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"Vincent Carroll on Duke"

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Anonymous Dave said...

I would be more interested to see the impact on alumni donations to Duke. I'm guessing there will be a drop off this year.

4/12/07, 10:43 PM

Anonymous Anonymous said...

With those fat SAT scores, I bet most students are smart enough not to let one disgraced professor, or even a bit of less than admirable conduct on the part of an administratoin, even a few faculty, overly affect their choice of where to go to school.

4/13/07, 4:31 AM

Anonymous Anonymous said...

I'm guessing there will be a drop off this year.

Maybe, but I'd be surprised if it was at all significant.

It's more likely that they will diversify themselves into financial disadvantage; I remember reading an article a few years ago saying that, at least at Stanford, minority alumni donated, on average, far less than Whites. Even when adjusted for financial success after graduation. And ethnic Chinese, who are academically strong, were the stingiest.

4/13/07, 4:40 AM

Blogger AMac said...

A few thoughts by (non-Duke) faculty on the Carroll editorial in the comments at John in Carolina.

4/13/07, 5:13 AM

Anonymous Anonymous said...

At least a few Duke professors spoke up for the accused:

http://www.diverseeducation.com/artman/publish/article_6902.shtml

4/13/07, 7:17 AM

Anonymous joshrandall said...

The Duke 88 what a bunch of scumbags. This brings to mind William Buckleys comment about how he'd rather be governed by the first 100 in the phone book,than by the Harvard faculty. I suspect the governing capacity of academia has deteriorated quite a bit since that quote was made! I would love to ask that old dyke Hillary Clinton if she would have signed the ad,had she been on the faculty. The answer is obvious,hell she'd be the one who would've written it! But it would be nice to see the old hag squirm.

4/13/07, 9:04 AM

Anonymous Papa-Lu said...

Coach K had their backs.

4/13/07, 10:00 AM

Anonymous Anonymous said...

I disagree Steve.

I think for young white men, the idea of institutions hostile to them will be a deciding factor.

I'd imagine at least a decade of young white men deciding to pass on Duke, or at least only those with lower qualifications trying "the worst house on the block" ploy.

IMHO Duke has really hurt itself. It will be of course the place where minorities and feminists apply, but too much of that is not good for institutions (alumni success, donations, etc).

4/13/07, 12:28 PM

Anonymous Anonymous said...

From Ann Coulter, last year:
"However the Duke lacrosse rape case turns out, one lesson that absolutely will not be learned is this: You can severely reduce your chances of having a false accusation of rape leveled against you if you don't hire strange women to come to your house and take their clothes off for money.

Also, you can severely reduce your chances of being raped if you do not go to strange men's houses and take your clothes off for money. (Does anyone else detect a common thread here?)"

I will also add if said stripper you hired is black and you are white, and in a community with a large Black component, SEND HER BACK! DON'T LET HER IN THE DOOR! If you are rich, too, this goes double. If you're all of the above and a college student, don't even entertain the idea of a stripper coming to your party. The act of not accepting her could get you expelled for racism.

4/13/07, 5:57 PM

Anonymous Anonymous said...

I'll add Steve that you're making an assumption error:

That because College reputations in the past have not changed radically, they will continue to maintain the same state in the future.

Is this so?

I'd argue that there are factors that could change that:

1. College applicant numbers, more or less people going to college will drive the market for admissions both ways.

2. College affordability, if many high SAT/Grades students are driven out of Private Markets and go on to public universities that could affect rankings.

3. Latino-ization of the population leading to lack of interest in College and reduced requirement for social success/status.

There's probably a whole lot of things I have not thought of, but bottom line I don't think the relative social and demographic stability we saw in America in the Post War era is indicative of America today.

4/13/07, 11:33 PM

Anonymous skeptical cynic said...

The Duke 88 faculty should be tarred and feathered and shipped out of town on a rail.

Steve, I'd like to see you comment on the Robert Epstein book to "abolish adolescence." It seems that a lot of dysfunctionality of both students and professors comes from never growing up. Peter Pans who never face real world responsibility can make up any theory of life and politics they want. Who's gonna call them on it?

The New York Times? All the Times journalists are Peter Pans too.

4/14/07, 9:03 AM

Anonymous Horatio said...

A lot of students who would have applied to Duke realized that it is in a mostly black city. Even most left leaning students don't want to live near a black ghetto. I was forced to come here for grad school because this was the only place where my fiancee and I were both accepted. I almost wish I had accepted UNC's offer instead. Chapel Hill is a great place to hang out on Friday nights. Durham is a cesspool populated by criminal morons. I spend a good amount of time near the hospital where many of the locals can be heard in conversation. Forrest Gump was more insightful than most of these people.

4/21/07, 5:42 PM

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