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"PBS: The "Greed Is Good" 1980s as a war on anti-Semitism"

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Anonymous Bert said...

I got a kick out of this one line:

"You didn't see a black face in a law firm unless it was the mailroom."

Unlike today, where you won't see a black face anywhere at all because the mailroom is completely staffed with Central Americans and Filipinos.

1/2/14, 6:43 PM

Anonymous Anonymous said...

The uniquely-persecuted narrative is just and adaptation of the "chosen" meme. Being chosen by some magic volcano fairy isn't tenable in the modern age so Jews came up with the persecution narrative which serves the exact same purpose -- namely, the right to wrong gentiles. Any who deny the narrative are considered to be members of Ammalek and Ammelek must be destroyed (as the "good" book says).

1/2/14, 7:25 PM

Anonymous ben tillman said...

"This isn't giving me an erection."

Joe Flom tossed the brief back across his desk with a scowl at his 20-something associate Stuart Shapiro.

"I'm not surprised at your age," Shapiro said without missing a beat.


Does this clown really not know what a comma is? Does he not know that "I'm not surprised at your age" and "I'm not surprised, at your age" mean different things and that the context indicates that his character was saying the latter? That's just brutal writing.

1/2/14, 7:38 PM

Anonymous Anonymous said...

Gotta love Jewish humor, think of how boring things must have been when those prudish "WASPs" were culturally dominant!

1/2/14, 7:39 PM

Anonymous Shawn said...

You will have a field day with The Wolf of Wall Street staring Leonardo DiCaprio...

1/2/14, 7:58 PM

Anonymous Anonymous said...

"Well into the 1970's anyone who wasn't a member of the Protestant ascendency was excluded from the bar, bench, etc,,"

Then how come Catholic, Irish-descended JFK was elected in 1960?

1/2/14, 8:02 PM

Blogger Modern Abraham said...

Based just on prose style, Close strongly reminds me of Buzz Bissinger. This will not end well. Psychologically. Or sartorially.

1/2/14, 8:24 PM

Anonymous Mr. Anon said...

""When I came to New York in the '70s, the WASP aristocracy still reigned," the Lucky Sperm Club's Shapiro recalls. "You didn't see an Asian face above Canal Street. You didn't see a black face in a law firm unless it was the mailroom."

I wonder how many black faces are to be found in predominantly jewish law-firms?

1/2/14, 8:31 PM

Anonymous bjdubbs said...

Martin Sosnoff, who writes for Forbes and was a raider in the 1980s, described M&A in the 1970s as a "get the goyim" strategy. That's from his book Humble on Wall Street.

1/2/14, 8:45 PM

Anonymous Anonymous said...

"Well into the 1970's anyone who wasn't a member of the Protestant ascendency was excluded from the bar, bench, etc,,"

In 1792, twenty-four brokers came together to found what would become the NY Stock Exchange. They signed the Buttonwood Agreement. Perusing the names shows that the list of 24 was not restricted to Protestants. At least 5 names, twenty percent, on this list are Jewish. I bet Jews did not come close to making up 20 percent of the general population.

1/2/14, 8:49 PM

Anonymous Anonymous said...

Is is just a coincidence that the emergence of this new class of financial entrepreneurs coincided with the offshoring of much of America's productive manufacturing?

If there were more money to be made from swapping and acquiring properties, then what would be the point of investing out of a sense of loyalty to people or a community?

1/2/14, 8:55 PM

Anonymous Harold said...

Gotta detest Jewish humour, think of how pleasant things must have been when those genteel "WASPs" were culturally dominant!

1/2/14, 9:01 PM

Anonymous ben tillman said...

It was fitting that a luminary in M&A, with an initial as a first name and a Roman numeral after his surname, would tip his hat to a Jewish lawyer at this club founded in response to discrimination after an M&A victory against an established elite.

That's atrocious writing. The modifiers are misplaced; did the discrimination really occur after the M&A victory [sic]? And, of course, the White lawyer didn't tip his hat after a victory; he tipped his hat after a loss. That's painful to read.

1/2/14, 9:10 PM

Anonymous Anonymous said...

As recently as the 1970s, Jews and all others not of the white Anglo-Saxon Protestant ascendancy were still excluded from any position of real power at the bar, on the bench, at banks and in boardrooms.

This lie is too old and tiresome. Truth: discrimination (i.e., exclusion) of Jews by WASPs was nowhere near as strong bad as Jews' ethnic nepotism and exclusion of WASPs.

1/2/14, 9:23 PM

Anonymous David said...

> That's atrocious writing. <

Keep your anti-Semitic remarks to yourself, pal.

1/2/14, 9:35 PM

Anonymous Anonymous said...

Thus, for instance, much of 1960s-70s feminism was driven by Jewish women angry at Jewish men for marrying shiksas, but much of that energy got rechanneled outward.

I'm not sure that's right. Jews marrying shiksas increased following 60s/70s feminism as feminism resulted in more shiksas going to college and working in major cities.

1/2/14, 9:46 PM

Anonymous Anonymous said...

From 'is it good for the Jews?' to 'is greed good for the Jews?'

1/2/14, 9:48 PM

Anonymous Anonymous said...

Wolf of Wall Street, Bling Ring, Spring Breakers... we get it, we get it.

Too much excess. But what is to be done?

1/2/14, 9:57 PM

Anonymous Anonymous said...

Wasps favored wasps but they built the entire edifice. Without their achievement, others would not have had a chance to work there in the first place.

Only fools build something great and then hand it over to others.

Well, wasps did just that, so I guess they did turn out to be fools.

Can you imagine Jews passing Hollywood over to blacks, Mexicans, and Arabs?

1/2/14, 10:00 PM

Blogger Whiskey said...

And this leads to something I've been thinking about for some time.

Where is power in today's society?

Mostly it seems in regulatory bodies, judges, the permanent bureaucracy, and deal-making sharp guys. Like Flom and the rest.

What is really striking is not just that Jews abhor the military (in France and Germany before 1933 they did not, see Dreyfus and Hitler's WWI Commander) at least in the US. It is that the Ivy League grads also abhor it. Are removed from it. View the military with distaste and disdain and contempt. Hillary Clinton's use of the uniformed military as waiters in a deliberate and demeaning way is indicative of this mindset as is Valerie Jarret's similar attitude.

You would think guys with guns and ships and planes and subs who blow stuff up real good (apologies to Billy Sol Hurok) would be viewed as a path to power. But they are not. Jews and Ivy Leaguers alike view the military as anti-power; where only dimwits go when they can't make a killing on Wall Street. This is true even or especially with political guys.

To me this says American nationalism has eroded to the point of nothingness. The path to power in Western society traditionally has been participation on the battlefield. A willingness to fight for the nation and people. That we have not only Jews but also Ivy Leaguers (the elite) viewing being a Michael Milken as a path to power rather than an Ike or Grant, is frankly a terrible sign that America as a nation ceased to exist in the minds of people already.

I'm with Derb on this one. The vast majority of Whites don't oppose mass immigration, or any other nation-hurting stuff (like Wall Street sharp-deals) because they ceased caring about the nation years ago. You don't fight about stuff you don't care about. Instead you have America substitutes like "Raider Nation" and the like. You did not see that when there was an American Nation in the hearts and minds of Americans.

1/2/14, 10:03 PM

Anonymous ben tillman said...

"'When I came to New York in the '70s, the WASP aristocracy still reigned,' the Lucky Sperm Club's Shapiro recalls. "You didn't see an Asian face above Canal Street. You didn't see a black face in a law firm unless it was the mailroom."

I wonder how many black faces are to be found in predominantly jewish law-firms?


Don't know about now, but there weren't many in the late 1980's. When I lived in Manhattan, one of my roommates worked at Skadden, and I'd occasionally stop by the office for the big Friday happy hours. I don't recall seeing any Black faces, although it's possible there were some there.

After a year in Manhattan, I went to law school, and in reviewing law-firm data I noticed plenty of large, predominantly Jewish New York firms that had no Black lawyers. There was one firm that stood out with 200 lawyers, of whom 170+ were Jewish and none were Black. But I do have an anecdote about affirmative action.

I worked at a law firm in Manhattan for a year between college and law school. This firm typically hired graduates of top schools (Williams, Brown, Smith, Yale), who would then work there for a year before going on to law school.

When I left, I recommended my Black friend who was a year behind me at Brown. He was a really good guy. The principal of the firm said, "I've been looking for someone like him for a long time." I also recall that this same lawyer had lamented the fact that he once got stuck trying a case before "a dumb-dumb Black judge in Virginia". He knew the score when it came to race and intelligence.

The point is that even Jews who might be interested in "affirmative action" for Blacks knew that Blacks with requisite ability existed only in tiny numbers. Shapiro's insinuation that the absence of Blacks was due to "WASP" evil is a big lie.

1/2/14, 10:19 PM

Anonymous Anonymous said...

http://politicker.com/2014/01/de-blasio-inauguration-starts-with-plantation-rhetoric/

He must be antisemitic to characterize Jewish-dominated NY as a plantation. Sheeeeeeeeet. Massuh Bloomberg, he be gone.

But we know it's all for show. No way Blasio is gonna mess with rich Jews.

1/2/14, 10:32 PM

Anonymous Anonymous said...

"charging the borrower (Perelman) atmospheric interest rates "

Presumably the writer means "stratospheric."

1/3/14, 12:00 AM

Anonymous Rifleman said...

I don't know if you can appreciate how genuinely thrilling it was for many Jews to have Jews takeover the allegedly anti-semitic Disney corporation.

Michael Eisner et al were heroes of biblical proportions to some.

The goyim vanquished again!

1/3/14, 12:22 AM

Blogger Steve Sailer said...

Right, I read a book on the Disney takeover as well a a couple on Revlon back in the 1980s.

1/3/14, 12:25 AM

Anonymous David said...

A producer in the Eisner years appeared on a late night talk show and boasted that "Pretty Woman" (Julia Roberts) was funded by Disney "and it's a picture about a hooker!"

1/3/14, 12:33 AM

Blogger Ali said...

" Sir James Goldsmith, a British mogul with a secret terror of rubber bands"

Best sentence fragment of 2014.

1/3/14, 1:46 AM

Anonymous Anonymous said...

" Sir James Goldsmith, a British mogul with a secret terror of rubber bands"

You'll put your eye out!

1/3/14, 3:52 AM

Anonymous Steiner said...

Those terrible WASPs, blue-eyed devils every one. Yet for centuries, millions of Jews clamoured for admission to the United States: history's greatest example of mass insanity? AmeriKKKa: universally reviled, yet everybody wants to live there, and nobody ever leaves.

1/3/14, 4:15 AM

Anonymous Anonymous said...

Back in the day, I worked on some consulting gig for Arthur Andersen at the MGM Building at 55th and 6th. It was interesting riding the elevator with Mike Tyson and talking with Walter Matthau in the lobby. However, a colleague from my office worked on a different project in that building. A secret project. He later told us it was the Ivan Boesky / Michael Milken investigation. As a rookie hire with the firm he spent his first 6 months making copies. That's right, operating a copying machine for the SEC/FBI/CIA/NSA/U.N.C.L.E./Control investigation of Boesky/Milken. We knew something was going on in that office but those guys working there never said anything until they were given the green light to do so. The taxpayer got their money's worth of silence from those guys.

1/3/14, 4:15 AM

Anonymous Anonymous said...

Well-known WASP Sigmund Freud can help us understand some of the projection going on here.

WASPs were in fact too nice. This was obviously exploited by scrappier groups.

1/3/14, 5:08 AM

Anonymous Anonymous said...

Maybe so many Jews are socialists because they know their people will disgrace themselves in an unfettered marketplace-sort of like why so many lace-curtain-Irish women supported the temperance movement.

1/3/14, 6:44 AM

Anonymous Anonymous said...

"Is is just a coincidence that the emergence of this new class of financial entrepreneurs coincided with the offshoring of much of America's productive manufacturing?"

Maybe. Goldsmith was one of the greatest opponents of outsourcing. But he was also European, which perhaps gave him a different perspective than American Jews.

1/3/14, 6:48 AM

Blogger Unknown said...

One of the jews' most remarkable achievements is the creation of the myth that only ignoramuses and Nazis are "anti-semites". In reality, if anyone wants to look more deeply into the question, the list of "anti-semites" reads like a who's who of the most illustrious men and builders of Western Civilization. Voltaire, in his prognostications, alas, is being proven correct.

1/3/14, 9:19 AM

Blogger Tom Scarlett said...

Martin Peretz, super-Zionist, was a big pal and co-investor with Boesky. So the 12/15/86 issue of the New Republic had an article, "Apres Ivan," that sneered, "Corporate America -- the folks who helped bring you a record trade deficit -- is ecstatic about the Boesky affair...The idea is that all of these parvenus, many of whom share a certain ethnic persuasion, will be thrown in jail, and this bothersome takeover business will be over."

1/3/14, 12:51 PM

Blogger Gubbler of the Society of Reformed Chechenistics said...

Most people cannot be persuaded that 'greed is gOOd', but they can be made to feel 'greed is cOOl'. I mean who remembers the Charlie Sheen/Martin Sheen character from WALL STREET?

The issue isn't so much morality as shorality. Gekko put on one heck of a show.

It's like most people don't think about the morality of the homo agenda. They are just wowed by the rainbow colors, just like the masses were once wowed by red commie flags and Nazi banners.
What is 'cool' trumps what is 'good'. Cool becomes good.... or cood. But rarely does good in and of itself become cool or gool. But then is Gulen.

1/3/14, 1:08 PM

Anonymous Mr. Anon said...

After the Millken/Boesky scandal broke in 1986, the NYT was having a bout of the vapors over the possibility that the shenanigans of jewish operators on Wall Street would lead to anti-semitism. The illegality of thier actions was not what bothered the Times, mind you, but the potential "backlash". At least I think that was the view held by the Gray Lady, as I heard it from an aquaintence of mine, and he never had a thought in his head that he did not get from the "paper of record".

1/3/14, 1:37 PM

Anonymous Simon in London said...

"Or maybe it was actually Eastern European Jews getting back at the suaver Western European Jews who had gotten to America first and long looked down upon the newcomers as bumptious."

Hmm. That explains a lot.

1/3/14, 1:51 PM

Anonymous Anonymous said...

Right, I read a book on the Disney takeover as well a a couple on Revlon back in the 1980s.

Steve, by any chance do you have the titles of those books?

1/3/14, 4:28 PM

Anonymous Rifleman said...

Also don't forget Alan Dershowitz going after the author of the book "Den of Thieves".

James B. Stewart was vilified as an anti Semite for daring to notice Jewish financial criminals and putting Warren Buffet in a positive light.

Also there was some Jewish dean of a college back in the 1990s? on C Span who took satisfaction in pointing out that all? of the players in the S&L scandals were WASPs. He held this as a rebuke to all the anti-semites who noticed the Jews in the Wall Street scandals.

Leon Blotstein, that was the guy.

PS, the squiggly names I have to type into the box to prove I'm not an evil robot are becoming unreadable.

And I don't think that's exclusively due to my own mental deterioration.

1/3/14, 5:58 PM

Anonymous Jake said...

What's odd is to read an article where virtually all the names mentioned (on both sides of the battle) are Jewish, but where all the villains are unnamed, invisible WASPs.

Those WASPs at Revlon must have been bitter anti-Semites to want to keep Peril-man from taking over!!! Couldn't have anything to do with what was best for the company, or maybe just personal greed. Nope, had to be anti-Semitism!

1/3/14, 9:53 PM

Anonymous ben tillman said...

Also there was some Jewish dean of a college back in the 1990s? on C Span who took satisfaction in pointing out that all? of the players in the S&L scandals were WASPs.

I didn't know it was possible to "point out" something that's not true.

1/4/14, 7:53 AM

Blogger Gubbler of the Society of Reformed Chechenistics said...

This is a new variation of the old canard: "Jews got good at finance and business cuz they were not allowed to plow and til the land."
(Wonder it didn't work for gypsies.)

Now, it's "Jews got so rich and greedy cuz they weren't allowed to hit the golf balls on the green lawns of bluebloods."
(Wonder why it didn't work with Polish Catholic Americans who weren't welcome either.)

"Wasps (defacto)made me do it!!"

And this is the sort of people American conservatives are most slavish to. What a bunch of dummies.

1/4/14, 10:49 AM

Anonymous Anonymous said...

"the junk bond mergers & acquisition boom was often justified as a war on anti-Semitism in American business life."

It's pre-emptive self-defence as that period is the key moment in the destruction of America.

Prioritizing shareholder value and making hostile acquisitions so much easier *forced* off-shoring even by companies that didn't want to.

I doubt they intended to destroy America. It's just they (and non-Jewish sociopaths) were less motivated to conserve it and that's all it takes to destroy a civilization - a ruling elite that isn't actively seeking to preserve it.

I expect Sheba and Sumer ended the same way.

1/4/14, 1:30 PM

Anonymous Anonymous said...

"pointing out that all? of the players in the S&L scandals were WASPs."

And 1000s went to jail. I wonder if the big Wall St. banks took over that segment of the market.

1/4/14, 1:43 PM

Anonymous ben tillman said...

Also there was some Jewish dean of a college back in the 1990s? on C Span who took satisfaction in pointing out that all? of the players in the S&L scandals were WASPs.

That's ludicrous. The owner of San Jacinto Savings & Loan was backed by Michael Milken, and he's a quarter Cherokee and may or may not have Jewish ancestry.

1/4/14, 5:49 PM

Anonymous David said...

Milken may or may not have been Jewish like Milk may or may not have been gay.

1/4/14, 6:16 PM

Anonymous Douglas Knight said...

Bergerac is Basque. tip: his actor brother is better documented.

1/4/14, 7:58 PM

Anonymous Anonymous said...

Re: "Can you imagine Jews passing Hollywood over to blacks, Mexicans, and Arabs?"

Unless they've all decamped to Israel by that time, the Jews will be passing Hollywood and a great deal else to the blacks and Mexicans.

Because the latter will be taking it by force.

1/4/14, 9:49 PM

Anonymous ben tillman said...

Milken may or may not have been Jewish like Milk may or may not have been gay.

Sorry for the ambiguity regarding the antecedent. Of course, Milken's Jewish. It's the other guy -- the guy whom Milken backed, i.e., the guy who owned San Jacinto -- who was part-Cherokee and possibly part-Jewish.

1/5/14, 8:10 AM

Anonymous Anonymous said...

The gentile-Jewish conflict in M&A wasn't between Jewish and non-Jewish owners. It was between gentile workers and Jewish managers and owners. Take the movie Wall Street as an (admittedly fictional) example. The takeover of the airplane was funded by raiding the workers' overfunded pension plan. The pension plan was a defined benefit plan. The law said that an annuity need to be purchased which would pay out the benefits. The cost of purchasing the annuity is less than what was in the pension plan. So, the excess in the pension plan gets transferred from the gentiles to the Jews. Then, there is also the issue that the gentile workers lose their jobs when the airline is broken up. If those workers manage to find new jobs, those new jobs won't pay as much as what they were making.

As a general rule, M&A frequently looks to profit from the deals by reducing labor costs. Some of this is by automation which I have no qualms with. Some of this is by simply paying the workers less. The effect of paying workers less is to transfer wealth from gentiles to Jews.

1/5/14, 1:16 PM

Anonymous Anonymous said...

As a general rule, M&A frequently looks to profit from the deals by reducing labor costs. Some of this is by automation which I have no qualms with. Some of this is by simply paying the workers less. The effect of paying workers less is to transfer wealth from gentiles to Jews.

I know of exact examples of this in silicon valley. The big advantage the M&A and Jewish manager types had was they did not have any scruples about it. It didn't seem to bother them that a workforce that had previously been effective and effusive in their praise of their previous manager now despised management and their plans. As far as I could see it was just a matter of take the money and run. Of course, companies to which these things happen fall fast.

It might be a short-term Jewish advantage that you have already internalized "everybody dislikes me", so why not embark on a course of action that will result in lots of people disliking you? It's only the money that counts, right?

1/5/14, 4:38 PM

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