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"Condi Rice & diversity via sameness"

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Blogger Noumenon said...

I'm afraid I didn't get the answer to the question "What's the story behind all this?" You need a sentence saying "So the most likely reason Augusta quickly added a black member but dragged their feet on women is that being men-only is currently fashionable for showing you're about good technical golfing... while barring blacks is not."

8/22/12, 4:56 AM

Anonymous Anonymous said...

So, when they say it was male only, were wives of members allowed on the premises, just not the golf course?

8/22/12, 5:02 AM

Anonymous Black Death said...

Maybe admission to Augusta National is still sought after, but here in flyover country, we have a glut of golf courses and a shortage of golfers. Our once-snooty local country club went belly-up last year, and a number of other new courses, often with associated housing developments, have also gone bankrupt. Of course, it may have something to do with the fact that the golf season here is only six months long.

I hate golf, so I find this all rather amusing. I'm in complete agreement with Mark Twain - golf is a good walk spoiled.

8/22/12, 5:47 AM

Blogger Steve Sailer said...

"were wives of members allowed on the premises, just not the golf course?"

Women had been averaging about 1,000 rounds per year on Augusta National as guests of members.

In contrast, some men's only clubs never allow women on the premises at all, except maybe one day each December to shop in the clubhouse for gifts for their menfolk.

8/22/12, 6:00 AM

Anonymous Anonymous said...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pO7HDfrKFdU

plunger tournament

8/22/12, 7:09 AM

Anonymous Anonymous said...

Now we know why Sailer likes LOR. It begins in Hobbitland with grass so green it could be used as a golf course.

SSPL: stuff Sailer the Plunger Likes.

Lord of the swings.

8/22/12, 7:12 AM

Anonymous astorian said...

I never understood why so many women made such a fuss about Augusta National.

Oh, I understand PERFECTLY why so many women have fought to get into lesser clubs. After all, a LOT of big sales and big business deals get done over a round of golf and a few drinks at the 19th hole. So, a young female sales or marketing executive who can’t become a member of a good country club would be at a huge disadvantage relative to her male peers.

Bottom line: women generally don’t fight to get into country clubs because they loive golf. They fight because they believe, with some justice, that getting into exclusive clubs is a good career move.

I get that. All well and good. But… Augusta National is different. NO young, unknown marketing executive, male OR female, has ever been accepted as a member of Augusta National, unless he had some important connections. Membership at Augusta National is NOT a first step toward wealth and success- it’s a reward for people who are ALREADY on top of the heap!

I mean, how much higher could Condi Rice possibly go in her field? She’s already held the most important post in the Cabinet! And Darla Moore is already swimming in money- how much better could she possibly do, now that she gets to wear a green jacket?

It’s fine by me if Augusta National gives a membership to, say, Sandra Day O’Connor or Pepsi CEO Indra Nooyi. But realistically, could membership really advance either woman’s career at this point?

8/22/12, 7:17 AM

Anonymous Anonymous said...

http://mylife24fps.blogspot.com/2012/08/rhapsodies-in-august-boozy-brunch-on.html

SWEL?

Stuff White Elites Like?

8/22/12, 8:09 AM

Anonymous Kylie said...

"some men's only clubs never allow women on the premises at all, except maybe one day each December to shop in the clubhouse for gifts for their menfolk."

Too bad they couldn't do their shopping by catalogue instead.

"What's the story behind all this?"

They caved.

8/22/12, 8:47 AM

Anonymous Anonymous said...

Steve - Burning Tree in suburban MD is an example of a club that only admits women on the property 1-2 days per year. Lots of politician members, though as usual they get a pass for the thoughtcrimes that require punishment for others.

There are still a few all-male clubs in California believe it or not. They unfortunately can't take any outside income however. As such some spectacular courses such as Cypress Point and the California Golf Club no longer host USGA events. I'm sure the CA Supreme Court will eventually get around to rooting out these bastions of H8 and intolerance. Somebody somewhere is minding their own business? This must be stopped!

8/22/12, 8:52 AM

Anonymous Anonymous said...

OT:

Bartolo Colon suspended 50 games for positive test

http://news.yahoo.com/bartolo-colon-suspended-50-games-positive-test-173546600--mlb.html

*Note that Colon is one of those wild Latin American style baseball players who chucks mainly fastballs

8/22/12, 1:05 PM

Anonymous mel belli said...

I wonder about your assertion that women weren't commonly excluded from golf clubs. In San Francisco, the Olympic Club got its first woman member in 1995.
She was a prominent Jewish trial lawyer. Just across Lake Merced, the uber-exclusive San Francisco Golf Club, the wives are still only allowed to play on Thursdays, and Sunday afternoons.

8/22/12, 1:47 PM

Blogger Steve Sailer said...

"As such some spectacular courses such as Cypress Point and the California Golf Club no longer host USGA events"

Condi is also a member at Cypress Point, the world's most beautiful course, so they ought to be able to go back to hosting one day of the PGA tournament at Pebble Beach like they used to before Shoal Creek so all us hoi polloi could walk Cypress Point once in our lives, but I doubt if they will bother.

8/22/12, 2:56 PM

Blogger Steve Sailer said...

"Membership at Augusta National is NOT a first step toward wealth and success- it’s a reward for people who are ALREADY on top of the heap!"

Right, Condi Rice is already a member at Shoal Creek, a nationally prestigious course, and at Cypress Point, which is unworldly beautiful, and more exclusive than Augusta National.

8/22/12, 3:01 PM

Anonymous cecilhenry said...

Big mistake Augusta.

Freedom means having YOUR standards, and choosing to stick to them despite the envy and manipulation of others.


Big mistake.

Envy know no bounds. The last 40 years of PC show that to be true.

8/22/12, 4:25 PM

Anonymous Anonymous said...

I mean, how much higher could Condi Rice possibly go in her field? She’s already held the most important post in the Cabinet! And Darla Moore is already swimming in money- how much better could she possibly do, now that she gets to wear a green jacket?

Martha Burk wasn't rich enough then. Or now!

8/22/12, 4:46 PM

Anonymous Anonymous said...

Augusta National is to aspirational Gentile corporate executives what Harvard is to ambitious high-school students.

This would've been stronger if you'd repeated "aspirational" instead of switching it out for "ambitious."

Don't be led astray by the myth that the same word should not be used twice in the same sentence.

8/22/12, 5:00 PM

Anonymous Anonymous said...

I wonder about your assertion that women weren't commonly excluded from golf clubs. In San Francisco, the Olympic Club got its first woman member in 1995.

And it only took 17 years from that cave to get to host the US Open once more! We can look forward to an Open at Cypress Point maybe for the 150th, circa 2050 or so.

8/22/12, 5:02 PM

Anonymous Anonymous said...


Many country clubs allowed women to play at certain times but they couldn't be members and couldn't play on Sat or Sunday morning.

That's what my dad's modest private club was like.

8/22/12, 5:19 PM

Anonymous Anonymous said...


"She was a prominent Jewish trial lawyer. Just across Lake Merced, the uber-exclusive San Francisco Golf Club, the wives are still only allowed to play on Thursdays, and Sunday afternoons."

I read that the members at Olympic work for the members at San Francisco.

8/22/12, 5:28 PM

Anonymous Anonymous said...

I wonder if the future will hold Muslim golf courses and clubs, barring unbelievers, women, and dogs.

8/22/12, 5:40 PM

Anonymous Anonymous said...

Hale Rains -or maybe his ghost - must be very happy. I wish Augusta had invited Ann Coulter or Phyllis Schlafly.

8/22/12, 7:17 PM

Anonymous Anonymous said...

I read that the members at Olympic work for the members at San Francisco.

The more accurate measure of Northern California exclusivity and pecking order is that members of the Bohemian Club (of Bohemian Grove fame) are thought to be the movers and shakers, but in fact they work for the members of the Pacific-Union Club (at the top of Nob Hill).

Naturally, the Bohemians are said to be wavering on the male-only question, while P-U has no such lack of faith. Not that any women would qualify: to join Pacific-Union you have to not just run a major corporation or bank, you have to own a substantial chunk of it. And I think even Marissa Mayer doesn't have that beyond the usual sweet bunch of stock options.

8/22/12, 7:27 PM

Anonymous amiable duffer said...

The Augusta monomania of 2002 was a thing to behold. It was sort of like an example from high school American civ. class, of yellow journalism employed by Hearst or whomever in the service of some forgotten cause, brought to life. There was a good issue in Golf Digest the next year with various contributions on the theme, including Camille Paglia and Joe Klein and also one from Christopher Hitchens entitled "Golf is a man's game"

8/22/12, 8:34 PM

Anonymous Anonymous said...

"Many country clubs allowed women to play at certain times but they couldn't be members and couldn't play on Sat or Sunday morning.

"That's what my dad's modest private club was like."

It's still this way at many private golf courses up and down the Central Valley of CA. I play as a guest at my friend's course, a typical Valley course (flat ...so to make things difficult the courses are long and have lots of traps guarding fairly fast greens with false fronts and greens that slope down from the middle to the back)and women are still not members nor do they get the prime tee times on weekends.

It used to bother me--no longer.

8/22/12, 8:37 PM

Anonymous Anonymous said...

Hello? Most women under the age of 45 don't give a shit about golf. If they care about a "sport" its usually Tennis or something more athletic that allows them to look good and stay in shape.

Most women under 45 have no desire to join a 'club' and spend 6 hours hitting a golf ball.

8/22/12, 9:10 PM

Anonymous DaveinHackensack said...

Now Condi Rice will finally be able to network her way into the corridors of power.

8/23/12, 1:22 PM

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