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"Slippery Slopes and Tipping Points"

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Blogger Johnson said...

I don't know why our society is so obsessed over players trying to make themselves better. Consider that half of college students take Ritalin, half of middle aged men take Viagra, everyone takes medicine to lower cholesterol, fight depression, stay up late, and have more energy.

Most successful athletes have huge genetic advantages to start out with (just ask the overwhelmingly east african marathon winners).

So, what's wrong with helping the already objectified and over endorsed athlete put him over the top?

Hey, being insanely tall gives Yao Ming an unfair advantage, and makes his successes less respectable. We should outlaw tall people in the NBA.

12/19/07, 2:39 PM

Anonymous eh said...

Is it wrong for him to bet on other baseball teams,...

If the other team is playing against his team, and he's betting that his team will lose, then yes, most definitely.

Is it wrong for him to bet on his own team to lose?

Obviously yes. Because it's much easier to do something to guarantee that you will lose than it is to do something to guarantee that you will win.

It seemed awfully obvious at the 1996 Olympics that veteran superstar Carl Lewis had gone on HGH...

To perhaps state the obvious: the photographic evidence here regarding Lewis isn't nearly as dramatic or convincing as the 'before' and 'after' photos of Bonds.

12/19/07, 3:11 PM

Anonymous Anonymous said...

Education:
Malcy was on NPR today...

IQ Test Is Also a Measure of

Society, Author Says
Writer Malcolm Gladwell discusses his recent New Yorker article, "None of the Above: What IQ Doesn't Tell You About Race." Gladwell's article reviews a recent book by psychologist James Flynn which posits that IQ is as much a barometer of society as it is a measure of intelligence.

12/19/07, 4:07 PM

Anonymous L said...

I have a hard time believing that structural changes to bone would reverse like that. In that case, wouldn't Bonds' head shrink back to a normal size?

Call me an empiricist, but I have a very hard time gauging biological effects of PEDs through photographs.

12/19/07, 6:31 PM

Anonymous jody said...

is that 1992 cover of runner's world real? that's pretty funny if it is.

12/19/07, 6:40 PM

Anonymous Anonymous said...

Setting aside whatever moral/philosophical/etc. arguments there are to make against steroids, the overriding practical argument against them is that if we all know the players are juicing, we're not going to care about the sport - who wants to watch a contest of who is the better drug-taker/drug-producer? So if baseball wants to prevent fans from losing interest in it, they will be strict about where to draw the line on the slippery slope. (Moral philosophers may not be able to draw a distinction between height and drugs, but, amazingly, we the ignorant public can!)

12/19/07, 6:51 PM

Anonymous Ian Lewis said...

Steve said that there were no tests for HGH in the 1990s, implying that there are tests today.

I was under the impression that we still did not have a test for HGH. Is that right?

12/20/07, 8:08 AM

Anonymous Anonymous said...

I have read that HGH is only performance enhancing when taken in combination with steroids, so taking HGH to heal injuries is similar to taking anti-inflammatories.

12/20/07, 12:55 PM

Anonymous Anonymous said...

Can you take/get HGH without a prescription?

Isn't that the key thing no one is talking about. If it's legal, why the debate?

If it isn't legal, then there should be a debate. Case closed.

12/20/07, 5:22 PM

Anonymous Anonymous said...

I would like to respond to a comment made by you Steve that is absolutely fase and defamatory. My name is Carl Lewis and I have NEVER used HGH, STEROIDS, or any drugs. I find it interesting that you tried to put a picture up that does not compare the way I look from year to year. And by the way, the look that you get from HGH is structural and not reversible so what you and your wife saw was in your own eyes. It is consistant with the bias toward professional teams over Olympic Sports. I have been a leader in the fight against drugs in sports for more than twenty years. I asked for an independent agency to take over drug test in ALL sport in 1987 when it was not a major issue. It is people like you that spread false information that urts the cause. Instead of making excuses for a sport and its athletes that has a rampant drug problem, you should blame a union that refused to alow testing even after Faye Vincent recomended it. If you are going to have a blog and provide information to the public, you should at lease get you facts straight. And to all of you, this is agreat time in sports, our goal should be to make our sports clean for the cildren of the future. Competing as a athlete is a privilage not a right in this country and if you choose to cheat you should be caught and suspended for years like the Olympic sports, not for a few games like the major league sports. If you want to speak on this subject, why don't you ask baseball and the major team sports why they do not have independent testing like the Olympic sports. I would love to see what response that would get...

12/22/07, 11:18 AM

Anonymous Sideways said...


I was under the impression that we still did not have a test for HGH. Is that right?

There is a test(s) for HGH now, it just requires a blood test which the MLBPA will not allow MLB to administer. Olympic athletes, cyclists, etc are another story.

12/27/07, 5:29 AM

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