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"NYT: American nativism and a too slow path to citizenship denied Tamerlan his American Dream, turning him into a terrorist"

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Anonymous Hunsdon said...

Sontag, Herszenhorn and Kovaleski. What?

4/27/13, 2:48 PM

Anonymous Anonymous said...

I think I know what Jews are up to. They really don't want more Chechens/Muslims either, but they don't want to seem 'xenophobic'. So, even as they make grumbling PC noises, they really won't resist Republican-led measures to curtail immigration from Muslim areas, and of course, SUCH restrictions are already in place.

So, libs speak loud enough to take moral credit but not loud enough to ensure massive Muslim immigration to the US.

Same thing with racial profiling in NY. Libs speak up about it loudly enough to seem conscientious but not loudly enough to bring an end to it.

It's like what cons are now doing with 'gay marriage'. Loudly enough to maintain cred as conservatives but not loudly enough to lead the fight against it.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TggLQHVcV_U

4/27/13, 3:15 PM

Anonymous Anonymous said...

Sontag, Herszenhorn and Kovaleski. What?

Don't leave out the landlord, Joanna Herlihy.

“He certainly wasn’t radicalized in Dagestan,” she said.

4/27/13, 3:19 PM

Anonymous Anonymous said...

One phrase reverberated through my head as I read that article: "none dare call it treason."

4/27/13, 3:22 PM

Anonymous jhaj said...

This is disgusting.. I have had several people tell me that the terrorists were "Russians", and then express surprise when i tell them they were muslims.

4/27/13, 3:24 PM

Anonymous Anonymous said...

The facts in this article actually highlight the economic destruction that immigration has wrought upon the men of our country. Ironically, Tamerlan and his father were victims of immigration as well. This is really a story about the massive labor oversupply in our country, the lack of dignified and self-sustaining work opportunities that has resulted from it, and about how immigrants are squeezing people out of their own habitat.

It is more plausible to argue that mass immigration was the cause of Tamerlan's violent act--because it depressed economic opportunities for his father as it has for all Americans--than to argue that immigration restriction was the cause.

Exhibit A (Tamerlan): [Tamerlan] worked only sporadically, sometimes as a pizza deliverer, and he grew first a close-cropped beard and then a flowing one.

Exhibit B (the Father): But then the father’s life had not gone as planned, either. Once an official in the prosecutor’s office in Kyrgyzstan, he had been reduced to working as an unlicensed mechanic in the back lot of a rug store in Cambridge.

Exhibit C (More evidence as to harm to other American men): So Mr. Tsarnaev, New England heavyweight champion for the second year in a row, was stymied. The immigrant champions in three other weight classes in New England were blocked from advancing, too, Mr. Russo said. [Immigrants who had robbed Americans of athletic glory in their own country.]

4/27/13, 3:31 PM

Anonymous Chicago said...

He lashed out because his boxing career was thwarted? Such nonsense. Nothing stopped him from turning professional if that was what he wanted, citizen or not. He was already getting a little old to be in the amateurs; if he was going to turn pro he would've needed to do so right about the point at which he stopped, about age 24 or earlier like around 21. He just didn't have what it took, despite his grandiose illusions. So the big strong heavyweight fighter couldn't even hold a regular job, or didn't want to. Sounds like they're trying to humanize him but in the end he comes off as an arrogant jerk.

4/27/13, 3:33 PM

Anonymous Anonymous said...

Hashashins would often assimilate themselves in the towns and regions of their targets and, over time, stealthily insert themselves into strategic positions.

Immigration--a cautionary tale.

4/27/13, 3:49 PM

Anonymous Anonymous said...

Not surprised that the NYT would come out up with this excuse, a pathetic excuse. If a non citizen living in America decides to bomb a marathon just because he is not allowed to box, then he should never have given citizenship, only the most lunatic left winger could ever think otherwise.

4/27/13, 3:52 PM

Anonymous Anonymous said...

Hector Torres at it again?!

4/27/13, 4:06 PM

Anonymous Podsnap said...

Because we all know that when girlfriends eventually drop charges of domestic violence it's because they were lying from the get-go. We can't have fanatical feminist theories about abuse standing in the way of immigrants getting citizenship, now can we?

In the hierarchy of victimhood race trumps gender.

The cocksure fighter, a flamboyant dresser partial to white fur and snakeskin, had been looking forward to redeeming the loss he suffered the previous year in the first round, when the judges awarded his opponent the decision, drawing boos from spectators who considered Mr. Tsarnaev dominant.

What about this decision ? I'd like to know a bit more about these judges - possibly raaaacist ? There was booing in the crowd so there must have been something fishy going on...

4/27/13, 4:16 PM

Anonymous Anonymous said...

Correction to 3:31 pm anonymous post:

It is more plausible to argue that mass immigration was the cause of Tamerlan's violent act--because it depressed economic opportunities for TAMERLAN AND his father as it has for all Americans--than to argue that immigration restriction was the cause.

Bottom line is that there is a good chance Tamerlan wouldn't have done this is the job opportunities in America weren't, for so many men, so miserable.

4/27/13, 5:17 PM

Anonymous Anonymous said...

Sontag, Herszenhorn and Kovaleski. What?

And Herlihy!

4/27/13, 5:18 PM

Anonymous Anonymous said...

The family I grew up in probably would have qualified for reduced price or free lunches and food stamps nowadays - 4 kids, father a truck driver who got laid off occasionally. We had peanut butter sandwiches for lunch every day. I still love peanut butter. The family next door to us lived in the rented basement and the dad worked 2 jobs.

Tamerlan was a monster so its hard to say that the welfare mooching is at the root of the problem with him but it sure sticks out like a sore thumb that he was a typical low-character welfare moocher.

4/27/13, 5:35 PM

Blogger Dennis Dale said...

Have you no sense of decency, Gray Lady? At long last, have you left no sense of decency?

If the guy had any real future in boxing twenty-three with an extensive amateur record means he's already running late to go pro.

Despite having worked hard to succeed in the Golden Gloves, once that was over he settled in to put the mother of his toddler out to work--so the guy wasn't so much lazy as he was disdainful of honest work and fond of fighting. So he fits the Checheny pattern of being not so much lazy as disdainful of honest work and fond of fighting.
And then there's the woman-beating.

I wonder if it troubles Ms Sontag et al, betraying their putative feminism so openly?
You know they ignore the stereotypical behavior of the who with the same rigor they seek to highlight that of the whom, even if it's ambiguous.
If it was a working class white Christian with a similar history they would be painting us a picture of a loser made resentful by his failures, blaming everybody but himself.

4/27/13, 5:41 PM

Anonymous Anonymous said...

So Mr. Tsarnaev, New England heavyweight champion for the second year in a row, was stymied. The immigrant champions in three other weight classes in New England were blocked from advancing, too, Mr. Russo said.

Mr. Tsarnaev was devastated.


According to whom? Does the NYT have any source at all for this claim as to Tsarnoff's mental state?

The previous summer, Mr. Tsarnaev had been arrested after a report of domestic violence.

So by the Times own reporting, Tamerlan's "issues" actually began before he became ineligible for the tournament.

4/27/13, 5:46 PM

Anonymous Anonymous said...

If it was a working class white Christian with a similar history they would be painting us a picture of a loser made resentful by his failures, blaming everybody but himself.

Yep. This could easily have been spun in that manner. Another narrative, noted by a commenter above, is that Tamerlan was a victim of the poor job prospects and growing economic inequality that is facing many men in the United States.

4/27/13, 5:59 PM

Anonymous Anonymous said...

Tamerlan was a monster so its hard to say that the welfare mooching is at the root of the problem with him but it sure sticks out like a sore thumb that he was a typical low-character welfare moocher.

Times have changed. Is there any longer such a person as a welfare moocher?

4/27/13, 6:01 PM

Anonymous Anonymous said...

If we don't give in to every demand of macho pothead Muslim refugees then the terrorists will have won

4/27/13, 6:39 PM

Blogger Jeremiah Wrong said...

BARF

4/27/13, 6:44 PM

Blogger Whiskey said...

Women love wife/girlfriend beaters as long as they are dominant. See Chris Brown. Tamerlan. Heck the Fifty Shades of Grey hero.

The FT has an editorial by Chris Caldwell, noting how one academic wants either all the Third World to be sent to the First World, or every "unfair" Middle/Working class person who is White to send money to the Third World. Because its unfair or something. And who do you think is going to be the middleman?

Its a scam. Nothing more. Nothing less. The whole point is to recreate the dream society of the elites (and most women) -- an aristocratic society of hereditary privilege. It goes over like Disney Princesses and Dan Brown.

4/27/13, 7:04 PM

Anonymous Victor said...

If only Hitler had gotten into art school. Those art teachers are responsible for the war.

4/27/13, 8:29 PM

Anonymous Auntie Analogue said...


Tamerlan, according to the New York Times: "[A] flamboyant dresser partial to white fur and snakeskin." Nice threads to be "partial to" when you're living off the American taxpayers' welfare gravy train and living off your airhead convert-to-Islam wife's 80-hour work week.

"'He certainly wasn’t radicalized in Dagestan,'" said his landlady, who speaks Russian. How does an Irish-surnamed woman come to speak Russian? Is Ms. Herlihy another one of the Russian immigrant women who married a U.S. citizen to scam herself into citizenship? Of course Tamerlan was "radicalized" in Dagestan - he spent the first four-fifths of his life there, getting his head dunked in Islam and Dagestani truculence.

"They say it [disqualification from boxing for lack of U.S. citizenship] led Mr. Tsarnaev, his application for citizenship stalled, and his brother, a new citizen and a seemingly well-adjusted college student, to attack their American hometown on Patriots’ Day." Since when is an American city the "hometown" of anyone foreign-born?

"Why did these two young men seemingly turn on the country that had granted them asylum?" "Seemingly"? Really? Do you New York Times' authors mean to say that this warm fuzzy feeling duo only "seemed" to murder four people? Wouldn't that have been...unseemly?

"His wife primarily supported the family through her job as a home health aide, scraping together about $1,200 a month to pay the rent." Which calls to mind the old folk song: "I Know You Rider gonna miss me when I'm gone."

"The immigrant champions in three other weight classes in New England were blocked from advancing, too." Well, you can have knocked me over with a feather.

"Hector Torres." If he's another illegal immigrant, how many of us would stand in line to have a shot at hectoring Torres right out of our country?

"Mr. Tsarnaev was devastated." - But he wasn't in any way harmed, let alone was he MURDERED.

"The previous summer, Mr. Tsarnaev had been arrested after a report of domestic violence." Found himself locked out of the gym - needed urgently to find a punching bag?

"[C]harges against him would be dismissed....so the episode would not have endangered his eventual citizenship application." So the extraordinary step of dismissing felony assault charges against him to keep him qualified for citizenship proves that we "nativists" are just not welcoming enough doormats for Third Worlders who come here?

Do these New York Times authors have even the slightest clue to how their writing strikes anyone who can THINK?

4/27/13, 8:32 PM

Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous said:I think I know what Jews are up to. They really don't want more Chechens/Muslims either, but they don't want to seem 'xenophobic'. So, even as they make grumbling PC noises, they really won't resist Republican-led measures to curtail immigration from Muslim areas, and of course, SUCH restrictions are already in place.

Yup, you nailed it. Part of what drives this whole mess is the fact that our public policy debate is being driven by people who act like students jostling for their Professor's approval. It's a truly sick competition to see who is the cleverest, most counter intuitive little sycophant.

I am fed up with public "intellectuals" who treat deadly serious, and even existential maters as if they where consequence free opportunities for verbal peacocking. The play acting needs to stop.

-The Judean People's Front

4/27/13, 8:41 PM

Anonymous Anonymous said...

Please note that the American Dream he was stymied in was not of getting a stable job to support his wife and child, it was of becoming a national boxing champion. There are so many jobs, like plumbing eg, that can be done by reasonably able men that there is no excuse, even if he was kept away from the Golden Gloves by overt ethnocentrism or xenophobia, which isn't apparent at all.

4/27/13, 8:51 PM

Blogger rightsaidfred said...

Looks like the NYT has Stockholm Syndrome.

4/27/13, 8:52 PM

Anonymous Anonymous said...

ATTENTION on IMMIGRATION:

Rubio has put up a site asking for comments on how to "improve" the amnesty bill.

Please visit this link and submit your comments. Be reasonable and polite:

http://www.rubio.senate.gov/public/index.cfm/help-us-improve-the-bill?ID=beb53cf6-7c87-4ada-9828-1c3a0b150537#Comments_beb53cf6-7c87-4ada-9828-1c3a0b150537

4/27/13, 9:32 PM

Anonymous Anonymous said...

"The schools superintendent, Jeffrey Young, described Cambridge as “beyond tolerant.”
“How is it that someone could grow up in a place like this and end up in a place like that?” he said of the Tsarnaevs."

Oh my! How can someone come from nowhwere to the center of the universe and not love us? How can you not admire our liberatlity in tolerating you?

Your traditions are awesome - as food for our grad student programs. (Your not supposed to acutally kill people in Cambridge!?!!)

4/27/13, 11:31 PM

Anonymous Anonymous said...

The writers of that piece don't believe a word they're saying--they simply figure there will be libs reading the NYTimes who do.

4/27/13, 11:54 PM

Anonymous Anonymous said...

You're right. NYT is becoming The Onion.

4/28/13, 12:05 AM

Anonymous Podsnap said...

If it was a working class white Christian with a similar history they would be painting us a picture of a loser made resentful by his failures, blaming everybody but himself.

Right. And they would have gone to town on the wife beating.

Imagine what the MSM would make of a Christian sect with the same traits as Islam - they would be portrayed as worse than Fred Phelps.

4/28/13, 1:45 AM

Anonymous Simon in London said...

The NYT - the Fount of Filth.

4/28/13, 2:07 AM

Anonymous Mr. Anon said...

"According to the NYT, if only Tamerlan Tsarnaev had been granted U.S. citizenship faster or if American organizations weren't occasionally prejudiced in favor of American citizens, all the recent unpleasantness could have been avoided."

So those 10-20 million mexican illegal aliens who may, or may not, be put "on a path to citizenship" are all just ticking time-bombs? Sounds like a good reason to deport them all.

4/28/13, 2:54 AM

Anonymous Cail Corishev said...

The immigrant story used to go something like this: Brian O'Shea trades all his belongings for passage in the hold of a ship headed for America. He arrives with little more than the clothes on his back and a piece of paper holding an address. The people at that address -- fellow immigrants from his native country -- put him up while he works at a sweatshop to pay them rent and save up a bit. When he has enough for a train ticket to Chicago and a new suit, he heads halfway across the country. In Chicago, he again makes connections with some fellow immigrants and finds a job at a slaughterhouse. He works long hours and lives as cheaply as possible until he can afford a small apartment of his own and passage across the Atlantic for his wife or childhood sweetheart. Communication with his fatherland is limited to a few letters a year. Eventually, if everything goes well, he's able to settle his family into a working-class lifestyle and work toward providing something better for his children.

Now, keep in mind that we used to be proud of this process -- sweatshops and all. Of course, sometimes it didn't go nearly that well -- families got separated and never united, people drowned on the way over, and so on. Yet we were proud that our ancestors went through such travails and didn't give up (let alone kill some people out of frustration). We even considered those travails to be part of what made them and this country great.

Today the "refugee" arrives on a plane ticket provided by friends at one government department or other. They've also arranged for a job (if he wants one) and made sure he's aware of all the welfare programs and other benefits available to him. Various government and charitable agencies will fight over the opportunity to help him succeed, with English training and other education, and help finding everything from jobs to social opportunities. He lives a middle-class lifestyle at worst, and has plenty of time and money to pursue his hobbies.

Now we, descendants of the guy in the first paragraph, are supposed to feel guilty about the treatment of the guy in the last one? You've gotta be kidding me.

4/28/13, 4:56 AM

Anonymous Anonymous said...

So it seems the lesson here is that if an immigrant finds it more difficult to become a famous athlete in this country than they originally anticipated, it is really society's fault for not bending over backwards to accommodate him. And if the immigrant resorts to terrorism, it is really the fault of society, not the immigrant. Even if the immigrant lived in the very heart of ultra-liberal intellectual America.

That seems to be what this implies, which isn't so strange since the NY Times and liberals in general have been making similar excuses for the very high rate of black criminality since forever. Since society is so "racist", it just makes sense that blacks would have to resort to crime; society is so "xenophobic", if immigrants resort to terrorism as revenge, it makes perfect sense.

But then if this makes perfect sense, why was almost entire left crossing their fingers hoping the Boston terrorist attacks were carried out by white racists or tea-partiers?

4/28/13, 6:31 AM

Anonymous Hunsdon said...

sumdood at 3:19 said: Don't leave out the landlord, Joanna Herlihy.

Hunsdon: Her name sounds more Irish than Scots-Irish. Yes, yes, I know. What?

4/28/13, 6:47 AM

Anonymous Anonymous said...

Can we stop referring to members of this revolting family as 'hot'. What's wrong with you Americans? Django's eyes are too close together, his mother would be hairy as buggery. To hell with the lot of them. The scourge of our age.

4/28/13, 7:23 AM

Anonymous Anonymous said...

@Cail... Immigrants needed a sponser, and couldn´t be dirt poor destitute. Ellis Island was tough too.

Just because immigrants looked bad in their pictures, doesn´t mean they were starving. Look at these Chechens for example, he was healthy enough to become a boxer, even though in their picture they look like they came from the stone age.

4/28/13, 8:11 AM

Blogger Unknown said...

With this article in the Times, I can honestly say we've departed from the ridiculous and officially arrived at insanity.

4/28/13, 8:18 AM

Anonymous Anonymous said...

"Robert De Pacino" is spot on! Hilarious.

4/28/13, 8:34 AM

Anonymous Anonymous said...

Shouldn't 20 million illegals all be setting off bombs?

4/28/13, 8:39 AM

Anonymous David said...

>Sontag, Herszenhorn and Kovaleski. What?<

Nowadays I read the byline first. It saves a great deal of time.

Always ask first, "WHO is telling me x?" Not WHAT is x. Sad way to proceed, but probably the best strategy in this period of post-civilization.

4/28/13, 9:03 AM

Anonymous jody said...

the best young swimmer in the world, vlad morozov, is doing exactly the same thing. a russian citizen who is very close to getting his american citizenship so he can swim for the US at the world championships and olympics. he will definitely, definitely take a spot away from americans once this happens. my brother has talked to him and he's determined to do this, even after swimming for russia at the 2012 olympics and winning a bronze medal in the 400 free relay.

of course he's a good guy, and will graduate from USC with his undergrad degree next year. he's not a muslim or a bomber. if the US decides to not grant him citizenship, he's not going to stop swimming, drift off in life, and eventually turn around and bomb rodeo drive in LA. he'll just keep swimming for russia, and possibly breaking the world record in the 100 meters in a few years.

4/28/13, 9:20 AM

Anonymous jody said...

tamerlan could have turned pro at any time. nothing blocked him from that. and he could have started earning money that way. 500 bucks a match to start. 1000 after that if he wins his first couple.

not enough to live on, but it's a start. once he had won 10 matches he would have moved up to a couple thousand dollars per match, then he would be close to scraping out a living just boxing, if he took 4 matches a year or so. if he had won 15 or 20 matches in a few years, he probably could work his way up to being a contender for a minor belt, matches like that are worth probably 50 grand for the challenger.

very much doubt he was even that good though. he looks like a career circuit pro, making his 5 grand per match a few times a year, if that. he's not at all a potential future contender for a major belt. wladimir klitschko was just offered a purse of 23 million dollars for a match with alexander povetkin. we aren't talking about anywhere near this level of boxing.

he was 24, that's usually the time an amateur who is not one of the best in the world, would already be turning pro. most amateurs who are not gonna be advancing far in the olympic tournament turn pro by 21 or 22.

these days some of the top amateurs in the world will stay amateur all the way to 28 or 29, so they can try to win the world championship or the olympic championship more than once, like roberto cammarelle, who boxed in the olympics 3 times (and was probably robbed of the gold in 2012 by 2 or 3 points thanks to hometown british judging). he is scheduled to make his pro debut this year. he TKO'd david price in the amateurs, who is now 15-1 as a pro and making, oh, at least 200 grand per match in the UK.

anthony joshua, the eventual olympic champion in 2012, is 23, and would normally be turning pro now, but has said he wants to stay amateur until 2016 so he can box in the olympics again, then turn pro.

some of them never turn pro. but most of the really good ones do. maybe tamerlan saw himself as a career amateur, never intending to become professional. and not being allowed to box amateur in the US anymore derailed that goal. i figure he could have tried to box amateur for russia at that point, but he knows he would not have made the team.

4/28/13, 9:52 AM

Anonymous jody said...

speaking of boxers from that area, there is timur ibragimov, and his cousin sultan ibragimov.

timur is the proper name of tamerlane, although timur ibragimov is a turk and not a daegestani. timur boxed for minor belts.

sultan is a daegestani though, and was the better boxer, winning the WBO belt. so there is a history of boxers from the caucasus.

4/28/13, 10:03 AM

Anonymous Bill said...

Because we all know that when girlfriends eventually drop charges of domestic violence it's because they were lying from the get-go. We can't have fanatical feminist theories about abuse standing in the way of immigrants getting citizenship, now can we?

Yeah, pretty ironic given what Sontag has written before. I guess you've got to learn to prioritize when you write for the NY Times.

4/28/13, 12:16 PM

Anonymous Anonymous said...

Nice fighting close in the photo. So why is he wearing capris?

4/28/13, 12:27 PM

Anonymous Anonymous said...

Incredible how the discussion of anything around here slides into ridiculous anti-semitic conspiracy theories almost immediately.

4/28/13, 12:44 PM

Anonymous Anonymous said...

I see there was no comments section for the piece.

4/28/13, 1:18 PM

Anonymous Anonymous said...

As Chris Berman might say,

"WHAT?!?!?!?!?! You gotta be kiddin' me."

Yep. Liberal hillbillies.

4/28/13, 1:28 PM

Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous @ 11:31 said "How can someone come from nowhwere to the center of the universe and not love us?"

Ah, the typical liberal delusion. That everyone loves and wants to be like them, after all, who wouldn't?

More mischief is done because liberals refuse to believe that e.g. blacks, or in this case muslim immigrants, don't really want to be what liberals think they should want to be. It is impossible for a liberal to acknowledge that these guys wanted to do exactly what they did. Or that black people, having gained their "freedom" in 1965 have set about creating just the type of society in their inner cities in which they want to live.

Try to tell a liberal that "Uhhh, black people don't want to be like you. Just listen to the lyrics of their music and you'll see that to them, you're a chump. So all your efforts at reaching out and equality are in vain." and you will be met with vehement denial. It's their core belief.

4/28/13, 1:28 PM

Anonymous E. Rekshun said...

Since Tamerlan's amature boxing career was stymied, and since he was was such a good boxer, then why not turn pro, make a ton of money, live the American Dream, and not blow people up.

4/28/13, 1:47 PM

Anonymous Theory said...

The neocons who run the media may propote immigration in part because they WANT an Islamic terrorist attack so that Americans will invade another one of israel's enemies in the middle east. By constantly obsessing about terrorism in the media they are inspiring copycats.

4/28/13, 2:33 PM

Blogger sysadmn said...

Anyone else here old enough to remember the derision heaped on Jeane Kirkpatrick for saying, "They always blame American first", coining the Blame America First Crowd meme? I guess it still cuts too close.

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2007/03/the_blameamericafirst_crowd.html

4/28/13, 3:36 PM

Anonymous Anonymous said...

I say we blame the art academy for not admitting Hitler. You see, Hitler just felt dejected and sort of lost it. All he wanted was to be accepted by the art community.

And the reason why conservatives are so bitter and angry and won't sign onto the globalist agenda is because too many of them are kept out of elite academia, media, Silicon Valley, Hollywood, and etc.
So, if liberals want conservatives to be happier and less hostile, they should open up the institutions they control to conservatives just like US should open up its borders to all the angry people around the world.

Let me attend Harvard and then be given a job where I rake in million a year, and I'll be a nice liberal.

4/28/13, 3:51 PM

Anonymous Anonymous said...

So, was this older brother a lover of the Southie Irish?

4/28/13, 4:14 PM

Anonymous Anonymous said...

Incredible how the discussion of anything around here slides into ridiculous anti-semitic conspiracy theories almost immediately.

What would you consider a "ridiculous anti-semitic conspiracy theory"?

4/28/13, 4:27 PM

Anonymous Sally said...

The younger brother wrote "free Palestine" on Twitter so he was obviously upset about america's favoritism towards Israel. You won't read that in the NY Times.

4/28/13, 4:56 PM

Anonymous Anonymous said...

"Incredible how the discussion of anything around here slides into ridiculous anti-semitic conspiracy theories almost immediately."

There are literally 1000s of Jewish pundits in the MSM who say what's best for America: unlimited mass immigration and diversity, is the exact opposite of what they think is best for Israel: strict ethno-nationalism.

It's the most blatant conspiracy in history but ironically most white Americans aren't ethno-centric enough to notice.

4/28/13, 5:10 PM

Anonymous Anonymous said...

"the best young swimmer in the world, vlad morozov, is doing exactly the same thing. a russian citizen who is very close to getting his american citizenship so he can swim for the US at the world championships and olympics. he will definitely, definitely take a spot away from americans once this happens."

What is this guy doing here? I am so sick of this country letting all these people in. Everybody just come to America.

We win the cold war and he gets to come here and live in this country and take a spot from an American. Am I supposed to think he represents me?

4/28/13, 5:49 PM

Anonymous Zubeidat said...

There is shoplifting, and then there is Chechen shoplifting:

Before leaving Boston, she was charged with shoplifting more than $1,600 worth of dresses at a Lord & Taylor store in Natick, according to police records.

4/28/13, 6:25 PM

Anonymous Hunsdon said...

Sumdood said: Incredible how the discussion of anything around here slides into ridiculous anti-semitic conspiracy theories almost immediately.

Hunsdon translated: "Shut up," sumdood said.

4/28/13, 6:55 PM

Anonymous alonzo portfolio said...

Well, I see the black physical superiority deniers are out in full force, as usual. Look at that height and reach advantage Tammy had. Boy, you don't see a disparity like that too often. And that black guy doesn't exactly look like he's been doing his roadwork, either. Dave in Hackensack, what say you?

4/29/13, 12:14 PM

Anonymous Anonymous said...

"Well, I see the black physical superiority deniers are out in full force, as usual. Look at that height and reach advantage Tammy had. Boy, you don't see a disparity like that too often. And that black guy doesn't exactly look like he's been doing his roadwork, either. Dave in Hackensack, what say you?"

Racist referee?

4/29/13, 1:57 PM

Anonymous Svigor said...

Well, I see the black physical superiority deniers are out in full force, as usual. Look at that height and reach advantage Tammy had. Boy, you don't see a disparity like that too often. And that black guy doesn't exactly look like he's been doing his roadwork, either. Dave in Hackensack, what say you?

Horses are physically superior to blacks.

4/29/13, 7:48 PM

Blogger Dennis Dale said...

Horses are physically superior to blacks.

Says who?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IlfCLnxtew8

4/30/13, 1:16 AM

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