philadelphia

11/12/08, 12:01 AM

Anonymous rast said...

Do the math. Whites are 77% of the electorate - and declining. Running a campaign premised on the belief that minorities are a problem, means 1) they will all vote against you 2) that you would have to get 2/3 of the white vote to win. Basically impossible.

What is "a campaign premised on the belief that minorities are a problem"? I'll assume you are talking about an anti-immigration platform?

Steve has debunked this before. Black votes are not in play. Most Hispanics are already voting against you. Further losses among Hispanics and whiter people are more than offset by gains among anti-immigration whites.

11/12/08, 6:53 AM

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