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"More on blacks and swimming"

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Anonymous Anonymous said...

Blacks generally have denser bones that whites and orientals. They also normally have a lower body fat percentage. They sink like rocks in the water. As I am writing this, I just learned that Kevin Eubanks from the Tonight Show almost drowned last weekend...

10/2/07, 1:16 AM

Anonymous Anonymous said...

Well I've always been known as the waterbaby..I've always loved swimming, I first learned to swim after almost drowning at the age of seven. I'm now 43. I'm also about 5 stone overweight and have been for many years so my body fat is much heigher..not lower. And am still a great lover of swimming,. I once trained to be a lifeguard..I was also asked by teams to join their swimming clubs..I never did, didn't want to. I'm a very good butterfly swimmer, I tought myself to swim butterfly. I'm also very good at other strokes, with great technique and have a lot of stamina, I have tought many people to swim..both Children and adults. To me swimming is second nature.
Did I forget to mention that I'm a 4'11. overweight black woman with 3 sons?
Luvlybubly..catch me if you can.

10/4/07, 8:30 AM

Blogger Michael Poulos said...

My pet theoty involves that several things interact:

1: Parents who don't swim can't teach their kids.

2: In the case of poor people (any ethnic group) theycan't afford the "modest" fee for a class ay a YMCA. The present price is around $100, a modest sum but unaffordable for many poor families.

3: If a high school has a swim class, given barbaric methods, it is effectively too late to learn. Swimming is best learned while young.

4: By the time someone is an adult, suitable instruction gets expensive and is difficult in the extreme, especially if you have a past of traumatic failure in previous tries.

I'm white, and a severe nonswimmer. I guess I have lots of company outside of my exact ethnic group due to the same economic factors above.

12/4/07, 8:55 PM

Anonymous Anonymous said...

Some of the best swimmers in history are African American.

I am sorry to rain on your parade. Perhaps you could educate yourself by watching the following link. The CBS reporter, Shomari Stone, exposes the myths and stereotypes you are talking about on your blog. Copy and paste or simply click on the following link. Take care.

http://cbs4.com/video/?id=51081@wfor.dayport.com

3/4/08, 6:23 PM

Anonymous Anonymous said...

This post perpetuates myths & stereotypes. Just because you heard "blacks have more dense bodies" when you were a kid does not make it true. Blacks don't swim because whites didn't let them into pools for an awful long time. It's no more complex than that.

8/3/10, 12:02 PM

Anonymous Anonymous said...

"blacks are denser on average than whites"

Body density has little to do with swimming ability. I've taught swimming and the difference is insignificant. The comment is silly.

In Canada, swimming lessons are subsidized and cost about $40. If people are concerned about kids not knowing how to swim, give money to the Red Cross to set up programs. It does not take long at all to teach a kid to swim. It just takes will.

8/4/10, 5:59 PM

Anonymous matt dickinson said...

I don't mean to discount any biological or genetic discussions here, but I would think the primary reason blacks don't know how to swim is because they are still on the lower end of things economically. We don't normally think about it, but swimming is something of a luxury - swimming pools, even neighborhood ones, add to the value of a house, and lakehouses are more expensive than non-lakehouses, the same with beachhouses and trips to the beach. It may be worth comparing the swimming and drowning rates in African countries as well as islands like Jamaica and Haiti.

8/13/10, 8:47 AM

Anonymous Nanadoo said...

This black density business with swimming is probably an urban legend. How much more 'dense' are they, really? A boat is much more dense than I am too. But more importantly, Phelps has far more lean muscle mass, and a low % body fat, judging by his physique, probably has denser bones due to all the weight training; in short by any measure, he's much more dense than I and he's the top swimmer in the world, whereas I would probably drown if I were required to swim a 400M in one fell swoop.

8/8/12, 6:43 PM

Anonymous Nanadoo said...

Lets also mention that women are less dense than men, and men seem to have the potential to swim much better. So let's forget all this 'density' talk.

8/8/12, 6:45 PM

Blogger ChristopherAllen said...

As a young man (now 27yrs) I was swimming freely as young as seven years. My father taught my three older brothers and me how to swim because he valued the human necessity of surviving all facets of nature. He also taught us how to make a fire in the woods, how to climb rocks, how to create warmth in outdoor environments; ultimately he showed us the value of fundamental human sustainability. We've also learned how to acquire (in)formal education, learn a trades and skills, and how to raise a family. These are like-essentials to all humans. We Americans have these privileges of public swimming pools and regulated campgrounds as well as public education, civil rights, and fair trial, therefore we should appreciate these luxuries. But we cannot unless we regard them as a luxury and develop a higher appreciation for them. The stereotypes and stats are futile in the case, the reality is that people of all races should embrace nature which is our Father's gift to this abysmal world.

3/11/13, 7:35 PM

Blogger rxc and jlm said...

I used to do a bit of sailing on the Chesapeake Bay, where there are a LOT of blacks of all sorts of classes, from govt wonks to inner city youth, and I can say that I agree with the comment about how few blacks seem to be interested in boating. We used to see them on "head-boats" which took people out for a day of fishing, but very few on their own boats. The first time we did see black people on a non-head-boat was in St. Michaels, where they pulled up to the dock at a locally famous crab house. Blacks in crab houses are something no one would ever think was unusual. Everyone loves crabs. But black people in charge of a non work-boat was so different that it was almost jarring. I can also say that I have never seen any blacks on sailboats. I don't understand why, but it seems that they do not like to pull on ropes to make the rags move to make the boat move. Even though there have to be LOTS of black people in the Ches Bay area who could afford expensive boats, and even expensive sail boats.

Very strange.

1/20/15, 9:24 AM

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