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"Municipal coup"

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Anonymous Anonymous said...

...the black underclass? They hate servile work...


How in Hades did that little quip make it past Komment Kontrol?!?

Sheesh.

12/15/11, 6:01 PM

Anonymous Bantam said...

Seems like some municipal coup is in the offing in Arizona.

12/15/11, 6:17 PM

Blogger mr_evergreen said...

How do you know that all Blacks hate servile work? And who is to say that Whites like servile work? People will do whatever they have to do. I see Black people doing servile jobs like being janitors and some of the maintenance work at my university. Some people might hire immigrants because one could pay them less.

12/15/11, 6:41 PM

Anonymous Sambhadi Humptamunki said...

"Some people might hire immigrants because one could pay them less."

No, really? I'm surprised Steve has never noticed this before.

12/15/11, 7:26 PM

Anonymous Anonymous said...

I think you mean Oak Bluffs on Martha's Vineyard.

12/15/11, 7:28 PM

Anonymous Aaron in Israel said...

Judging by the models in the ads, they're aiming for a half black clientele.

Meaning that half the models are black? That could mean just that they're aiming for a white liberal clientele, couldn't it? Lots of advertising in America featuring blacks seems to be aimed at white people.

Another example of the same fallacy: Republican politicians try to prove how non-racist and pro-black they are, so supposedly that means they're aiming for the black vote. But what it might really mean is that they're aiming for the moderate white vote.

12/15/11, 7:52 PM

Anonymous Anonymous said...

Steve,

Mr. Evergreen is right. Everyone hates servile work, white and black. I think it's more accurate to say that whites hate to see blacks in servile work because it make them feel guilty.

12/15/11, 8:59 PM

Blogger Steve Sailer said...

The servile jobs at golf courses these days, such as unloading golf bags from trunks and cleaning clubs after the round, are dominated by white males between 16 and 30.

12/15/11, 9:03 PM

Anonymous Anonymous said...

Judging by the models in the ads, they're aiming for a half black clientele.

In which case so is just about every other product and service available.

12/16/11, 1:44 AM

Blogger mr_evergreen said...

"The servile jobs at golf courses these days, such as unloading golf bags from trunks and cleaning clubs after the round, are dominated by white males between 16 and 30"

I look at it this way. The vast majority of persons who go to golf courses are White.

12/16/11, 5:30 AM

Anonymous Anonymous said...

Point O' Woods is there. it's fantastic

12/16/11, 6:13 AM

Anonymous Anonymous said...

How do you know that all Blacks hate servile work?


He didn't say "all Blacks".

He said, "the black underclass".

[Unless maybe your position is that "all Blacks" are members of "the black underclass"?]

12/16/11, 6:55 AM

Blogger beowulf said...

Door County, Wisconsin has some great gold courses (its on a peninsula between Green Bay and Lake Michigan so it has a double dose of coastline).
http://www.doorcountygolf.com/GolfCourses.HTM

12/16/11, 8:27 AM

Anonymous Fake Herzog said...

Steve,

I never read this book but it might be worth a look:

http://www.alexkotlowitz.com/02_02_05.html

12/16/11, 9:16 AM

Anonymous Anonymous said...

Re: "black underclass": This becomes much more reasonable when you describe it as "urban poor father-less children without religion or work ethic", excluding e.g. "rural religious poor".

12/16/11, 11:42 AM

Anonymous not a hacker said...

Steve, California's moderately priced public courses are absolutely packed right now. Given utility rates, I don't know if this means they're profitable, but the golfers are there in droves. Recently in Fairfield I played with three guys in their early 50's, all of whom were law enforcement retirees embarking on second careers. Unless you're willing to pay over $80, the pace of play is maddeningly slow.

12/16/11, 12:01 PM

Anonymous not a hacker said...

And you wouldn't want to be a white caddie for a black golfer, because blacks don't tip. (see my earlier story about Quincy Jones.)

12/16/11, 12:57 PM

Anonymous Philoctetes said...

I grew up in Benton Harbor. The black underclass drove out whites in that city in a period of two to three decades. A few years ago I took a drive down memory lane; the city was mess. I had to laugh when I saw the golf course going up. My first thought was, who was making all the money from that deal?

12/16/11, 1:13 PM

Anonymous Anonymous said...

"rural religious poor"


You know, in any given election, 5% to 10% of all blacks will vote GOP, and I have long wondered whether there is a large overlap between them and your "rural religious poor".

12/16/11, 1:48 PM

Blogger Truth said...

"Blacks hate servile work"

"Poor urban African-Americans hate servile work"

Pee-Cee pandering?

Et tu, Steveus?

12/16/11, 1:54 PM

Anonymous Anonymous said...

Has anyone explained 'snow effect' to you?

Any course built on the west coast of lower Michigan must make its nut in 120 days of golf...

For the rest will be under ice, frost or snow.

12/16/11, 6:05 PM

Anonymous Noah172 said...

You know, in any given election, 5% to 10% of all blacks will vote GOP, and I have long wondered whether there is a large overlap between them and your "rural religious poor".

My guess is that black Republicans are either: 1) active/retired military (although when Obama came on the scene many black servicemen reverted to tribal solidarity), or 2) middle-class or upper-class professionals with private-sector, non-affirmative-action careers.

12/16/11, 6:49 PM

Anonymous Anonymous said...

active/retired military (although when Obama came on the scene many black servicemen reverted to tribal solidarity)


Have you seen any hard figures on that, or is it more anecdotal?

Thanks.

12/17/11, 5:22 AM

Anonymous Anonymous said...

when Obama came on the scene many black servicemen reverted to tribal solidarity


Have you seen any hard figures on that [i.e. on their having switched allegiances], or is it more like anecdotal observations on your part?

Thanks.

12/17/11, 5:26 AM

Anonymous Anonymous said...

Golf is not a sport. It's like playing fetch with a dog except you go get the ball. How dumb is that?

12/17/11, 5:49 AM

Anonymous slumber_j said...

My grandfather was a member at Crystal Downs and had a house just off one of the fairways. That was an amazingly beautiful place to play golf. I don't even much like playing golf, and yet I find myself reminiscing about that course from time to time.

12/17/11, 7:39 AM

Anonymous Anonymous said...

"Poor urban African-Americans hate servile work, so is the resort, assuming it ever gets any guests, going to have to bring in immigrants to be maids?"

The question doesn't even need to be asked anymore.


"And who are the target customers? Judging by the models in the ads, they're aiming for a half black clientele."

Call those ads the "Negro Insertion Point," as someone here once referred to it.

Also, their project is dispacing blacks. Gotta pretend they're not.

Also, they're getting state and federal grant money. Gotta please Obama and various federal bureaucrats.

12/17/11, 1:21 PM

Blogger mr_evergreen said...

"I grew up in Benton Harbor. The black underclass drove out whites in that city in a period of two to three decades. A few years ago I took a drive down memory lane; the city was mess. I had to laugh when I saw the golf course going up. My first thought was, who was making all the money from that deal?"

You mean like when Blacks were being driven out of White areas during the nadir of race relations(sometime starting in 1890)?

12/17/11, 6:22 PM

Anonymous Noah172 said...

Have you seen any hard figures on that [i.e. on their having switched allegiances], or is it more like anecdotal observations on your part?

A little of both. I recently wrapped up military service and saw the phenomenon myself. The Army Times had a story or two about it; no quantification on black servicemen switching parties but still something noticeable. Bottom line is that McCain got 4 --count 'em -- percent of the AA vote (vs. 11 for Bush '04) so there can't have been any subset of blacks in which McCain performed strongly, even considering his party's usual performance.

12/17/11, 7:24 PM

Anonymous Anonymous said...

"You mean like when Blacks were being driven out of White areas during the nadir of race relations(sometime starting in 1890)?"

Immigration has never been kind to black has it?

12/18/11, 1:00 PM

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