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"Comedian Russell Peters: the anti-Sacha Baron Cohen"

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Anonymous Anonymous said...

I once watched one of his performances on Youtube, and what was weird was that every single joke in the 30-minute routine was about this or that ethnicity or race. He's all about ethnic jokes.

5/21/12, 3:53 PM

Blogger Maguro said...

Dude's a dead ringer for Derek Jeter.

5/21/12, 4:12 PM

Anonymous as said...

Russell Peters looks and sounds like an average Indian-American to me. He doesn't look like a Parsi at all.

With Anglo-Indians, you have something of the one-drop rule. They usually look like regular Indians, but if they have even a small amount of English ancestry, that makes them "Anglo."

5/21/12, 4:17 PM

Anonymous as said...

I hate Bollywood.

Good for him.

5/21/12, 4:22 PM

Anonymous Anonymous said...

Inglos

5/21/12, 4:22 PM

Anonymous Anonymous said...

Someone who knows India well fill me in on this: did south India seem to "Anglicize" more during the colonial era than in the rest of the country? From the Indians I've met, I kinda get that idea.

5/21/12, 4:26 PM

Anonymous Anonymous said...

Good show about Alistair McGowan's Anglo-Indian roots. Normally, Who do you think you are is preachy and maudlin, the US version being worse than the UK version for this. But both are bad.

But this episode was funny, particularly because McGowan's family described themselves as "English in India." McGowan's conversation with his Uncle Rusty about the family was pretty funny, in an understated way.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R85IkGW3y9c

5/21/12, 4:30 PM

Anonymous Anonymous said...

Is this the guy who I saw talking about going to India to finally meet his people? He said he got off the plane and took a whiff and said these are not my people.


It seems like it might have been him.

5/21/12, 4:31 PM

Anonymous Anonymous said...

Russell is big here in Canada. The routine about his friend Ryan and Western vs. immigrant disciplne is his most famous joke. I think he officially retired it. It begins at 3:38 in the clip you linked to.

"Somebody gonna get hurt real bad!"

5/21/12, 4:35 PM

Anonymous Anonymous said...

His accents are good. He does funny Indian and Chinese accents.

5/21/12, 4:40 PM

Anonymous Joe Six-Pack said...

What surprise me about India is the bureaucracy, how a country colonised by Britain ended being the most bureaucratic in the World?

5/21/12, 4:43 PM

Anonymous Anonymous said...

@as, Indian caste society, in theory has the 1 drop rule, and any Anglo-Indian with 1 drop of blood outside caste, was out-casted, and ended up in Anglo-Indian society, not Indian society

Anglo-Indians vary a lot in skin tone and hair color, In my school we had a few, blond and blue-eyed Anglo-Indian English teachers. They vary in looks from full Indian to almost full white

They are in heavy demand in call-centers, as trainers of English speech, as their accent does not have Indian accent.


@Anon @ 4.26, South India and Bengal came under british rule by 1760, whereas Punjab only came under british rule in 1849

There were british military cantonments all over South India

5/21/12, 4:44 PM

Anonymous Anonymous said...

I haven´t watched his videos, but I doubt he is funnier than Don Rickles. When I was reading your article on Sacha Cohen,and saw the "I never laugh at Jewish comedians" posts, I kept thinking about how funny and unapolegetically jewish Don Rickles is.

Of course Rickles comes from a generation that was greatful to be American, and you can tell that when he is interviewed.

5/21/12, 4:50 PM

Anonymous slumber_j said...

Rickles' performance in Casino was a revelation to me.

5/21/12, 5:01 PM

Anonymous Ismail Merchant said...

You're slipping, Saylor--where's the reference to me, venerable producer of countless, indistinguishable wet-hanky classics? That Ben Kingsley and Japanese novelist fellow got nuthin

5/21/12, 5:34 PM

Anonymous Anonymous said...

He sure doesn't look "Anglo" to me.

5/21/12, 5:59 PM

Anonymous Anonymous said...

Neither does he look like Freddy Mercury.

5/21/12, 6:23 PM

Anonymous Drew said...

Its good to have comedians like this making light of political correctness, but we will know there has been real progress when a WASP man can do it without being burned at the stake...

5/21/12, 6:39 PM

Anonymous Anonymous said...

Someone who knows India well fill me in on this: did south India seem to "Anglicize" more during the colonial era than in the rest of the country? From the Indians I've met, I kinda get that idea.

The British spent most of their efforts trying to Anglicize north-west India. That was the whitest region and the one closest to Christianity. It was south India, as you suspect, that took the bait instead.

5/21/12, 6:41 PM

Anonymous Anonymous said...

"That was the whitest region and the one closest to Christianity."

The Christianity part thanks to Portuguese efforts.

5/21/12, 6:56 PM

Anonymous Anonymous said...

"The Christianity part thanks to Portuguese efforts."
True but even prior to the Portuguese, Christianity was in Kerola.

5/21/12, 7:26 PM

Anonymous Anonymous said...

I suppose someone will eventually get around to denouncing him for abusing his Anglo-Indian privilege. After all, ethnicity is no laughing matter. Or do the slit-eyed ideologues like to spare a few tokens to pretend that they are not humorless?

Gilbert P.

5/21/12, 7:27 PM

Anonymous Anonymous said...

If he was elected mayor of LA would he be considered an "Anglo" mayor?

5/21/12, 7:31 PM

Anonymous Iberian said...

Anglo-Indians is not a rigorous identification; it includes the vast and much more ancient (from XVI century) Portuguese-Indian commmunity. They built the most european city of Índia: Goa.
The label also includes the descendants of even more ancient communitys, like the Greeks and Armenians.

5/21/12, 7:34 PM

Anonymous Anonymous said...

There's also the comedian Joe Wong:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gD0s7gfTotk

He's a FOB (fresh off the boat) and has a bad accent.

5/21/12, 7:58 PM

Anonymous as said...

I wrote: With Anglo-Indians, you have something of the one-drop rule. They usually look like regular Indians, but if they have even a small amount of English ancestry, that makes them "Anglo."

I meant, they embrace their Anglo-Indian identity (i.e. people who look and sound like average Indians calling themselves "Anglo").

5/21/12, 8:09 PM

Anonymous Anonymous said...

"That was the whitest region and the one closest to Christianity."

The Christianity part thanks to Portuguese efforts.

True but even prior to the Portuguese, Christianity was in Kerola.

Where Kerala and the Portuguese colonies in North-West India, now Pakistan?

5/21/12, 8:27 PM

Anonymous Anonymous said...

I think anti-SBC is a good way to categorize him. A lot of his jokes are self deprecating about his own family and his people (Indians). He's equal opportunity when it comes to others. And his jokes aren't mean spirited, like SBC's.

SBC by the way can't take a joke at all when it's directed against him. There's some videos on Youtube of people pranking him, and he looks fuming mad in them.

5/21/12, 8:34 PM

Anonymous Anonymous said...

My goodness, have you just now discovered the joy of youtubing Russell Peters, Steve? You are in for a lot of delight, this guy is utterly hilarious.

The Anglo-Indians in the US, like the Jains and Brahmins, are light-skinned and wicked smart.

5/21/12, 8:42 PM

Anonymous Anonymous said...

Freddie Mercury was a Parsi by the way.

5/21/12, 8:43 PM

Anonymous Anonymous said...

Some famous anglo-indians:

Sebastian Coe, champion athlete

Engelbert Humperdinck, singer

Diana Hayden, Miss World

Boris Karloff, Actor

Ben Kingsley, Actor

Merle Oberon, Actress

Cliff Richard, Singer

Pete Best, musician Beatles

Vivien Leigh, Actress

Julie Christie, Actress

Reita Faria, Miss World

Lara Dutta, Miss Universe

5/21/12, 8:45 PM

Anonymous Anonymous Rice Alum #4 said...

True but even prior to the Portuguese, Christianity was in Kerola.

Where Kerala and the Portuguese colonies in North-West India, now Pakistan?


Kerala is the southwestern part of the southern tip of India. It's the most Christian (~20%) state in India. There's an Orthodox community that claims St. Thomas brought Christianity to the region a few decades after the Crucifixion--to be diplomatic, I have my doubts about that. There's a Catholic community that dates back to the Portuguese. And believe it or not, they actually permit their children to intermarry!

5/21/12, 9:23 PM

Anonymous Anonymous said...

The Anglo-Indians in the US, like the Jains and Brahmins, are light-skinned and wicked smart.

Typical indian BS.

5/21/12, 9:51 PM

Anonymous Cramden said...

This guy is white! Case closed.

As per the Sailer definition in effect on this website: there is no such category as West Asian or Middle Eastern--therefore these people default to white.

Iranians? White. Iraqis? White.

Very FedGov of you, Steve.

5/21/12, 9:55 PM

Anonymous Anonymous said...

What surprise me about India is the bureaucracy, how a country colonised by Britain ended being the most bureaucratic in the World


I'm pretty sure that Britain is the most bureaucratic country in the world. Americans have some odd misconceptions of what Blighty is like.

5/21/12, 9:59 PM

Anonymous Anonymous said...

The british comedian Danny Bhoy who is half indian and half scottish cracks me up:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jepZVctaVmo&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1uOEMJSPE0I

5/21/12, 11:05 PM

Anonymous Penna Success said...

I saw his performance on Youtube recently, he seemed happy to make fun on races and ethnicity of ppl and get away with it... I must appreciate d tolerance and intellect of audience...

5/21/12, 11:05 PM

Anonymous as said...

I've never heard of Anglo-Indians in India being smart.

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There's a Catholic community that dates back to the Portuguese. And believe it or not, they actually permit their children to intermarry!

Kerala Christian communities have caste-ism.

Non-castism among Indians means: men of uglier groups marrying women of better looking groups.

It's a lot like non-racism.

5/21/12, 11:50 PM

Anonymous Anonymous said...

Popular British singers of the 1960s Cliff Richard and Englebert Humperdinck are Anglo-Indians.

5/21/12, 11:59 PM

Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anglo-Indians used to run the railways and the police in colonial India, the British used them as an intermediate caste, not quite Indian, but not quite British either.

5/22/12, 12:03 AM

Anonymous DavidB said...

I'm not sure that Julie Christie is Anglo-Indian in the mixed-race sense. She was born in India to a mother from England and a father who managed a tea plantation - not, at that time (1940s), a likely occupation for Anglo-Indians. (Nor is it likely that an English woman would have married a known Anglo-Indian.) She does however have a half-sister with an Indian mother: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-513285/The-secret-Indian-sister-haunts-actress-Julie-Christie.html

5/22/12, 12:34 AM

Anonymous Barry Wood said...

Freddy Mercury was Anglo-Indian, out of Zanzibar, via London.

5/22/12, 12:52 AM

Anonymous Anonymous said...

Russel Peters is very popular among young, educated Indians who work in the outsourcing sector, so regardless of what Indian pc-defenders may say, he definitely has mojo in India.

5/22/12, 3:06 AM

Anonymous Iberian said...

Freddy Mercury was not Anglo-Indian, except by nationality/papers.He don´t have a drop of european blood (Portuguese or British); etnically he was Parsi, a group that escape from Persia 1000 years ago, due to Arab invasion. Racially, he was Caucasian (if you don´t like to apply White to Iranians...). Anniway,the Indians, Malayans, Shuailis, Ethiopians, etc... use the same words to describe the Portuguese, English,Dutch,Turkish,Persians,Afghans, etc... "Ferengy" (Franks) or "Rumi" (Romans);or like the Chinese say "the big noses"...

5/22/12, 3:15 AM

Anonymous dearieme said...

"The British spent most of their efforts trying to Anglicize north-west India": in what sense?

Anyway, if you want Anglo-Indians what about our three Prime Ministers?

(Lord Liverpool, the Earl of Chatham, and Pitt the Younger)

5/22/12, 4:16 AM

Blogger David said...

How Scots-Irish is Bollywood?

5/22/12, 6:12 AM

Anonymous Anonymous said...

"or like the Chinese say "the big noses"... "

round eyes!

"Russel Peters is very popular among young, educated Indians who work in the outsourcing sector,"

yes, a friend was a big fan of him. He also recounted how he used an insinuation of racism to get out of a trick situation with cops in London.

"so regardless of what Indian pc-defenders may say"

huh?
Indian pc-defenders would not defend indian things.

5/22/12, 7:08 AM

Anonymous Anonymous said...

Son of Flashman, obviously.

5/22/12, 7:14 AM

Anonymous Anonymous said...

Let's not give this guy to much credit until he starts making fun of Jews. Indians are easy targets.

5/22/12, 8:05 AM

Anonymous Anonymous said...

Particularly notable Parsis in other areas of achievement include rock star Freddie Mercury,

5/22/12, 9:21 AM

Anonymous Simon in London said...

Peters seems pretty funny, going by his youtube clips. A lot funnier than Sasha Baron Cohen.

5/22/12, 11:59 AM

Anonymous Perspective said...

I thought he was quite funny when he was just becoming popular, but I think his ethnic based jokes have worn out their 'funniness' to those of us that have heard them before.

The city he was born in, (Brampton, Ontario)probably has one of the highest concentrations of South Asians (mostly Sikhs and some Hindus) than just about any where else in North America. When Peters was born there in 1970, Brampton was probably still over 90 percent white.

5/22/12, 2:32 PM

Anonymous Ravi said...

South India and Eastern India( the Bengal area) are more anglicised than North India. The best written account of the British impact on India is Nirad Chauduri's The Autobiography of an unknown Indian. VS Naipaul said of the book "No better account of the penetration of the Indian mind by the West—and by extension, of the penetration of one culture by another—will be or now can be written."

5/22/12, 3:47 PM

Blogger jeppo said...

The city he was born in, (Brampton, Ontario)probably has one of the highest concentrations of South Asians (mostly Sikhs and some Hindus) than just about any where else in North America. When Peters was born there in 1970, Brampton was probably still over 90 percent white.

That's why it's locally known as Bramladesh. It's not a small town either, but a large city of more than 400,000 people. You're right about the percentages: 90% of the first 200,000 folks who settled in this suburb of Toronto, which was virtually all farm fields 50 years ago, were white. 98% of the next 200,000 were Indian. Diversity!

5/22/12, 4:31 PM

Anonymous Canadian Observer said...

I met him at a local Yuk Yuk's club around 15 years ago when he was a young comedian doing the low-end GTA comedy club scene. Really cool guy.

Toronto has quite a stifling politically correct atmosphere and his comedy does help to disintegrate these fetters. Whenever I'm around my non-white friends or acquaintances, I always bring up a Russell Peters joke to break the ice.

I have to say though - a key aspect of his comedy is his barely veiled message to the audience which is as follows: "Without the White Man, us Indians would be a bunch of backward illiterate peasants".

5/22/12, 4:48 PM

Anonymous Anonymous said...

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-513285/The-secret-Indian-sister-haunts-actress-Julie-Christie.html

The girl, called June, was the result of a relationship between Julie's father Frank St John Christie, the manager of a tea plantation in India, and one of his Indian tea-pickers.

( Indian teapickers are mostly untouchables and forest tribals )

5/22/12, 5:18 PM

Anonymous porty said...

The Portugese were in southern India -- mostly the western part I think. They were not in the north.

5/22/12, 6:45 PM

Anonymous tellemand said...

Some of the "Indian" ancestry that the "Anglo-Indians" had was actually Persian. So I'm not sure if that counts as some sort of admission to some secret poc club. I mean -- Persian. Cyndi Crawford is part Persian.
There are all kinds of Indians and they range from white (rare) to black (more common). Most are medium brown. So Vivien Leigh may have had an olive skinned Persiann ggggrandmother. And that says---what?

5/22/12, 6:52 PM

Anonymous Anonymous said...

Reply to Jeppo said:

"90% of the first 200,000 folks who settled in this suburb of Toronto, which was virtually all farm fields 50 years ago, were white. 98% of the next 200,000 were Indian. Diversity!"

I'd say more like ethnic cleansing!

By the way, that 90% white figure is probably more like 99%. Not to mention the farmers in those fields from 50 years ago and more would have been 100% white too.

As a multi-generational Torontonian, if I were to walk around Bramladesh, I would feel as out of place as if I were in the sub-continent. I didn't want to live in India, so I didn't MOVE to India.

But the Indian sub-continent MOVED to me.

5/23/12, 2:42 PM

Anonymous Anonymous said...

Sebastian Coe, champion athlete

Engelbert Humperdinck, singer

Diana Hayden, Miss World

Boris Karloff, Actor

Ben Kingsley, Actor

Merle Oberon, Actress

Cliff Richard, Singer

Pete Best, musician Beatles

Vivien Leigh, Actress

Julie Christie, Actress

Reita Faria, Miss World

Lara Dutta, Miss Universe


Im pretty sure some of those are Anglo-Indian in the other sense of the word. i.e. they are Brits born in India, not of any Indian parentage.

5/23/12, 3:44 PM

Anonymous Anonymous said...

He also recounted how he used an insinuation of racism to get out of a tricky situation with cops in London.

Hold the front page! Dog bites man!

Non-white manipulates racism legislation to get out of trouble.

5/23/12, 3:49 PM

Anonymous Anonymous said...

In India, Anglo-Indian legal definition = English Father + Indian Mother

Lara Dutta = Indian Father, Anglo-Indian-hybrid-mother.
= Not-Anglo-Indian

Diana Hayden = Born in Anglo-Indian Family

Boris Karloff = 1 / 8 Indian

Merle Oberon = 1 / 4 Indian

5/23/12, 10:38 PM

Anonymous Anonymous said...

Let's not give this guy to much credit until he starts making fun of Jews. Indians are easy targets.

So in other words, white people.

5/25/12, 2:04 AM

Anonymous Robert Smith said...

Peters begins the one special of his I've seen talking about how Indian he is, about how he's not white, about how brown he is, presumably to reassure the audience that what is to follow is okay to laugh at. Yet, he certainly doesn't sound Indian. (He sounds like, I dunno, Don Rickles or Rodney Dangerfield in Caddy Shack.) But he apparently hadn't been out in the L.A. sun much before the show I saw (in contrast to the video clips above where he is well-tanned). I was struck by how, when not tanned, he's not terribly Indian looking.

I think the problem is Peters realizes stereotypes are ridiculous and he makes jokes about them. You on the other hand apparently listened to him and thought he was giving an anthropology lecture. It cracks me up when people say people don't "sound Indian." I guess Barak Obama doesn't "sound black." Or Colin Powell doesn't "sound black." Really Steve Sailer do you think human vocalizations are based on some phony construct of race or do you think they are based on who you happen to hear the most on radio/TV or in your preschool?

5/30/12, 11:32 PM

Anonymous Anonymous said...

Its obvious that you have no clue. Anglo-Indians are culturally British, light skinned and some lighter skinned than the british. "One drop rule" refers to one drop of Indian blood if any.

5/7/16, 3:32 AM

Blogger Mark Sutton said...

You obviously have no clue. Anglo-Indians are culturally British and some have a little Indian blood.

5/7/16, 3:35 AM

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