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"Christopher Hitchens on Obama"

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Blogger James said...

Use the HTML "blockquote".

1/8/08, 8:00 PM

Anonymous Evil Neocon said...

Steve -- no worries it is content not format that matters.

Mitt does not need to apologize for anything. His father marched in civil rights marches in the 1960's. Which took guts particularly for a Republican.

Hitch does not understand the nature of Christianity and Judaism. Which is a comfort to people facing not only their OWN but loved one's mortality. One's own mortality is bad enough. But those you love? Judeo-Christian religion offers the idea that they and you will not cease to exist forever.

Hitch is also contemptuous of the brave men of the Southern Christian Leadership Council. Who took up the fight against segregation particularly in the South because there was no one else organized to do it.

He's also shorting Dr. King. Dr. King came down squarely on the side of assimilation. Rejecting identity politics and separatism that have plagued blacks ever since.

Given that Dr. King had a very good idea that his fight to end segregation AND black separatism was both good for the Nation and Blacks, and likely to get him killed, he deserves his place of pride.

Even if he's too Christian for Hitch's comfort. Hitch's intellectual blind spot is that he can't acknowledge that religious people are capable of great things just like atheists.

1/8/08, 9:53 PM

Anonymous Fred said...

Steve,

Bret Stephens's column in Tuesday's WSJ about Obama also touches on the Kenyan chaos: "Great (American) Expectations: Barack Obama shows why foreigners consider us naive.". An excerpt:

"Barack Obama, still fresh from his victory in Iowa last week and confident of another in New Hampshire tonight, has as his signature campaign theme the promise to "end the division" in America. Notice the irony: The scale of his Iowa victory, in a state that's 94% white, is perhaps the clearest indication so far that the division Mr. Obama promises to end has largely been put to rest.

Meanwhile, in Kenya last week a mob surrounded a church in which, according to an Associated Press report, "hundreds of terrified people had taken refuge." The church was put to flame, while the mob used machetes, Hutu-style, to hack to death whoever tried to escape. The killers in this case were of the Luo tribe, their victims were of the Kikuyu, and the issue over which they are bleeding is their own presidential election.

When foreigners assail Americans for being naive, it is often on account of contrasts like these. A nation in which the poor are defined by an income level that in most countries would make them prosperous is a nation that has all but forgotten the true meaning of poverty. A nation in which obesity is largely a problem of the poor (and anorexia of the upper-middle class) does not understand the word "hunger." A nation in which the most celebrated recent cases of racism, at Duke University or in Jena, La., are wholly or mostly contrived is not a racist nation. A nation in which our "division" is defined by the vitriol of Ann Coulter or James Carville is not a truly divided one--at least while Mr. Carville is married to Republican operative Mary Matalin and Ms. Coulter is romantically linked with New York City Democrat Andrew Stein."

1/8/08, 10:10 PM

Anonymous Anonymous said...

A group of people put to flame another group of people seeking sanctuary in a church? Oh goodness, they must be Muslims. If not, then I'm sure they are crytpo-Muslims. Such things cannot happen unless the bad guys are the muzzies.


JD

1/9/08, 4:02 AM

Anonymous dearieme said...

Evil neocon is right: King was top notch. The contrast with JFK is striking. Even more striking is the retrospective sentimentalisation of JFK.

1/9/08, 4:11 AM

Anonymous Udolpho said...

Still Hitchens is correct that white liberal columnists and reporters love to effuse about them spiritual darkies while whites who proclaim the same beliefs are regarded as semi-retarded cousin-fuckers.

1/9/08, 9:25 AM

Anonymous David said...

More BS from Evil Neocon:

Mitt does not need to apologize for anything. His father marched in civil rights marches in the 1960's. Which took guts particularly for a Republican.

It's a fabrication, as was revealed worldwide almost a month ago.

Evil just can't help himself, can he? He "misspeaks" with almost every sentence he writes.

Nice twist about how supporting civil rights took guts particularly for a Republican. In truth, Republicans were in the forefront of the eventual passage of the 1964 Civil Rights Act. Look at Bush the Elder's record. But in Evil Neocon's mythology, it must be that country club WASPs are the natural epitome of blue-blooded Nazis.

Here's another slice of EC BS, just at random:

He's also shorting Dr. King etc.

Here, Martin Epstein on King. Not a conservative, pro-freedom hero. But definitely a neocon hero. (The 1964 Civil Rights Act - which Ayn Rand called the worst violation of property rights in American history - was "drafted in the conference room of Religious Action Center of Reform Judaism," along with the 1965 Voting Rights Act.)

More:

the brave men of the Southern Christian Leadership Council. Who took up the fight against segregation particularly in the South because there was no one else organized to do it.

Organized by the CPUSA!

Here: "[Stanley] Levison was instrumental in all the activities of the Southern Christian Leadership Conference (SCLC), the organization established by King and other Southern black preachers to further the cause of civil rights. He professionalized the fund raising of the organization and took on much of the publicity tasks, in addition to serving as King's literary agent. He was also a close adviser of King."

Evil Neocon is a truthful man: his nickname of "Neocon" is accurate. His readers should realize they are being fed the neocon slant on everything.

1/9/08, 1:56 PM

Anonymous fifi said...

"Evil Neocon is a truthful man: his nickname of "Neocon" is accurate. His readers should realize they are being fed the neocon slant on everything."

David, now you have me worried that there must be something terribly wrong with Romney b/c EN is such an avid supporter. I mean he's even making Mitt out to be the son of a civil rights hero. I figured Romney to be the least hawkish in the field of neocons and neosocialists campaigning as Republicans but maybe I'm missing something.

Get your own candidate, Evil! Romney's spoken for. : p

1/10/08, 12:34 AM

Anonymous David said...

fifi:

Two words.

Ron.

Paul.

:-)

1/10/08, 6:08 PM

Anonymous fifi said...

Yes, David, I remember Ron Paul. He goes too far in his abrupt withdrawal from Iraq approach. I know everyone left is pretty much committed to neocon principles but I'm looking for a lesser evil neocon who might be willing to push for American interests with free trade and halt illegal immigration. Paul has interesting ideas but he's not electable and, like I said, I disagree with his Iraq strategy.

1/10/08, 9:33 PM

Blogger Thad Anderson said...

Glad to see someone else found Hitchens' column on Obama's race and religion offensive. I imagine that the lack of other blog responses correlates to his declining influence, but who knows.

Excerpt from my blog:

"Speaking of Obama, Christopher Hitchens has written yet another bizarre column that begs the question: "Why on Earth is this guy being paid to write about American politics?!" Not only does Hitchens claim that Obama should not be considered black, but he also seems to have a problem with the fact that the Obamas attend a predominantly black church. Of course, the fact that they go to church at all probably offends Hitchens, in and of itself. But aside from Hitchens' atheist fundamentalism, does he really not understand why it is notable that the United States has its first black front-runner? Hitchens asks "why is a man with a white mother considered to be 'black,' anyway?" Is he really completely unaware of the fact that millions of biracial people were the victims of legally-sanctioned discrimination as "blacks" over most of the course of American history? If we were living in a vacuum where the past was completely irrelevant, maybe Hitchens would have a point; since we aren't, one has to wonder how a major columnist has such a deaf ear to the historical context."

1/11/08, 11:00 PM

Blogger Steve Sailer said...

I think you kind of missed the point, Thad, which is that Hitchens, a notoriously psychologically unbalanced individual traumatized by a family ethnic background that strikes more stable people (such as his brother Peter) as perfectly non-traumatizing, resembles Obama. (Indeed, Obama's half-brother Mark is kind of like Peter Hitchens.)

By the commutative property, that means a potential President of the United State is a lot like Christopher Hitchens, which is a scary thought, indeed.

1/11/08, 11:57 PM

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