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"Thinking like a Somali about ethnicity"

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Anonymous Anonymous said...

I guess your question is a good one if you are interested in furthering the interests of the GOP. I myself would be more interested in questions that could provide answers that might help the working class majority americans.
If you really think that any major institution in america has the working class majority interests at heart, then you are just deluded enough to find success as a mainstream journalist.

4/8/12, 10:21 PM

Anonymous Anonymous said...

Side note :

Steve, take a look at this -

http://www.cnn.com/2012/04/08/us/colorado-libyan-rape-victim/index.html?hpt=hp_c3

I'd love to have your take.

4/8/12, 10:36 PM

Anonymous eh said...

...is there a single Republic operative within the Beltway who ever thinks...

Forgetting for a moment about "goodies" (not to mention 'thinking' and 'Republicans' in the same sentence), and considering Somalis, among others...

Is there anyone who thinks about the perverse reverse incentive system behind asylum seekers and refugees? Meaning the worse you screw up your own, the more likely you are to receive an all expenses paid life in a Nice White Country.

4/8/12, 11:58 PM

Anonymous Daybreaker said...

"For example, is there a single Republic operative within the Beltway who ever thinks about how the current racial/ethnic categories used by the federal government in dispensing goodies drives political behavior and how those categories could be altered for the long-run benefit of the GOP?"

The 8-ball answers: Don't count on it.

4/9/12, 12:04 AM

Anonymous Anonymous said...

BTW Mark Bowden's book (I never got around to seeing the film) is actually as interesting as it's supposed to be. If you can't find a way to embed with a militarized peacekeeping outfit in some war-torn hellhole that's probably the next best way to learn about it.

For an inexpensive yuk check out the "Not to be confused" line atop his Wiki bio.

4/9/12, 12:10 AM

Anonymous sr said...

Off topic, but check it out: the annual famine caused by lack of illegal immigrants to pick the fruit or vegetable of your choice is back!:

http://www.csmonitor.com/World/Americas/2012/0408/As-tide-of-illegal-immigrants-goes-home-will-US-economy-suffer/(page)/2

4/9/12, 12:27 AM

Anonymous Anonymous said...

Interesting stuff Steve, worty of further consideration.

On a similar topic, I've read that Somalia's travails are the delayed reaction of smallpox eradication, an event that allowed Somalia's population to boom 30 or 40 odd years ago.
Basically what we are seeing now is a Malthusian solution - and the fracture plain for a Malthusian struggle for existence happens so often to be ethnicity.
Anyway, my point is really that multi-ethnic staes might possibly be viable in the long-term, but they never but never survive Malthusian crises.

4/9/12, 12:36 AM

Anonymous Anonymous said...

Derbyshire is proof that thinking about underlying racial questions in a cool-headed fashion gets your ass fired.

4/9/12, 2:18 AM

Anonymous Anonymous said...

So how does one redefine race to support the conservative cause? Anyone who is not black is white? You have suggested this in the past. One—not necessarily fatal—consequence of this would be that companies could no longer use 1/3 blood Mestizos, Creoles or South Asians to meet their diversity requirements. In my field we can't pay high enough wages to draw in the coveted IQ 120 blacks.

4/9/12, 4:21 AM

Anonymous Bantam said...

borderline off-topic,

We are shamefully aware of how the legacy of slavery, white privilege and irreducible racisssm prevent the likes of La'Queysha and Ashtray'Von from becoming neurosurgeons or international traders in C10H15N.

Will our Iscariot overseers indulge in some deep soul-searching and somewhat tone down their kind, though justified reprimands after reading this study?

4/9/12, 5:20 AM

Anonymous Anonymous said...

Are all academics in the social sciences so conceptually confused? So if there are changes in the level of ethnic fractionalization over time, as people over generations assimilate, differentiate, amalgamate, break-apart, immigrate and emigrate, then ethnic groups must be given a constructivist understanding? Biological species change over time, but they are not socially constructed, and the same goes for ethnic and racial groups.

4/9/12, 6:03 AM

Anonymous Volksverhetzer said...

Somalians and Gypsies are our best friends, as there is no way even somebody who are a hardcore multikulturalist, can defend the way these groups acts.

With almost all immigrant groups, there is something positive that can be held up, but with the Somalians there is nothing.

Even old dyed in red feminists, see red when Somalian birth-tents come walking down the road, usually with a litter of smaller Somalians following.

4/9/12, 6:27 AM

Anonymous Anonymous said...

Steve,

In case you missed it, the most reliable ethnic group in the Republican fold is the middle class white man. That means that any discussion or study of ethnicity (except to blame white males for everything since the invention of bronze) is doubleplusungood crime think.

No one is going to flush their career based on some hypothetical benefits that probably would not pan out in the author's lifetime.

Of course, someone will eventually study genetics, race, and culture and how they relate to each other. However, that is a long way off. The current crop of academe will need to be retired before any such sea-change will be possible.

TWS

4/9/12, 7:44 AM

Anonymous Anonymous said...

"Is there anyone who thinks about the perverse reverse incentive system behind asylum seekers and refugees?"

What bothers me mre is that a) the people who come as refugees are often every bit as responsible for the mess their country is in as are their oppressors; b) that they often bypass 5-10-50 more suitable countries before arriving to settle as "refugees" in ours; c) they routinely take vacations back to the land of their "oppression"; and d) when the conflict is settled and peace returns they almost never go back.

4/9/12, 8:01 AM

Blogger Luke Lea said...

I second the first comment. Cynical elites manipulate ethnic divisions of the working-class to deny it an effective voice in the political process. Plus it has no friends in the upper class. I'd like to see some of the Ashkenazi elite take up its cause.

4/9/12, 8:14 AM

Anonymous Mr. Anon said...

"Anonymous said...

BTW Mark Bowden's book (I never got around to seeing the film) is actually as interesting as it's supposed to be. If you can't find a way to embed with a militarized peacekeeping outfit in some war-torn hellhole that's probably the next best way to learn about it."

The movie was good too - actually one of the best war movies I have ever seen. Without ever explicitly saying so, it leaves one with the impression that wars of nation-building, especially in black Africa, are utterly futile.

It of course leaves out a lot of what was in the (quite good) book - such as how we allowed our army to be the tool of a UN agenda, and why the Somali warlords were, as a result, not so fond of us.

4/9/12, 10:10 AM

Anonymous Anonymous said...

It is odd that you mentioned Somalis in Lake Wobegon. There has been a large resettlement of Somalis in St. Cloud, Minnesota (about 5,000 in an area of about 100,000 residents) with the fictional Lake Wobegon generated while Garrison Keillor was working a few miles away. Somalis have exerted their influence by claiming to the federal Department of Education that the local school district disproportionately disciplines Somalis. As a result of the settlement, it appears that Somali students will be given special privileges.

4/9/12, 10:15 AM

Anonymous Anonymous said...

My Somalia strategy for the west:

STAY OUT OF SOMALIA! No more 'black hawk down' nonsense.

KEEP SOMALIS OUT OF THE WEST!

Complete disconnect.

4/9/12, 11:35 AM

Anonymous Anonymous said...

I doubt that the structure of the benefits can be altered to support the GOP, especially considering that republicans bear culpability in structuring some of those benefits as they stand today.

Obviously whites would prefer that white taxpayer dollars go to fellow whites, but that isn't particularly workable because we'd also prefer to continue to status seek.

Further the desire to appear race neutral means that the outcome of having spent trillions trying to lift up blacks, and accomplishing nothing for it, must mean that the government can never accomplish any such aim.

4/9/12, 11:53 AM

Anonymous Paul Mendez said...

If you really think that any major institution in america (sic) has the working class majority interests at heart, then you are just deluded enough to find success as a mainstream journalist.

Anonymous defeatism is absolutely the best way to help working class majority "americans."

4/9/12, 1:19 PM

Anonymous eh said...

OT

...the Libyan woman who stormed into Tripoli's Rixos Hotel a little more than a year ago in March, screaming of gang rape by Col.Moammar Gadhafi's thugs ... gained asylum last summer in the United States and found herself a refugee in Denver...

You just knew it.

She doesn't like the food though.

4/9/12, 3:28 PM

Blogger Jehu said...

Want to alter the ethnic categories to benefit the GOP long term?
First, get rid of the Hispanic category entirely. If you can't do that, section it out such that it excludes White People with Spanish Surnames. Make it so you've got to be at least as dark as George Zimmerman to get any diversity bonus points based on being Hispanic/Latino/whatever. When the benefits evaporate, most will self-identify as white.

4/10/12, 3:05 PM

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