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"Bad schooling ideas never die"

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Blogger Stopped Clock said...

All readers of this blog may be interested in reading http://diversityteam.blogspot.com/ , a blog that deals with similar subject matter but which is ideologically more or less the opposite of this one.

2/6/09, 1:41 PM

Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anyone interested in good schooling ideas should read Hess and Petrilli, "Wrong Turn on School Reform," in Policy Review.

2/6/09, 1:46 PM

Anonymous Anonymous said...

In the face of your claim that there is nothing new under the sun in education, most Education Colleges in our universities do not accept transfer credits if they are over 5-7 years old. Apparently anything older than that is just too out of date. The only other colleges with similar short sunsets for transfer credits are I.T. colleges, because the rapid change in computer-related material.

2/6/09, 10:55 PM

Anonymous Anonymous said...

As you say education is an old, old business.
It is likely that the first schools developeed with the first usage of written alphabets - and that puts them around 5000 years old.
The ancient Egyptians certainly had schools as we know them today (ie classrooms of children aged from 5 to early teenagers) and it is well known that the Greeks and Romans developed pedagogy into a fine art.
That said, teaching a child to read and write (which is of course an unnatural and uninstinctive thing to do thing to do), must have always been hard work and throughout the the very long history of education no 'magic bullet' answer has ever been found, only the realisation that certain pupils pick up education quicker than others.
This was, in fact, the first motivation behinfd IQ tests when Binet in France (at a time when educational psychology was firsy being developed), wished to establish a scientific basis for grading school children and giving graded cohorts the special attention each deserved and needed.
Thus, originally, IQ had nothing to do with distinguishing 'high-fliers' but was a way of identifying the slower pupils.

2/7/09, 6:01 AM

Anonymous Anonymous said...

"In the face of your claim that there is nothing new under the sun in education, most Education Colleges in our universities do not accept transfer credits if they are over 5-7 years old." (Anon)

Right, what changed is the madness and intensity of the anti-white indoctrination programs. The fear is that anyone that missed the last 5 years might not be anti-white enough. New forms of political correctness are being invented all the time, and generally build on the old ideas.

2/7/09, 6:48 AM

Anonymous Anonymous said...

What I found most striking about the quoted article from Time Magazine was not the silly experiment in education it described (the liberal principal of my own Long Island high school basically ruined the place before fleeing to head up a school in a more liberal community in Colarado), but the relatively evenhanded and informative nature of the article itself. It is real reporting, or something close to it, giving the reader enough information to draw his own conclusions about whether or not these schools are a good idea. It sounds like the Time Magazine I read faithfully throughout my childhood and teenage years. Time Magazine's content today consists mostly of gossip and political spin, which makes it a poor source of news (which is why I have stopped reading it, except in doctor's waiting rooms).

2/7/09, 9:36 AM

Anonymous none of the above said...

I wonder what schools would look like, if the only thing that mattered in school policy were the results. Because it's very clear that many school reforms, and almost all mainstream discussions, are all about identifying the reformers/speakers/journalists as being on the side of the angels. If this should happen to help some kids learn to read, of course, that would also be okay.

There's a bitter irony here, too. To a first approximation, it's the black and brown kids that are getting a crap deal from public education. But any reform that actually helps them, but also leaves the reformer susceptible to charges of racism, is simply never going to happen.

2/8/09, 12:28 PM

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