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"The Megaphone in Action: NYT still at it over Dallas murdering JFK"

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Anonymous Dahinda said...

How does Los Angeles deal with the shame of the fact that it killed Bobby Kennedy?

11/22/13, 12:49 PM

Anonymous Harry Baldwin said...

Nice little city you got there. Be a shame of something was to stigmatize it.

11/22/13, 12:49 PM

Blogger Steve Sailer said...

"How does Los Angeles deal with the shame of the fact that it killed Bobby Kennedy?"

Spent $588 million dollars building a public school on the site?

11/22/13, 12:51 PM

Anonymous Dahinda said...

"Spent $588 million dollars building a public school on the site?"
I said that LA killed Bobby Kennedy, not its budget!

11/22/13, 1:01 PM

Anonymous Dahinda said...

"John Angle, 23, a senior at Southern Methodist University" Quoting this guy about JFK is like getting a quote in 1951 from a guy born in 1928 about the McKinley assassination in 1901.

11/22/13, 1:10 PM

Anonymous Anonymous said...

Dallas was on the right - the killer was a commie - end of story!

One can have NO respect for these pseudo-intellectual NE liberals who lie for power. What they are doing is a pure power play - they are out and out lying - manipulating the masses so they can gain control of government.

p.s. It is really sad that so many people do not recognize this to be true.

p.s. It requires effort to fight a lie. Does the mind just psychologically give in to a repeated lie? Is it almost mechanical?

11/22/13, 1:12 PM

Anonymous Anonymous said...

Uncovering conspiracies is spreading conspiracy theories. With conservatives like these...

11/22/13, 1:34 PM

Anonymous Anonymous said...

"This Texas city, long scarred by the guilt and shame of being the place President John F. Kennedy was assassinated, stood in silent tribute on Friday..."

Where do they get this? I don't think most people in Dallas felt any shame or guilt over a killing they had nothing to do with. I mean why would they? If Obama were to be killed in your city by a crazed Muslim, would you feel guilt and shame over it?
Jewish Liberals and their minions like Fernandez are imposing 'shame' and 'guilt' on people who were and felt innocent of the killing.

If indeed conspiracy theorists of the Kennedy assassination blame the CIA, FBI, and the military-industrial complex, the main culprits were in DC.
It should be the Washington that should feel most ashamed and guilty.

11/22/13, 1:39 PM

Anonymous Anonymous said...

Washington DC city of hate!

Two Presidents assassinated: Lincoln and Garfield.

Three attempts: Jackson, Truman, Reagan.

Plus that guy who tried to fly a plane into the White House when Clinton was in office.

11/22/13, 1:43 PM

Anonymous Anonymous said...

I think those commies is projecting.

11/22/13, 1:53 PM

Blogger Shouting Thomas said...

God, but they're working hard on this one!

What's the point?

11/22/13, 2:13 PM

Blogger sunbeam said...

You mention a name, Holden Caulfield, which has always aroused puzzlement in me.

I read Catcher in the Rye. How did this ever get big? How? It truly puzzles me. The language doesn't grab you. The story is unbelievably lame.

And someone was moved enough by this thing to commit murder?

Just don't get it, and never will. Holden Caulfield couldn't do anything. Not be good, be bad, be outstanding, be normal, be a drunk, elude detection, swing, etc, you name it he failed at it. Actually he Epic-Failed at it.

I couldn't identify with him at all. I guess I could find statistics somewhere, but I'd be really curious as to the demographics of people who read this book more than once.

I could come up with some theories I guess, but in honor of Holden's spirit, why bother?

Hmmm maybe he was the Ur-Metrosexual?

11/22/13, 2:19 PM

Anonymous Anonymous said...

These articles are all a lot better if you replace "John F. Kennedy" with "J.R. Ewing."

11/22/13, 2:30 PM

Blogger Beefy Levinson said...

Buffalo, NY: City of Hate. Buffalo killed McKinley!

11/22/13, 2:31 PM

Blogger Gubbler of the Society of Reformed Chechenistics said...

It's like the Matthew Shepherd thing. He was likely killed by fellow homo drug dealers, but the narrative was he was killed for his homosexuality.

What NY TIMES is doing is a giant 'hate hoax' made respectable.

It's like the politics of who killed Jesus.

Some historians say Romans did it, but early Christians put the blame on Jews in order to appeal to Roman elites(who were relatively let off the hook).

In the 20th century, some suspect Jews have been let off the hook because of Jewish pressure and feelings over the Holocaust.



11/22/13, 2:33 PM

Blogger Rainer said...

If Dallas had guts, they'd said: JFK was a Catholic who had the bad taste to buddy-buddy with the mean, dishonest East Coast Liberals and who will forever be disgraced by the company he chose.

If they haven't the guts, they get what they merit.

11/22/13, 3:18 PM

Anonymous Anonymous said...

Steve, your title says that NYT is still at it over Dallas and JFK.

Could one possibility be that today/this wkend's a slow news cycle?

Nothing like nostalgia to punch up an otherwise slow news cycle.

Seriously, it's the boomers big moment since its the first Presidential assassination on TV.

I mean, how many historians recycle President McKinley's assassination? Didnt exist, since it was before TV or even radio. Heck even the infant nickelodeons didn't capture it on film to show us!

Of course the irony is that McKinley served longer in office than JFK plus his margin of victories were both larger than Kennedy's.

11/22/13, 3:23 PM

Blogger agnostic said...

Tel Aviv, City of Hate, gunned down Yitzhak Rabin.

11/22/13, 3:27 PM

Blogger agnostic said...

The Bay Area of Hate murdered Huey Newton.

11/22/13, 3:30 PM

Anonymous DYork said...

So I guess the Dallas Cowboys were never marketed as America's Team in the 1970s.

The Dallas Cowboys, a relatively unknown entity in the 1970s/80s and 90s???

The TV show Dallas on the air from 1978 to 1991, pretty much unknown to the American people???

Nope, never happened. It was just Dallas = HATEHATEHATE and a dead Kennedy for 50 years.

Well now I know.

11/22/13, 3:31 PM

Anonymous Otis McWrong said...

Manny Fernandez sure has been busy since retiring from the Miami Dolphins. Unfortunately he seems to have had one too many concussions.

Apologies in advance for not knowing how to embed a link.

http://www.spokeo.com/Manny+Fernandez+2/Oct+01+1973+South+Bend+In


11/22/13, 3:34 PM

Anonymous Anonymous said...

New York Times hiding that Lee Harvey Oswald was a good ole southern boy until he moved to the Bronx and got corrupted by yankeedom.

11/22/13, 3:49 PM

Anonymous Forbert Pointer said...

The newscaster Robert MacNeil may have run into Oswald right after the killing, asking him about a phone.

http://globalnews.ca/news/981131/did-canadian-born-robert-macneil-meet-lee-harvey-oswald-after-jfk-shooting/

11/22/13, 4:06 PM

Anonymous Grassie Noll said...

"New York Times hiding that Lee Harvey Oswald was a good ole southern boy until he moved to the Bronx and got corrupted by yankeedom."

Which people wrote the kind of radical leftist literature that warped Oswald's mind, indeed so much that he was willing to kill the president?
You suppose that group of people should look back on their own history of radical hatred?

11/22/13, 4:09 PM

Anonymous Anonymous said...

"The Bay Area of Hate murdered Huey Newton."

Didn't Harvey Milk die there too?

11/22/13, 4:10 PM

Anonymous G rated version said...

Weren't certain ethnic groups more involved in communist crimes than other groups? Whichever they happened to be, shouldn't they be responsible to history and reflect on their past deeds of their people?

Maybe just maybe such people spread the kinds of not-very-nice ideas that came to infect and poison the minds of lonesome losers like Oswald.

But maybe such a people have sufficient influence in the media to push their version of the narrative.. whatever such may be.

Could such a people also have an inordinate influence in the entertainment industry and have spread the kinds of views and prejudices that sometimes led this country to make unwise decisions in its foreign policy, especially in the Middle East? I dunno, just sayin'.

Could it be that such a group tends to lack in self-criticism because other groups--that form the majority--are too timid and reluctant to speak the truth lest they lose favor with the elites?

I recall a certain magazine cover after the election of 2012 that was rather unpleasant about white conservatives, especially the older and male ones. Why do I get a feeling that the people behind the magazine--and their allies in other segments of the media--don't exactly like white conservatives?

Geez, I think I said enough. It's nighty night time after a little milk and cookies.

11/22/13, 4:31 PM

Anonymous Anonymous said...

If there was a conspiracy, presumably by the far right, why did Democrats cover it up? And if Kennedy was killed because he had no intention of fighting in Vietnam, why wasn't Nixon killed for making peace with China and pulling out of Vietnam--and signing arms control deals with the USSR?

11/22/13, 4:41 PM

Anonymous Anonymous said...

Nixon also visited communist Romania. He became very friendly with Brezhnev. Maybe the conspiracy theorists will say Watergate was done by the Military Industrial Complex to punish Nixon. Yep, Deep Throat was really working with the Pentagon to depose Nixon for going easy on the commies.

11/22/13, 4:45 PM

Anonymous Anonymous said...

I mean, how many historians recycle President McKinley's assassination? Didnt exist, since it was before TV or even radio. Heck even the infant nickelodeons didn't capture it on film to show us!

Lincoln and his assassination were long before TV, radios, or even movies. Yet historians make a big cult over him.

11/22/13, 5:38 PM

Anonymous slumber_j said...

Slate's at it too:

http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/history/2013/11/dallas_before_the_john_f_kennedy_assassination_a_map.html

11/22/13, 5:51 PM

Anonymous Anonymous said...

g rated version wrote, "Weren't certain ethnic groups more involved in communist crimes than other groups? Whichever they happened to be, shouldn't they be responsible to history and reflect on their past deeds of their people?"

Actually someone in their homeland tried to do that.

11/22/13, 6:27 PM

Anonymous Anonymous said...

Taxi Driver: Post-Giuliani Edition

11/22/13, 7:22 PM

Anonymous Anonymous said...

"Slate's at it too"

Herd morality of the privileged SWPL class.

11/22/13, 8:11 PM

Anonymous Anonymous said...

Actually someone in their homeland tried to do that.

Reform Jews for Stalin, anyone?

Seriously, these sad self-hating specimens were caught between a rigid traditional Jewish tribal culture of orthodoxy, and pure communism. There was nothing in the middle.

11/22/13, 8:27 PM

Anonymous Matthew said...

I'm glad this day is nearly over. The Cult of Kennedy grows all too wearisome. Once you pass the 50th anniversary mark of shit like this, people pretty much stop paying attention. Today marks the death of the obsession with the death of JFK. Thank God.

11/22/13, 8:28 PM

Anonymous Anonymous said...

"The Cult of Kennedy grows all too wearisome."

Cult of his death.

11/22/13, 11:50 PM

Blogger Miss Carnivorous said...

The day before the anniversary of Oswald's murder of Kennedy, NPR had Wade Goodwyn (I have trouble telling him apart from Roy Blount Jr., although Roy's a whole lot funnier) on doing a prolonged uh, skit, aka, monologue on evil right wing Dallas and its collective responsibility for Kennedy's assassination. It was truly stomach churning. I was shouting at the radio that it was a left winger who killed Kennedy.

The next day, they had Goodwyn on again and he seemed to tone it down a bit and even he said that Oswald was most likely guilty and no different from a school shooter. NPR is interesting but I am growing increasingly tired of its constant stories about racism, gays and poor little put upon illegal immigrants. They often have heartwarming stories about actual criminal illegals who are being "mistreated" by the INS. One story was about a family of shoplifters and how "terrible" it was that they were deported. Sigh....

11/23/13, 9:20 AM

Anonymous The reverend Jessie Sharpton said...

Last year, marking the 20th anniversary of the incident, in the New York Daily News in which he admitted "our language and tone sometimes exacerbated tensions and played to the extremists." He said, "I have grown. I would still have stood up for Gavin Cato, but I would have also included in my utterances that there was no justification or excuse for violence or for the death of Yankel Rosenbaum."

I have a dream that one day radicals will be able to take responsibility for their actions.

11/23/13, 11:09 AM

Anonymous Lee Harvey Kopechne said...

Clive Barker has a short story in which the inhabitants of two towns deep in the mountainous hinterlands of south-eastern Europe bind themselves together in the configuration of giant humanoids, which then develop some kind of gestalt consciousness and lumber across the countryside bringing death and havoc to everything in their path. I think these hysterical loonies at the New York Times imagine Dallas almost literally doing something of this sort to Joe Kennedy's pampered boy.

I admittedly am not an American and have never been to Texas, but I had never heard of Dallas being known as the "city of hate" until a few days ago. Is this a big lie, presumably disseminated in a concerted effort by some latter-day version of Journolist, or was it ever actually known as such? I am suspicious.

Also, the tactical use of the passive voice has been observed many times on this blog, and it's evident here as well. Much easier and more persuasive to say "Dallas was labelled" and "Dallas was stigmatized" rather than "Scots-Irish journalists labelled Dallas" and "Democrat strategists stigmatized"...

11/23/13, 11:44 AM

Anonymous Anonymous said...

If there was a conspiracy, presumably by the far right, why did Democrats cover it up? And if Kennedy was killed because he had no intention of fighting in Vietnam, why wasn't Nixon killed for making peace with China and pulling out of Vietnam--and signing arms control deals with the USSR?

Let's assume Kennedy was waxed over Vietnam. Then you are suggesting that Nixon would have been killed too. But if Kennedy was killed over this issue, then whoever did it must have not wanted to turn Nixon into a martyr too. So better to have a scandal take down Nixon which eliminated him from office and made him, and the public's memory of him, toxic. It would appear that scandal and the destruction of one's reputation is a much better weapon than assassination which can backfire and turn the target into a saint.

11/23/13, 12:15 PM

Anonymous David said...

>Today marks the death of the obsession with the death of JFK.<

No, it will never end. Jack, Jackie O, Elvis, and Marilyn will continue, e.g., to grace the cover of Life Magazine for another 100+ years. Life is still putting Lincoln (died: 1865) on the cover every few months, even now.

One can almost think they are glorying in the corpses of enemies. "General Franco is still dead." (I never understood why that line always got a big laugh on SNL.)

11/23/13, 12:27 PM

Anonymous Anonymous said...

http://topconservativenews.com/2013/11/woman-who-falsely-accused-duke-players-of-rape-is-found-guilty-of-murder/

But don't blame her. Blame, Duke, the college of hate.

11/23/13, 1:44 PM

Anonymous Mr. Anon said...

"David said...

One can almost think they are glorying in the corpses of enemies. "General Franco is still dead." (I never understood why that line always got a big laugh on SNL.)"

After he took ill, Franco lingered on the verge of death for many months before he finally died. News outlets at the time would occasionally mention his (inevitably) unchanged condition. So, when he finally did die, SNL's weekend update parodied that by continuing to give updates (still dead). It was funny at the time. It's often snarky, doctrinaire liberalism aside, Weekend Update is and has been the only consistently funny thing on SNL - that and the commercial parodies. The rest of it is, for the most part, unfunny crap.

11/24/13, 10:06 AM

Anonymous Anonymous said...

Texas US District Court Judge Sarah Hughes, who administered the oath of office to Lyndon Johnson aboard Air Force One, made the following comment shortly afterward:

"Dallas is 'a city of hate, the only American city in which the president could have been shot.'"

She was from Texas and knew Dallas well.

11/24/13, 11:24 AM

Anonymous Anonymous said...

But don't blame her. Blame, Duke, the college of hate.



Don't blame Duke blame Lacrosse the sport of hate.

Football players would not have behaved like that and you know that is a fact.

11/25/13, 12:32 PM

Blogger jgress said...

Although The Economist says some annoying and dumb things at times, especially on immigration, I admire their short article on the assassination anniversary, when they unequivocally reject the "city of hate" theory.

http://www.economist.com/news/united-states/21590361-face-it-oswald-did-it

11/25/13, 4:46 PM

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