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"Why did Ivins recently call his counselor from 2000?"

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Anonymous RKU said...

Well, I personally think the FBI case against Ivins is so totally feeble and thin, that's its coming close to being "laughed out of court."

Even the MSM media isn't falling for the official spin this time like they did with Hatfill. There was a great front-page story in the NYT a few days about about all the other random people "nailed" by the FBI for the anthrax attacks over the years, some of whom drank themselves to death, a little like what happened to Ivins.

Personally, I can't see why Steve cares enough about the case to bet so much of his personal credibility on Ivins' guilt, but each to his own I suppose.

As I mentioned before, it's starting to look like the FBI didn't realize that Ivins' had a very strong alibi for when the letters were mailed in Princeton. But maybe he built a teleportation machine in his spare-time as well.

http://www.salon.com/opinion/greenwald/2008/08/10/anthrax/index.html

8/13/08, 6:06 AM

Blogger Garland said...

As long as Posner and Bugliosi don't talk about Bush v. Gore.

8/13/08, 6:39 AM

Blogger Cossack in a Kilt said...

How about a national commission to investigate how our security clearances are granted?

"Oh, okay, so the terrorist responsible for the mailing of the anthrax letters---for bringing biological terrorism to the continental United States---was a highly vetted government scientist working at a secure facility with a baker's dozen of the world's most lethal natural and engineered biotoxins. But he was crazy, and so it's not our fault."

Move along folks, nothing to see here, just some crazy man is all.

8/13/08, 10:34 AM

Anonymous Tommy said...

Did you mean Richard Posner the judge or Gerald Posner, the guy who wrote Case Closed? I know you wrote Richard, but the pairing w/ Bugliosi makes me think you meant Gerald.

Anyway, for what it's worth, I saw Gerald Posner on TV last week. He's very skeptical of the government's case against Ivins.

8/13/08, 11:12 AM

Anonymous beowulf said...

Tellingly, Ivins' therapist in 2000 went to the cops, too, because Ivins had told her he intended to poison a young woman if she lost a soccer match. Fortunately, her team won.

OK, the scary thing here is, what the hell do you have to do lose a security clearance?

The anthrax case was an all out, no expense spared, red ball of red ball investigations. And yet, we have here two separate red flags the FBI (or whoever it is, if anybody, who keeps an eye on security clearances) should have caught years ago but didn't.

If the Feds aren't screening medical records (hmm, he's seeing a therapist--- does he a have a drug or mental problem, let's look into this), then at the very least they should be cross-referencing police reports with the names of folks with security clearances. The therapist went to the cops and somewhere in that police department is a report with his name on it that the Feds should have seen.

I'll make it easy for them, the FBI can send local PDs crime report templates with a big check box with "is suspect a federal employee or contractor?".

If that box is checked, get the agent in charge of busting college kids downloading music to take an afternoon off to see if there's a security clearance issue.

8/13/08, 7:49 PM

Blogger A.C. McCloud said...

Senator Grassley asked a good question--Ivins by default had a top secret clearance (we would presume), which requires an FBI background check. They are routinely updated (not sure of the interval). One might think that before he was allowed to handle the evidence anthrax in 2001 they would have re-vetted his clearance, since they gave him a lie detector test (which he passed).

He may be the killer (he seems crazy enough and had access if not much of a motive) but there's still a question as to why the FBI didn't catch his 2000 prevarications when they allowed him to become part of the investigation team.

8/13/08, 7:51 PM

Blogger Ronduck said...

Ivins isn't the only one whose therapist reported him to police, didn't the Korean who shot up Virginia Tech also get reported as well?

8/14/08, 6:16 AM

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