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"A high school coaching job, like insanity, is hereditary: You get it from your kids."

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Anonymous Anonymous said...

The first title 'reverse heredity' was much better and wittier.

10/8/09, 1:24 AM

Anonymous Gil said...

Just like sterility - it's hereditary.

10/8/09, 4:22 AM

Blogger GMR said...

Having dad as coach means the player probably didn't come from a father-less house.

10/8/09, 5:00 AM

Anonymous Anonymous said...

Great article, Steve. Also great online magazine! I wasn't aware of it before. A lot of bright writers on that crew. I'm bookmarking it.

10/8/09, 7:47 AM

Anonymous Anonymous said...

Look, we talk a lot about nature on this site, but if you think that nurture isn't important, then you're nuts.

Johann Sebastian Bach was taught violin and harpsichord by his father, and in turn supervised the musical education of his twenty [TWENTY!!!] children [ten of whom survived to adulthood].

Mozart & Beethoven were both groomed by their fathers - from a very young age - to be the men they grew up to be.

John Tukey [like Thomas Edison] was home-schooled by his mother.

Glenn Gould was taught the piano by his mother.

Homeschooled children dominate the National Spelling Bee & the National Geographic Bee.

You could go on and on and on in this vein almost forever.

10/8/09, 9:40 AM

Anonymous Anonymous said...

It isn't working out at CU (univ of Colorado). Hawkins was crazy to hire his kid as QB.

10/8/09, 10:07 AM

Anonymous Anonymous said...

Weird you mention it, here in AZ the Show Low QB just set the state record for passing touchdowns in the game, and yup, strangely enough, daddy was the coach.

Very bad form, I would say, to have the 1st string QB tossing fourth quarter TDs in a blowout win, don't you think?

Daddy/Coach's publicly stated logic: "We were going to score whether we passed it or ran it, and we needed to work on the passing game." What a jackass.

10/8/09, 10:07 AM

Anonymous Andrea the Ruthless said...

There's probably some truth to this, but keep in mind that many great black athletes come from single-mother families. And, I don't think Felix Gomez or Eugene Nguyen is going to become a NFL running back even if his great-grandfather, grandfather, and father are his highschool and college coaches.

10/8/09, 10:34 AM

OpenID ironrailsironweights said...

Boxers who have their fathers as their cornermen, a fairly common practice especially at the lower levels, are said to be at increased risk of serious injury or even death. Allegedly, at least; I wouldn't imagine there have been any statistical studies. When a boxer is way overmatched and is taking a beating, an unrelated cornerman is more likely to keep him from going out for the next round, or might (literally) throw in the towel, while Dad is more likely to urge his son to try and tough it out.

Peter

10/8/09, 10:58 AM

Anonymous Anonymous said...

Good post Steve-O, as is the preceding one.

10/8/09, 1:35 PM

Anonymous Svigor said...

Look, we talk a lot about nature on this site, but if you think that nurture isn't important, then you're nuts.

So true. Trouble (okay, one trouble among many) is that humans are avid flexible strategizers so they tend to equalize nurture to the extent they can, ultimately tending towards making nurture a proxy for nature.

10/8/09, 2:35 PM

Anonymous Anonymous said...

Off topic, but a piece of African-American "art" from 1963 that the Obamas chose to display in the White House turns out to have been a plagiarism of a 1953 piece by Henri Matisse.

10/8/09, 4:35 PM

Anonymous Anonymous said...

OT

Seems like The Black Party is at a loss.....

Fight At Fenger While Officials Discuss Violence
Activists Say Violence Against Students Spiked After School Plan Started



CHICAGO (CBS) U.S. Education Secretary Arne Duncan arrives at the Four Seasons Hotel, 120 E. Delaware Pl., for a discussion on combatting violence among Chicago youth.

President Barack Obama was so shocked by the deadly
beating of a Fenger High School student that he dispatched two members of his cabinet to address the problem.

But on the day Attorney General Eric Holder and Education Secretary Arne Duncan met with local officials to discuss youth violence, there was another fight at Fenger.

10/8/09, 7:42 PM

Blogger AmericanGoy said...

Sorry Steve-o, but...

"Any teenager who will listen to his father will listen to any adult male authority figure."

What bull crap.

Reminds me of these dime-a-dozen studies that those wacky useless college nerds do.

One day tomatoes are good for you, next they are cancer central.

Am I reading Cosmo here?

What happened to the Steve-o who wrote about the housing bubble?

Siiiiigh...

This is depressing enough to make me update my silly lil' blog.

10/8/09, 9:03 PM

Anonymous Anonymous said...

From the Fenger article:

"They was fighting," one girl said.

The quote was completely unnecessary. Is the reporter trying to hint at something?

10/8/09, 10:35 PM

Anonymous Anonymous said...

Good lord, the quotes from that Fenger article are telling:

"I think they should have come out this way instead of downtown because this is where it's happening at out here"

"Some boys they got off the bus fighting and that. Then the police came over there breaking up the fight."

"I try and avoid the problem by walking and they chase me. The police not doing nothing. They sit out there and they watch people get chased."

"Before I went to this community school (Fenger), I didn't have no fights, no nothing; until I went outside the (Altgeld Gardens) community"

Anyone wanna take bets on whether the boy who made that last statement knows what a semicolon is?

10/8/09, 10:40 PM

Anonymous Anonymous said...

"Seems like The Black Party is at a loss.....

Fight At Fenger While Officials Discuss Violence
Activists Say Violence Against Students Spiked After School Plan Started"


Yeah, I checked out that link.

The sidebar had thumbnail pics to click on for slide show stories.

Top to bottom:

1. Pic of black teen murder victim, caption death sparks outrage.

2. Pic of white man with a caption about Chicago's criminals.

3. Pic of fruit with caption about risky foods.

4. Pic of dog with a list of smartest/dumbest breeds.

5 - 10 Celebrities and gossip.


No I am not making this up.

10/8/09, 11:19 PM

Anonymous Chris said...

did i hit my head or did obama just get a nobel?

10/9/09, 2:35 AM

Anonymous nueez said...

What the hell? It was funny as a joke but they went and did it! Then again, considering the history of this particular prize, the Obama win isn't really all that egregious. Compared to Maathai, Carter, El-Baradei and Gore, Obama's quite a worthy winner. Heck, compared to Arafat, Timothy McVeigh is worthy.

The other day I fantasized about the science Nobel choosers going on strike until the current regime of Peace Prize choosers was purged. Maybe I didn't dream hard enough.

Seriously though, couldn't the committee hold it in until Obama actually did something?

10/9/09, 3:19 AM

Anonymous Anonymous said...

"Before I went to this community school (Fenger), I didn't have no fights, no nothing; until I went outside the (Altgeld Gardens) community"

Anyone wanna take bets on whether the boy who made that last statement knows what a semicolon is?

10/08/2009



That kid is the brother of the kid that was killed (or "kilt", in their English). He has been arrest numerous times.

10/9/09, 8:55 AM

Anonymous Anonymous said...

No I am not making this up.

10/08/2009



Welcome to the Chicago Media.

10/9/09, 8:55 AM

Anonymous Anonymous said...

It's probably because having your father be the coach is the only way a white player can get a starting spot at a skill position these days.

10/9/09, 3:28 PM

Anonymous ben tillman said...

It's not football, but this thread wouldn't be complete without mention of Pete and Press Maravich. Pete went to my high school but wound up at LSU when his dad was hired to coacn there.

10/13/09, 5:40 AM

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