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"Will family formation determine the 2008 election?"

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Anonymous Anonymous said...

Obama has not been running as a bipartisan centrist. On the contrary he's been running as an "aspirational" consumer good for hard-left rich yuppies. The Volvo, Apple Computer, Ben and Jerry's Candidate.

Which has limited his appeal.

Look at those Obama! videos out of will.i.am. Very "lifestyle aspirational" and thus limiting itself to non-family formation people. Rich young people and older rich yuppies.

3/7/08, 3:59 PM

Anonymous Statsquatch said...

Technical Comment.

I think if the sample is truly random then the true correlation (observed after the election) could be either higher or lower than the correlation you observed in the sample.

3/7/08, 4:25 PM

Anonymous SKT said...

Are these people on crack they show Obama winning North Dakota.

More importantly, Obama will have a tough time winning Ohio. He has no traction amongst the trade unionists and rural whites in this state. And without Ohio, Democrats can't break through the Red-Blue divide.

3/7/08, 4:45 PM

Anonymous RKU said...

More importantly, Obama will have a tough time winning Ohio.

Well, Obama lost the non-black Ohio Democratic vote by 30 points to Hillary. So I'd say "Yep!"...

3/7/08, 7:26 PM

Anonymous dave david said...

Steve, the "conservatives" failed to stop mass non-white immigration. That was national suicide and checkmate. The writing is on the wall - family formation trendlines or not.

Mass immigration has turned all the big Electoral college heavyweights blue. California, Florida, New York and yes, Texas are all going to go blue in 2008.

Demography is destiny. Duh, duh, duh, idiot conservatives.

Here is a link from a top space ad at Drudge this morning, a new book written by Senator David Boren:

http://www.alettertoamerica.org/book.html

Quote from Boren: "America is in trouble because its people are losing faith in the country’s future."

Gee, Steve, do you think that statement has any connection to the study from 2007 that found Los Angeles has an extremely low sense of community and social cohesion due to mass immigration?

Do we think America's people might be losing faith in the country's future because the country has been radically transformed and is going to be majority non-white very soon, and the history of majority non-white societies is clearly not encouraging at all?

Inquiring minds may want to visit www.transparency.org and count the number of majority non-white nations that appear near the top of the list of most transparent societies in the world.

3/7/08, 11:44 PM

Anonymous Anonymous said...

It seems impossible that America will ever have a truly -popular- president again. We will have a president that a few like, and many more dislike each time. Ah, the benefits of diversity.

3/8/08, 12:33 AM

Anonymous SFG said...

The country's problems and lack of faith have more to do with the fact that we've gone through an entire economic cycle without most people seeing any upside.

These days a crappy economy elects Democrats.

3/8/08, 3:40 AM

Anonymous jofferson said...

Everybody is popular in the hindsight of their admirers. I wouldn't be surprised if even George W. is treated more kindly by history than he has been by the media and popular fanfare.

The Republican Party might be fissioning a little bit. There are now the Lou Dobbs nativist Populists, who think differently than the NeoCons. And then there are free market folks who are more in line with the NeoCons for now, but not all free marketers support "invade the world" military intervention.

Is Hillary the Affordable Family Formation candidate? She is allied with the Unions and is against NAFTA, as is Obama.

3/8/08, 6:05 AM

Anonymous numbskull said...

"More importantly, Obama will have a tough time winning Ohio.

Well, Obama lost the non-black Ohio Democratic vote by 30 points to Hillary. So I'd say "Yep!"..."

I don't understand why any white is voting for Obama. He and his wife (and their entourage) seem to have nothing but contempt for whites. So why should whites want to hurt themselves by voting for him?

3/8/08, 7:29 AM

Anonymous numbskull said...

"and the history of majority non-white societies is clearly not encouraging at all? "

You bet! It may be boring, but the recent poster childr of this exact trend is South Africa, with Rhodesia before that. Decolonisation in Africa is the template for the US, thanks to the liberal establishment.

But then the US had a huge role in this decolonisation process so I guess it makes sense that it is aplied to the US itself. Anyway, you can kiss all that military power good bye.

3/8/08, 7:33 AM

Blogger Dutch Boy said...

I wonder how much longer the Republican hustle can last. I gave up on them long ago and I ought to be a stereotypical Republican voter: white, male, Christian, married, large family, veteran, gun owner,single income, middle class, college-educated (I'm a walking stereotype!). There have to be plenty more people out there who are done trying to find the pea under the Republican shell!

3/8/08, 11:08 AM

Anonymous Lucius Vorenus said...

A little off-topic, but two points:

1) As usual, I feel like you have the causation backwards here - it would be my position that childbearing Caucasians [overwhelmingly Republican] seek out those areas where childbearing is affordable, and childless Caucasians [overwhelmingly Democrat] seek out those areas where childbearing is prohibitively expensive.

2) But, having said that, let's assume for the sake of argument that a lowered "cost of family formation" might somehow induce childless Caucasians [and Asians] to start making babies again. Then my question would be: What would the campaign platform of a "lowering the cost of family formation" candidate look like?

If your answer is something along the lines of, "Increase the child tax credit from $1,000 per year to $12,000 per year", then, ah, you're already a Republican and you're preaching to the choir.

3/8/08, 12:09 PM

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