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"The Hitch on Michelle Obama"

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Anonymous Lucius Vorenus said...

Barack Hussein Obama Jr: "If [black] nationalism could create a strong and effective insularity, deliver on its promise of self-respect, then the hurt it might cause well-meaning whites, or the inner turmoil it caused people like me, would be of little consequence."

If nationalism could deliver. As it turned out, questions of effectiveness and not sentiment, caused most of my quarrels with Rafiq [a Black Muslim ally].


Steve Sailer: After a discussion of the failure of the Nation of Islam's attempts to sell black-only toothpaste and other consumer products, Obama rejects Farrakhanism as being unable to "create a strong and effective insularity."

Uh, correct me if I'm getting the wrong impression here, but isn't BHOJr rejecting black nationalism & Farrakhanism because they were insufficiently insular and unable to deliver and ineffective, with the implication being that if that had been more "insular" and more able "to deliver" and more "effective", then he would have happily adopted these positions?

Does BHOJr ever come out and declare any of these ideologies to be wrong [in and of themselves], not to mention inherently evil in nature?

5/5/08, 6:58 PM

Anonymous Anonymous said...

This underscores the problem with Obama. He's a consequentialist, as are many leftists. It informs his opinion on Black Nationalism, on his relationship with Ayers, and on partial-birth abortion just to name a few.

5/5/08, 7:04 PM

Blogger Concerned said...

I don't like Michelle Obama much, but hanging Wright around her like a necklace is totally unfair. According to his book he began seeing Michelle five years AFTER he joined Trinity.

Hitch, like a lot of drunken Englishmen, has female trouble.

5/5/08, 7:10 PM

Anonymous Anonymous said...

Does this mean Chris has been reading your stuff again.

Hi Chris if you are reading this, go on you can tell us, we are all mates here, we wont tell anyone, promise ;)

5/5/08, 7:16 PM

Anonymous Anonymous said...

Does this mean Chris has been reading your stuff again.

Hi Chris if you are reading this, go on you can tell us, we're all mates here, we wont tell anyone, promise ;)

5/5/08, 7:17 PM

Anonymous Sideways said...

It seems entirely plausible that Obama joined the church for political advantage, met Michelle, got into IL congress, US Senate, decided to go for president, decided at some point to drop Wright from his ticket, but Michelle wouldn't let him until it became a political disaster for him.

No evidence, but it's very believable

5/5/08, 8:05 PM

Anonymous Anonymous said...

i think hitchens reads sailer for ideas. i also think hitchens does not have the balls to credit sailer for anything.

5/5/08, 8:14 PM

Blogger Thrasymachus said...

I don't think Michelle has anything to do with it. Blaming Michelle is a way for liberals to maintain a awestruck view of BO, by placing the responsibility for the Wright fiasco on someone else.

But the explanation is very typical and fits easily with liberal thinking. BO doesn't believe any of that Farrakhan/Wright crap, he's too smart for that. *But*, he thinks it's fine if other people believe it. This is because for liberals reality is subjective. What is true depends on your personal experience (assuming you're a woman or a minority of course, a white man is by definition wrong.)

And the problem comes up because BO, like other liberals, can't understand why anyone has a problem with this. If Wright thinks the government created AIDS to destroy blacks, we need to accept that because due to white oppression, blacks are going to believe bad things about whites. We are not to change that belief by pointing to objective reality, but by providing blacks with benefits until they believe in the benificence of whites, and then blacks will stop believing bad things about whites.

5/5/08, 9:21 PM

Anonymous Anonymous said...

But the explanation is very typical and fits easily with liberal thinking. BO doesn't believe any of that Farrakhan/Wright crap, he's too smart for that. *But*, he thinks it's fine if other people believe it.

Well whatever he doesn't believe it's fair to say that what he does believe is some of the most radical ideology we've ever seen in a poltician with a fair shot at the White House. Everything about his past, about the people he's embraced, and even down to his DNA (the radical politics of his father, his mother, and his mother's father) seems to point to that.

Obama doesn't strike me as the Bill Clinton type - the guy doesn't seem to want political power merely out of pure ambition. He seems to have a real ideological axe to grind.

5/6/08, 1:16 AM

Anonymous simon newman said...

This "Obama's a moderate, it's his racist wife who's bad!" meme really sucks.

It's viciously unfair on Michelle to claim that she's the evil influence on Barack - she seems a nasty piece of work, but Obama chose her *because* of his own racist views. If Wright and Michelle weren't nasty pieces of work, Obama would never have associated with them in the first place.

5/6/08, 4:12 AM

Anonymous Udolpho said...

If Obama is really a radical at heart (he is definitely not a Clintonian triangulator) then we are in luck, because he will preside over an utterly failed single term administration that will set back progressive causes for a generation.

Also looking forward to the spectacle of blacks on election day who, win or lose, will probably behave true to form.

5/6/08, 8:34 AM

Blogger Concerned said...

I think that gradually the cloudy picture on Obama is becoming clear. He's just a corrupt Chicago machine pol. Michelle is the daughter of a machine worker (two, actually, but her daddy was a precinct captain), Wright is a machine beneficiary, Ayers is part of the machine, and so on and so forth until the end of time and the sun becomes a dwarf star and implodes.

We're doing a lot of psychologizing here, but I think that's the real story: Obama is just a machine hack with a kind-of interesting life history.

5/6/08, 9:15 AM

Anonymous Josh said...

I would point out that Hitchens couldnt carry Sailers jockstrap--but why belabor the obvious? :) They would prob get along well if they met--have they? :) Anyway,AIDS has been somewhat of an albatross for Obama.(Remember the Monty Python skit where the guy was selling albatross in the theatre? "Albatross!!Albatross!!" :) )Recall his African trip where he had to confront Mbeke about his cockamammie AIDS cures,and had to take several AIDS tests to inspire the locals. Its impossible to conceive of Obama taking Jerry's sermons on "AIDS being a government plot" seriously. So why did he stick with him so long? O'B spent his carrer slugging it out in the trenches of Chicago & Illinois politics,making a quixotic run at Senator only to find that due to unforseen circumstances this unknown guy with no money was about to win! He became an overnite sensation.Point? His choices may not be all mapped out strategically.The Wright fiasco is just a big screw up.An ambitious man who suddenly got the chance to join the Big Leagues,he is prob flailing around trying to figure out what to do. He prob thinks,"Let me get elected first,then I'll figure out what to do!"

5/6/08, 9:53 AM

Anonymous Proofreader said...

The only true claim of Obama to sainthood: being married to Michele. A loud, obnoxious professional "soul sister" with a huge chip on her shoulder.
I pity the man.
And sitting through 20 years of demented speeches by reverend Wright could qualify as well.
The things a man has to do in order to prove his blackness!

5/7/08, 11:21 AM

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