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"NY Times readers share their fantasies about the Obamas"

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Anonymous Anonymous said...

Oh. My. God.

2/7/09, 3:49 PM

Anonymous Anonymous said...

Wow. The best part:

"Sometimes this sense of close identification turns a bit dark. There’s a subcategory of people who feel that they really should have true intimacy with the Obamas [a menage a trois? Better we didn't know]. Because they went to school with them. Because they used to dream like them. Because, with one or two “different turns,” they maybe could have been them.

These are not the people made most happy by thinking about the Obamas."

And then several paragraphs about people who feel an aching sense of loss because they could have been closer to the Great Man.

I would say this is astonishing except, well, everyone knew this was going on. Seeing it all spewed out in front of me is a bit gross, though.

Would it be too crude to say something in this connection about the American public receiving a very large Stimulus Package from Mr. Obama? I thought so....

2/7/09, 3:55 PM

Anonymous dearieme said...

President Pyjama indeed.

2/7/09, 4:19 PM

Anonymous Anonymous said...

ewwwwwwwww

2/7/09, 5:00 PM

Anonymous Anonymous said...

WTF?!?!?!

I cant even believe what Im reading.

Please, Steve and other commentors, explain to me the meaning of this because I really am too culturally and morally separate from these people in my thinking to understand this.

Am I meant to understand that certain portions of the liberal intelligencia are so ecstatic about Brown Wonder coming to power that they basically want to have an orgy with him and his family? Is that what this writer is implying?

2/7/09, 5:02 PM

Anonymous Anonymous said...

It got really, really creepy a long time ago. My only question is, can they keep this up for four years? or four years from now, will it be even worse!

2/7/09, 5:03 PM

Blogger agnostic said...

omg, playing Scrabble against Michelle Obama would make my heart sing. The test score chip on her shoulder would knock her off her chair.

"Innateness. Triple word score. Be a dear and mark that down, will you Michelle?"

That New York lawyer is gay -- he's wishing he'd been organizing a bunch of losers rather than hitting the 1983 NY nightclub scene?

And why aren't the guys admitting to fantasizing sexually about Michelle? What, are they racists? Sexists who fear a women with power? For shame.

2/7/09, 5:08 PM

Anonymous Anonymous said...

What is most outrageous about the BO worship is the reality of BO's mediocrity. He's not a talented person. JFK, another mediocrity, also attracted similar attention from the media.

2/7/09, 5:09 PM

Anonymous Harry Baldwin said...

You're not responsible for your dreams, but you are responsible for what you choose to share with others. Does a man tell his wife every fantasy that passes through his mind? I don't think the people quoted in this article are mature enough to be allowed to vote. What's really scary is that most of them seem to be kind of proud of themselves.

2/7/09, 5:19 PM

Blogger Dennis Dale said...

Please note that the NYT offers Warner as a "science" columnist.

2/7/09, 5:38 PM

Anonymous rob said...

I think first anon put it well. I'll second the 'ewwwwwww' as well.

We should also remember the women in the NYT who went public with Bill Clinton fantasies, pre-Monica. And on the other ender of the political spectrum, I would hate to see fanfic about Palin. How long before Obama/Biden 'slash' stories come out? Yeah, ewwwwww.

2/7/09, 5:42 PM

Anonymous Anonymous said...

I confess to having a dream once in which George Bush appeared. All I remember is he was friendly and shook my hand. Dream-Bush's apparent good-natured sincerity surprised me because at the time I was not a Bush admirer and was rather suspicious of him.

2/7/09, 6:02 PM

Anonymous Anonymous said...

Steve, please ban "rob said..."'s ip from your site. He has just hurt my brain very badly.

2/7/09, 6:04 PM

Anonymous Anonymous said...

1. Whoa!
2. Ms. Warner should widen her circle of acquaintance.
3. What planet are these people from?
4. Self awareness is not Ms. Warner's forte.

2/7/09, 6:15 PM

Anonymous dollmaker said...

What scares me most isn't even the creepy Obama fantasies these people have, but that these people are representative of the American elite, who make our policy decisions regarding, say, immigration. If this is the kind of fantasy-land these people live in, then what hope is there for us when they steer our ship?

2/7/09, 6:31 PM

Anonymous Anonymous said...

Lord, that was fricken weird. And gross.

2/7/09, 6:33 PM

Anonymous Anonymous said...

This article is a product of our demented matriarchy. Mass fantasies of sex with the president? Sure, just like with JFK. Who cared that JFK almost got us all killed with the Cuban Missile Crisis? Only the men. The ladies never held it against him.

JFK nearly got all of their kids immolated but the mothers never held it against him.

If Dear Leader is handsome enough, and silver-tongued enough, the ladies will forgive him even getting us all nuked! Yes, they will. It's in their DNA. Women are frequently attracted to utterly poisonous males as moths are to a flame. The Clinton years were a national exercise in wife-beating.

Matriarchy is an unstable state. Matriarchy will elevate immoral and callow men to power. Men like Clinton, Edwards, Obama.

I just saw a headline about more women being employed now in the U.S. than men. Good luck with that! Extreme chaos is just over the next hill because matriarchy always yields to harsh patriarchy.

2/7/09, 6:36 PM

Blogger Stopped Clock said...

Barack Obama the superhero

2/7/09, 6:46 PM

Anonymous Anonymous said...

dennis dale: Please note that the NYT offers Warner as a "science" columnist.
we can no doubt expect fair and accurate reporting of race and gene issues from Mrs. Warner.

2/7/09, 6:52 PM

Blogger Glaivester said...

We should also remember the women in the NYT who went public with Bill Clinton fantasies, pre-Monica.

Maybe in some cases their fantasies came true.

2/7/09, 6:58 PM

Anonymous Anonymous said...

I feel like if I’d been a better person I would have gotten to know them.

That sentence would probably feel at home in a translation of a letter to the editor of a North Korean newspaper. I've never read any North Korean or Mao-era Chinese press, but that's what I've always imagined their style to be.

2/7/09, 7:02 PM

Anonymous Svigor said...

Funny, I was thinking about the laughable sex appeal of the O-man just yesterday.

It's 100% metrosexual. Let's face it, the guy's a wuss, with a masculine, probably overbearing wife. He's the underwear model (much diminished) from the ad on the bus in Fight Club. The sort of fella the media proffers precisely because he's a wuss. GW would probably kick his ass, LOL.

2/7/09, 7:28 PM

Anonymous testing99 said...

THis is an exclusively female/gay phenomena.

More evidence of the profound feminization of the culture and politics.

The flip-side, is that the more Obama is the Teen Idol of middle aged women, the more men hate him.

2/7/09, 8:03 PM

Anonymous Anonymous said...

This is truly unbelievable. How can there be anyone who does not know by now that what goes on inside people's marriages has nothing to do with what you think you're perceiving on the outside? I might decide whether I do or don't like either parties of a couple in question, but it's useless to speculate on what's actually going on between them. I'm sure I'd have it all wrong.

"A modern day Norman Rockwell family" ?? Cut it out! With a polygamist for a papa and a promiscuous wanderer for a mother? With subsets of siblings, some known, and some yet unknown? Hardly Rockwellian!

Are purple lips "sensuous?" They kind of make me want to puke.

-- Victoria

2/7/09, 8:08 PM

Anonymous cranky matron said...

whoa. I don't get it.

"They look like they have the perfect marriage?"

To me, it all looks a bit forced.

But even if you did think the stagecraft was convincing, surely some corner of your mind would remind you that it IS stagecraft.

2/7/09, 9:01 PM

Anonymous robert61 said...

I look at BarryO and see a shyster lawyer with a glib tongue. How far I have fallen from cultural consensus of my NYT-soaked SWPL youth.

2/7/09, 9:27 PM

Anonymous Roger Chaillet said...

Wet dreams with Michelle O?

Ya gotta be kidding.

Imagine, say, the late Sam Francis writing something like this, even as satire.

Oh, the furor would have been intense.

Too bad Sam ain't around to skewer such tripe.

2/7/09, 9:49 PM

Anonymous Bill said...

Pure perimenopausal hysteria. These are confused women going through a profound hormonal transformation.

As a funny aside, my son attends an inner-city preschool where Barack Obama is practically worshiped as a god. They have these coloring books with Barack Obama, and indeed his lips were filled in by some teacher with a purplish hue. I thought he looked a bit like a drag queen (the young teacher must still be learning about cosmetic application).

Anyway, my son has had to listen to so much about Barack Obama that one time when Barack showed up on TV my son started hollering "NO MORE BARACK OBAMA!"

I swear I've never said a thing about politics around the kid, but he's clearly sick of the hype.

There is hope yet...

2/7/09, 10:38 PM

Anonymous Reader said...

I assume everyone's seen the MAD TV "Under Barack Obama" video by now.

This NYT article got me thinking that if a sex scandal occurs during the Obama administration (and, big if, it were actually given attention by the mass media), it would probably be some kind of super-mega scandal, like the OJ trial meets Monica Lewinsky.

2/8/09, 12:25 AM

Anonymous Svigor said...

Only the men. The ladies never held it against him.

JFK nearly got all of their kids immolated but the mothers never held it against him.

If Dear Leader is handsome enough, and silver-tongued enough, the ladies will forgive him even getting us all nuked! Yes, they will.


You've got me nodding, but something doesn't fit. Maybe it's more precise to say women couldn't even process the nuke thing? Unless they walk out of their houses onto a hot sheet of glass, they can't get their heads around it? With women it seems more like you're not supposed to mention the possibility of glassification, than it seems to actually have anything to do with enabling said possibility.

2/8/09, 4:14 AM

Anonymous Anonymous said...

“I dreamed I was an Obama girl. I had a chance to be in the same room with him for the first time. There were dark velvet chairs and he was standing there with all this dark and mist around him. His lips so purple and sensuous as if to be otherworldly,”

This reminds me of one of those Hammer House of Horror Dracula films ...

What a bizarre range of feelings are described in the article.

Mostly, they're just sad.

2/8/09, 6:00 AM

Anonymous Anonymous said...

"A modern day Norman Rockwell family" ?? Cut it out! With a polygamist for a papa and a promiscuous wanderer for a mother? With subsets of siblings, some known, and some yet unknown? Hardly Rockwellian!

NYT's cut back on copy editors they of course, meant Orwell.

2/8/09, 6:32 AM

Anonymous Anonymous said...

OK, so they hype miscegenation, and then in countries where it just happened because there were too few white wimmenz, like Angola, the light-skinned are considered more beautiful. We are going around in circles.

2/8/09, 7:49 AM

Anonymous headache said...

well, it proves t99's assertions about modern wimmenz, don't it?

2/8/09, 7:55 AM

Anonymous Anonymous said...

"If Dear Leader is handsome enough, and silver-tongued enough, the ladies will forgive him even getting us all nuked! Yes, they will."

OK, now I'm convinced t99 had it right. Wimmenz wanting to orgy with da prez, and nukes in suitcases going off in NY. The Slimes just proved t99 was right!

2/8/09, 8:01 AM

Anonymous Lloyd G. said...

The election of Obama proves that America has moved past racism. Or something.

Bonus: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VsAg_yodQtU

2/8/09, 9:39 AM

Blogger Ronduck said...

Am I meant to understand that certain portions of the liberal intelligencia are so ecstatic about Brown Wonder coming to power that they basically want to have an orgy with him and his family?

I think many of them want to have his child.

2/8/09, 9:46 AM

Anonymous Anonymous said...

"It's 100% metrosexual."

In my search for a correct designation of Obama, I've been calling him a skinny, hairless twit. But, you're right. The correct term is "metrosexual."

-- Victoria

2/8/09, 10:22 AM

Anonymous colleen said...

testing99 wrote:

"More evidence of the profound feminization of the culture and politics."

I'll second this. And add also that it's a symptom of the general indulgent nature of that feminization -- it's always okay to talk about your *feelings,* and in fact any feeling, no matter how private, ought to be *shared*.

But, uh, in the NYT? Bizarro.

2/8/09, 12:16 PM

Anonymous SWPL Fan said...

Truth should chime in here with what's undeniably true - most of these dingbat fantasizers are white women. In my northern ski town's tiny parade the other day, the local Democrats marched with their red float, staffed entirely by women, and with two of them hugging an Obama cut-out in the most awesomely creepy display I'd seen in a while. It was like something out of Babylon 2400 years ago.

The good news for us is that these people, as CLander points out, have reached the stage of utter ridicule, and they're particular to only a single race. The fetishization of the black male by half-wit white females - absolutely racist in every sense - must run its course, and instead of concerned onlookers being infuriated, as they previously were, they can get a good laugh at the preposterousness of it all while biologically showing these broads the door. That's evolution.

We're in the midst of an absolute divvying up of what are blandly called "whites". If you agree with the logical explanation that the economy is not tanking, but stabilizing itself, then you can probably grasp what's happening to the bloated Caucasian race.

2/8/09, 4:57 PM

Anonymous d.c. watcher said...

my take on this article, as the queasiness subsides, is that is more propaganda. They've still got it going on people. MSM is up these peoples' ass and the powers that be want us to keep thinking they are some sort of magic thing. Without this hype, the vast majority of whites would forget about them; certainly only a few hopeless cases would indulge in fantasies. Purple lips my but.

But as for JFK. He got in a tangle with Cuba but he vetoed a false flag operation called Northwoods, dreamt up by pscyho Gen. Curtis Lemay who absolutely hated JFK. Bobby was briefly interested in this plan though.
I also learned from an acquaintance who was going to be sent to Laos in 1961, that JFK also vetoed a plan to send them because it would have certainly resulted in huge casualties. He always had a soft spot for Jack after that. This acquaintance lives near Sen. Teddy and says he's a fat, smelly old guy. Maybe it's true. The good die younger.
JFK did care more about the young because he'd actually been in a war and lost a brother. Chickenhawks are almost always the most heartless war mongers. I never had a lick of hope in ol' Purple Lips. I don't see how any sane white person could.

2/8/09, 5:39 PM

Anonymous Anonymous said...

Get over yourself, Svigor, you don't know any women to discuss nuclear war with, or anything else.

2/8/09, 11:50 PM

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