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"Who, Whom, Humor"

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Anonymous Hunsdon said...

What’s lost in Dr. Choi's comments is the thrill obscenity can create. It’s the sharp dangerous edge of anarchy and when used effectively, it can BLEEP up the most carefully planned cocktail party, smashing all propriety to BLEEP.

(I knew saving that quote would come in handy.)

4/10/14, 7:29 PM

Anonymous Bert said...

Thanks to YouTube, people like these guys can spread their humor to many thousands all over the world. So I'm not sure why they're bothering with some student newspaper.

4/10/14, 7:33 PM

Blogger Steve Sailer said...

http://forward.com/articles/191724/a-short-history-of-jews-and-obscenity/

4/10/14, 7:33 PM

Anonymous Auntie Analogue said...

"Last fall, a group of students sent a letter to the university senate’s Freedom of Expression Committee demanding an end to [Koala] distribution on campus."

Where's that Mario Savio Free Speech Movement when you need it?!



"'I dread it when it comes out,' said Susan E. Cayleff, a professor in the women’s studies department, who spends class time during Distro Days discussing The Koala. 'It makes students terrified and uncomfortable and not proud to be here.'"

To which I can only say: "Come over, baby, Whole Lotta Shakin' Goin' On!"



Boy, oh, boy. How the Left Establishment hates - and tries to demonize - what is nothing more than a dose of its own 1960's anti-Establishment medicine.

4/10/14, 7:43 PM

Anonymous Big Bill said...

My goodness, they have come full circle, haven't they?

Blue-nosed Mrs. Grundys.

What ever happened to "transgressive art"?

4/10/14, 8:05 PM

Anonymous Anonymous said...

The Koala provide a glimpse of how challenging it can be for a university to uphold its free speech mores yet still remain a civil, welcoming place for its increasingly diverse student body.

I've been hearing a variation on this line for quite some time now. As the nation become more diverse, we have to (fill in the blank) on some basic (fill in the blank) of American culture. Yet it never occurred to anyone that maybe we should go easy on increasing said diversification so as not to lose the (fill in the blank) of American culture.

4/10/14, 8:07 PM

Anonymous Hunsdon said...

Auntie Analogue said: Boy, oh, boy. How the Left Establishment hates - and tries to demonize - what is nothing more than a dose of its own 1960's anti-Establishment medicine.

Hunsdon said: They can dish it, but they can't take it.

4/10/14, 8:08 PM

Blogger XXXXXXXXXXXXX said...

Auntie Analogue said...
Where's that Mario Savio Free Speech Movement when you need it?!

Probably in the same place they were when protesters were demanding Arthur Jensen be fired.

B.B.

4/10/14, 8:14 PM

Anonymous Anonymous said...

Any way to subscribe to this paper? From across the country?

4/10/14, 8:18 PM

Anonymous Anonymous said...

It's only when the jokes are funny that the established authority has anything to worry about. If the jokes aren't funny, the jokers fail.

Since everyone knows this, the game for authority becomes; Should I protest? If the jokes aren't funny, then I'm stupid for not recognizing the obvious.

If the jokes are funny, then I must protest, for the laughter will undermine my authority.

But if the jokes are funny, and I protest, then I reveal myself to others to be exactly what I am.

Neil Templeton

4/10/14, 8:52 PM

Anonymous Anonymous said...

Why is it that America's rainbow coalition of losers, weirdoes, and freaks always act like they're not the Man now? They control the entire federal government, most state and local governments, the entire education system from pre-pre-pre-K to university, 98% of all media, 100% of large company HR departments. Yet the revolution apparently never ends.

4/10/14, 8:59 PM

Anonymous Mr. Anon said...

"Today, the Sixties People are The Establishment and they don't much like young people using jokes and satire because it could get out of control and undermine them."

Today we have controlled satire - John Stewart and Steven Colbert, for example - satire that is socially acceptable to society's elites and only pokes fun at the things they want it to.

"Choi believes that’s when universities ought to step in. Administrators have a responsibility, he said, to “uphold not just legal behavior but ethical behavior as well, and some common sense about what is and isn’t funny.”"

The fact that Mr. Choi is a university professor I find to be funny.......and simultaneously, not funny.

4/10/14, 9:31 PM

Anonymous Anonymous said...

obscenity used to be banned, and localities used to not have incorporation shoved down their gullet. the perennial problem with fouling ones own nest.

4/10/14, 9:37 PM

Anonymous Themus Don said...

"Where's that Mario Savio Free Speech Movement when you need it?!"

That whole free speech movement depended on the fact that American Universities have large campuses which US Liberals consider a "special zone" of rights and partying. In Europe, there are no large campuses like that. The Universities reside in cities, and if the kids wanted to protest, they would have to negotiate with the town officials.

4/10/14, 9:38 PM

Anonymous Anonymous said...

http://thekoala.org/archives/2013-FA-1.pdf

4/10/14, 10:08 PM

Anonymous Alfa158 said...

The Revolution won't end until all the wounded have been shot.

4/10/14, 10:18 PM

Anonymous Anonymous said...

I remember reading this paper when it was in its infancy. mostly it was just vulgar-targeted to appeal to the post pubescent dorky male. San Diego State's equivalent 'Montezuma's Revenge' was much more engaging

4/10/14, 10:32 PM

Anonymous Hacienda said...

Dr. Choi:

http://stmarksproject.org/wp-content/uploads/2014/01/IMG_20140119_204111.jpg

You have to be careful about people like this. They will slowly kill you by suffocation.

4/10/14, 10:38 PM

Anonymous Anonymous said...

Opposing gay marriage = Jim Crow

Opposing shamnesty = ....

http://dailycaller.com/2014/04/10/pelosi-immigration-law-like-internment-of-japanese/

4/10/14, 10:39 PM

Anonymous Anonymous said...

http://mindweaponsinragnarok.com/2014/04/10/ann-coulter-goes-full-wn-points-out-jewish-hypocrisy-on-immigration-policy-of-us-versus-israel/

Yikes

4/10/14, 10:42 PM

Anonymous jon said...

Apparently, just being mentioned in the NYT alongside the Koala was enough to do in the Medium at Rutgers.

4/10/14, 11:05 PM

Blogger Black Sea said...

"To learn who rules over you, simply find out whom you are not allowed to criticize."
--Voltaire

4/10/14, 11:46 PM

Anonymous Anonymous said...

France recently banned their only comedian Dieudonne (A chubby Afro-French neo Nazi).

Seeing Nazies everywhere:

Is 'Quenelle' Backwards Version of Nazi Salute?
Popular French Reverse Slang Offers Clues to Odious Gesture

http://forward.com/articles/190967/is-quenelle-backwards-version-of-nazi-salute/#ixzz2yYwVo4OC

Dieudosphere - Le site officiel de Dieudonné
www.dieudosphere.com/‎

4/11/14, 1:03 AM

Anonymous John Craig said...

On the subject of who whom humor (from 2010 but still timely since it concerns our current leader):

http://justnotsaid.blogspot.com/2010/02/pity-poor-comedians_18.html

4/11/14, 1:04 AM

Blogger IHTG said...

http://mindweaponsinragnarok.com/2014/04/10/ann-coulter-goes-full-wn-points-out-jewish-hypocrisy-on-immigration-policy-of-us-versus-israel/

That's a pretty low bar for being "full WN".

4/11/14, 3:18 AM

Blogger Shouting Thomas said...

Took a look at the Koala.

In substance and style, it looks surprisingly like the early "underground comix" of the 60s. Joyously juvenile and offensive.

No wonder the lefties hate the Koala.

4/11/14, 4:04 AM

Anonymous Anonymous said...

Boomers into whomers.

4/11/14, 6:13 AM

Anonymous Cail Corishev said...

What ever happened to "transgressive art"?

You can't have transgressive art if there are no transgressions. Although, by today's standards, I guess an example could be the Sistine Chapel ceiling.

4/11/14, 6:45 AM

Anonymous Cail Corishev said...

Why is it that America's rainbow coalition of losers, weirdoes, and freaks always act like they're not the Man now?

Because the One who is their ultimate enemy is still there.

4/11/14, 6:46 AM

Blogger Average Joe said...

"Cross the line", of course, means to say something that the Left disagrees with.

4/11/14, 9:38 AM

Anonymous Anonymous said...

humor rights

4/11/14, 10:09 AM

Anonymous Oswald Spengler said...

"Free speech for me but not for thee."

4/11/14, 11:25 AM

Anonymous Anonymous said...

I thought we brought in Asian guys to be engineering and CS profs because white people are too stupid. How did one get into the Department of the Humanities?

4/11/14, 12:01 PM

Anonymous nice cake said...

At Trader Joe's recently, an obvious Sixties Person was talking to the cashier about bags. I said to him, "remember when you believed in freedom?" He responded, "that was a long time ago."

4/11/14, 12:06 PM

Anonymous Anonymous said...

@Shouting thomas - did you leave a link that I didn't see?

4/11/14, 12:30 PM

Blogger Joseph Dooley said...

Could The Koala be a meta joke about multiculturalism?

4/11/14, 12:39 PM

Blogger Whiskey said...

The people who really like Hitler, tend to be African or Muslims. Not White people. As long as we are noticing.

4/11/14, 1:29 PM

Anonymous SFG said...

"The people who really like Hitler, tend to be African or Muslims. Not White people. As long as we are noticing."

Naah, there are plenty of white Nazis. No Africans like him, plenty of Muslims do--after all, he went after several of their enemies (Jews, Brits, and Americans).

Question for you--anyone think of a time the Jews and the Brits were on opposite sides? There was the bit over the Mandate of Palestine, but that seems to have sorted out relatively quickly.

4/11/14, 3:07 PM

Blogger Steve Sailer said...

SFG asks:

"Question for you--anyone think of a time the Jews and the Brits were on opposite sides? There was the bit over the Mandate of Palestine, but that seems to have sorted out relatively quickly."

From Cromwell onward, Britain had a tiny number of rich, conservative Jews who augmented the reigning power structure -- the Rothschilds, Disraeli, etc.

4/11/14, 3:27 PM

Anonymous Anonymous said...

And when students pleaded last fall with Mark Freeman, chairman of the Freedom of Expression Committee, to help shut it down, he wrote back that “freedom of the press is very broadly protected.”

I am outraged that the Freedom of Expression Committee is not taking immediate action to censor the offending publication. What purpose does the Freedom of Expression Committee serve if it won't even censor something that someone dislikes? Is Mr. Freeman unaware of the victims' right to not have to tolerate the existence of anything they find distasteful?

4/11/14, 4:14 PM

Anonymous David said...

>“When administrators don’t take a stand, it is almost as if they are supporting what these people are saying.”<

Because the purpose of administrators is to control everything that happens on campus, down to the last secret thought of the lowest freshman. Totalitarianism is the default assumption of the left. For details, re-read Orwell's 1984.

4/11/14, 6:56 PM

Anonymous stari_momak said...

Tangential, but...

SDSU is a pretty good school--by far the best of the state schools, except for the two Cal Poly schools. If I were a kid planning to stay in the San Diego area, I'd probably choose it over UCSD. They've also ramped up their dorm capacity over the last 15 years or so, and a lot of kids live nearby, so it isn't a commuter school in the sense of, say, Cal State Fullerton.

And yes, one of my degrees is from there.

4/11/14, 8:21 PM

Anonymous Silver said...

"That's a pretty low bar for being "full WN"."

Exactly. That's what we've been trying to tell the Jewish establishment for years: pointing out Jewish hypocrisy on race and immigration doesn't make you a "WN."

4/11/14, 9:11 PM

Anonymous Anonymous said...

http://www.nationalreview.com/article/375537/grand-detroit-hotel-armond-white

http://www.jamesbowman.net/reviewDetail.asp?pubID=2331

4/12/14, 11:49 AM

Anonymous Anonymous said...

San Diego State is a commuter school? Now, it's not exactly Harvard academically, but it's a hell of a party school. Not something you exactly associate with commuter schools ordinarily.

4/12/14, 12:12 PM

Blogger Maxwell Power said...

There was a modern attempt, would have been pre-2000, to revive The Brown Jug, in tribute to the short-lived 1920s student mag S.J. Perelman had written for. Like its obvious inspiration The Onion the new pub was relatively funny but IIRC didn't go San Diego on satirizing familiar targets. That would not be copacetic at a pretentious U.S. News campus, with students who are just as invested in the school's image/PR as the administrators are, if not more so (see: "The Brown Noser")

4/12/14, 8:22 PM

Blogger Maxwell Power said...

That whole free speech movement depended on the fact that American Universities have large campuses which US Liberals consider a "special zone" of rights and partying. In Europe, there are no large campuses like that

The whole U.S. higher-ed archipelago is one big property tax scam

4/12/14, 8:26 PM

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