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"Todashev buddy Ramzan Kadyrov is the Checheniest Chechen of them all"

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Anonymous Anonymous said...

In one of those pictures, where he's holding a broom, he's coming out of the Kaaba, Islam's holiest site.

Based on his hair coloring one would suspect Russian admixture, but his facial features aren't Slavic at all.

5/23/13, 5:24 PM

Anonymous Anonymous said...

Ramzan Kadyrov doesn't always drink bear, but when he does he drinks Dos Equis.

5/23/13, 5:25 PM

Blogger Luke Lea said...

I didn't realize Sawhill was blogging again. Thanks for the heads up.

5/23/13, 5:27 PM

Blogger sunbeam said...

Except for the fact he is Muslim I'd say he was an Avatar of everything Russian.

They might not be as good at it, and there are a lot more aspects of that culture than this particular one.

But I'd wager that a lot of Russians have a Ramzan inside them just waiting for the money and thug army to come out.

I've been reading your recent Chechen posts off an on. It kind of strikes me that they are not really devout about alcohol, though that might just be a mistaken impression.

Another impression is that Islam doesn't seem to really be the driving force in that culture to me. I'd imagine they would be very similar if they were Russian Orthodox, or still worshiping Pagan Gods. Just seems like what this particular part of the world produces.

5/23/13, 5:36 PM

Anonymous HAR said...

Vice had dinner with this lunatic and it was as crazy as you would think

http://tinyurl.com/c28359g

While we can laugh at this, remember that a million people live under the heel of this psycho. I've always found it strange how it's not nice to make jokes about past atrocities (Holocaust, Stalin, etc.), but no one bats an eye when we laugh at Kadyrov or North Korea, which involves modern suffering on a large scale.

5/23/13, 5:42 PM

Anonymous HAR said...

"Another impression is that Islam doesn't seem to really be the driving force in that culture to me. I'd imagine they would be very similar if they were Russian Orthodox, or still worshiping Pagan Gods. Just seems like what this particular part of the world produces."

I think that being Muslim adds an extra dynamic to their insanity. LIke it motivates 5% of the population to be crazy and fanatical, and other secular guys are forced to keep up to be as masculine. Same with the Pashtos.

Notice how there are no Christian Chechens or Pashtos. WIthout the militant faith, the population mellows out.

Christians in Lebanon fought in the civil war, but over the decades they left the country to the Muslims who could maintain a high level of aggression long term.

5/23/13, 5:46 PM

Anonymous Dave Pinsen said...

William Monahan needs to write a screenplay about Chechens and get it in Martin Scorsese's hands ASAP.

5/23/13, 6:05 PM

Anonymous Anonymous said...

"Except for the fact he is Muslim I'd say he was an Avatar of everything Russian."

Sunbeam, Russians are macho, but in a very different way. Russian machismo is a bit like Texan machismo. Caucasus machismo is like Sicilian machismo squared. There are huge differences between those.

5/23/13, 6:15 PM

Anonymous Anonymous said...

"I don't know what this is"

Steve, I think he's walking out of the Kaaba. The Kaaba is sometimes ceremonially cleaned by foreign dignitaries. That's why he's holding a broom. It's supposed to be a great honor.

5/23/13, 6:24 PM

Blogger Gnosis Sisong said...

Mike Tyson is a good judge of people so that's good enough for me.

5/23/13, 6:25 PM

Blogger Steve Sailer said...

"Russians are macho, but in a very different way."

Awhile ago I looked up the alleged "Putin Palace" on the Black Sea expecting it to be really over the top, but it was actually fairly tasteful in an 18th Century Enlightened Despot sort of way. Frederick the Great would have been okay with it.

5/23/13, 6:50 PM

Anonymous Anonymous said...

If only USA could Lend Lease this guy, our problems would be squared away pronto. I want to see the photo of him riding a girls bike, not with tigers, or AK's.
Although there is that Dukakis moment. Still & all...

5/23/13, 6:51 PM

Blogger Steve Sailer said...

"but no one bats an eye when we laugh at Kadyrov or North Korea, which involves modern suffering on a large scale."

The text of my posting is depressing, so I worked a lot harder on the pictures.

5/23/13, 6:58 PM

Anonymous Anonymous said...

OK, some the differences between the Russian and Caucasus types of machismo:

The peoples of the Caucasus are extended-family oriented in the usual Middle Eastern/Mediterranean way. Blood feuds, extreme jealousy, very controlling behavior with women.

Blood feuds are unheard of among Russians and the ethnic Russian attitude to women is similar to Western attitudes before the spread of feminism in the late 1960s. It's not particularly controlling.

There is a specific type of tackiness that is common to Middle Eastern, Mediterranean and South Asian cultures. Russians find it ridiculous, alien, self-evidently comical. When tackiness is found among Russians, it's more of the country bumpkin variety, not of the gypsy kings/Arabian Nights variety. The peoples of the Caucasus go in for Arabian Nights tackiness.

Russians aren't as egalitarian as Scandinavians or Germans, but they're far more egalitarian than Caucasus natives. The who-does-he-think-he-is instinct does exist among them. Stalin wanted to be worshiped, but that was because he was a Caucasus native. Khruschov, Brezhnev, Gorbachov, Yeltsin were not worshiped, and neither is Putin. Russians find that sort of worship distasteful.

5/23/13, 7:11 PM

Anonymous Anonymous said...

Wow. A party hearty Muslim.
Actually looks like kind of a fun guy. Except,... you know,... the murders and stuff.

5/23/13, 7:15 PM

Blogger Eric said...

Awhile ago I looked up the alleged "Putin Palace" on the Black Sea expecting it to be really over the top, but it was actually fairly tasteful in an 18th Century Enlightened Despot sort of way. Frederick the Great would have been okay with it.

For all that he's a ruthless bastard, Putin is pretty sophisticated, culturally. He's a thug, but he's not just a thug like Kadyrov.

5/23/13, 7:28 PM

Anonymous Harry Baldwin said...

When his sister was detained by the Dagestan police in January 2005, Ramzan and some 150 armed men drove to the Khasavyurt City Police (GOVD) building. According to the city mayor, Kadyrov's men surrounded the GOVD, forcing its duty officers against the wall and assaulted them, after which they left the building with Zulai Kadyrova, "victoriously shooting in the air."

Just once in my life I've got to do something like this.

5/23/13, 7:45 PM

Anonymous as said...

Great photos.

5/23/13, 7:46 PM

Anonymous Dave Pinsen said...

RK is like The Hangover movie series personified.

5/23/13, 8:51 PM

Blogger Whiskey said...

Funny, the guy looks like WWE Wrestler Daniel Bryan. Really.

5/23/13, 10:17 PM

Anonymous rob said...

HAR said...
I've always found it strange how it's not nice to make jokes about past atrocities (Holocaust, Stalin, etc.), but no one bats an eye when we laugh at Kadyrov or North Korea, which involves modern suffering on a large scale.


It's easy to imagine that the past could have been different. The Nazis were a thin layer of crazy over a civilized people. Most modern atrocities are savages being themselves. Anyone running a region full of Chechens who wasn't a Kadyrov clone wouldn't be in power long before a Kadyrov killed him and started being more Checheny. Problem with Chechnya is that it's full of Chechens.

It's not a problem for the Chechens though. Sexual selection gives women the sort of men they want after a few generations. Chechen women might be the happiest on earth. The Chechen men probably aren't as happy and wish they had easier victims than other Chechens.

5/23/13, 10:21 PM

Anonymous hbd chick said...

ramzan kadyrov - the man putin's always wanted to be. (~_^)

5/23/13, 10:26 PM

Blogger Ray Sawhill said...

Great posting. (And many thanks for the mention.)

5/23/13, 10:52 PM

Anonymous Steve Johnson said...

Whiskey said...

"Funny, the guy looks like WWE Wrestler Daniel Bryan. Really."

How does a man who knows so much about comic books and professional wrestling manage to know as much as you've been shown to know about world affairs and history?

Not much of a mystery actually.

5/23/13, 11:15 PM

Anonymous Anonymous said...

During vacations, the rest of us europeans bump into the upwardly mobile russians in the resorts. Quite entertaining; loudmouthed, assertive, prolish yet somewhat traditional. Free buffet? They'll eat it all. The women? Look hot, nothing else matters to them. In a way, i like russians, but from a distance.

It's whites jim, but not as we know it.

5/23/13, 11:16 PM

Anonymous Anonymous said...

I think this is Steve's best post ever. The pictures are brilliant.

5/23/13, 11:39 PM

Anonymous Anonymous said...

Steve, I think you've found your subject. Or maybe the other way around. I'd recommend you turn this into a graphic novel -- sort of a Saileresque Waugh in Abyssinia set in the Caucuses -- except that might be dangerous, given how other writers covering Kadyrov have fared.

What I want to know is this: given how small and Checheny Chechnya is, why hasn't he found Doku Umarov, Russia's Bin Laden? Or maybe he's in Abbottabod, too.

5/24/13, 12:52 AM

Blogger Steve Sailer said...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dokka_Umarov

Maybe Ramzan's been too busy with monster trucks and Instagram to catch him?

5/24/13, 1:03 AM

Blogger TontoBubbaGoldstein said...

"I don't know what this is"

*With apologies to The Talking Heads and/or Weird Al....*



You may ask yourself...
Why the blue suit?

You may ask yourself...
WTF's up with the broom?

You may find yourself...
On the steps
Of a shrine
With a meteorite
In a small desert town
In the middle of Arabia.....

............................

Hajj or pilgrimage....
Once in a lifetime...

5/24/13, 5:21 AM

Anonymous Anonymous said...

Steve, take care - don't piss this guy off. Drawing the ire of bookish Jews is one thing (in 2013), drawing the ire of crazy, journalist-killing tinpot dictators is another. Leave that to your anonymous commentators.

In some respects, one wonders if a place like Chechnya can be ruled by anyone other than someone like RK with his death squads. And if not, should we care? A more strait laced Georgian type like Stalin would not host the crass orgies that RK appears to indulge in, but the execution of anyone who could possibly pose a threat to his regime is a common thread of the few leaders I know from around those parts.

The overriding point is - why invite crazies into your country? What do we owe them?

5/24/13, 6:44 AM

Anonymous DPG said...

Word has it that they were going to cast Ramzan as the next Bond villain, but test audiences found him "too unbelievable."

Said one viewer: "the guy waves around a golden gun, hangs a picture of Vladimir Putin proudly, and forces women to wear Burkas. I mean, come on, nobody like that exists."

5/24/13, 8:07 AM

Anonymous Mr. Anon said...

What were Jean-Claude van Damme and Hillary Swank doing at the tyrants Birthday party? Why is Elizabeth Hurley petting kittens with him? These idiots should be as ashamed of themselves as all the liberal dictator jock sniffers (Sean Penn, Oliver Stone, Steven Spielberg, etc.) who pay homage to Castro.

5/24/13, 11:13 AM

Blogger Gnosis Sisong said...

Steve: Are we all going to ignore the elephant in the room or are we going to deal with the fact that Kadyrov knows MISTER STEVEN SEAGAL!!!!!!

5/24/13, 1:55 PM

Blogger sunbeam said...

Mr. Anon said:

"What were Jean-Claude van Damme and Hillary Swank doing at the tyrants Birthday party? Why is Elizabeth Hurley petting kittens with him? These idiots should be as ashamed of themselves as all the liberal dictator jock sniffers (Sean Penn, Oliver Stone, Steven Spielberg, etc.) who pay homage to Castro."

Usually it is because they get paid to.

There is another reason I think, publicity. No publicity is bad publicity.

Look, I'm not a muslim, not making apologies for these guys, and it is not an impression of America unique to these two brothers, or the Sudanese girl.

The true religious faith of America is money. Consumerism is the religion. In Mammon We Trust.

These guys will get some green to show up at his birthday parties. Or they will get rewarded with a juicy photo that will run in the tabloids. If they play their cards right they will get face time on tv, talking about their "controversial trip to {insert someplace here}."

Kind of like all those starlets who were forgetting to wear underwear in public for a while, till that fad ran it's course. I kind of expect ol' Lindsay to roll out the muff shot any day now, her career (and boobs) are getting kinda long in the tooth.

Get your name going enough, and you will make it to heaven. Famous for being famous. Know what's better than being a patriotic nobody no one is hiring for roles? An edgy iconoclast who travels in interesting circles.

Put me in Iron Man, baby.

See it's all a gag. And it works because we are not a serious people, and we go along with the gag.

5/24/13, 2:02 PM

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