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"Ashkenazi vs. "Sephardic" intelligence"

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Anonymous Anonymous said...

There is just one major problem with your article: You assume IQ is equivalent to getting an education. While Middle Eastern Arabs and Jews might get less education than their European counterparts, this has no bearing on their intelligence quota. Education is simply an economic issue. The richer you are, the more "priveledged" you are to receive it.

3/13/07, 1:53 PM

Anonymous Sefardita said...

I think you forget one beatiful thing to observe:

Nadie sabe el dolor del tiempo y la esfera,
momentos que la sangre y la razón
participa
Nadie puede irse lejos
sin que un Judío participe.

Nadie puede respirar en un mundo lánguido,
porque muchas estaciones existen,
pero ¡un Judío persistente,
el mundo siempre conquista!

3/30/07, 12:18 AM

Blogger Sheperd said...

Iran is not an Arab country, and Iranian Jews are just as smart and just as successful and Ashkenazi Jews. This is why we pretty much OWN Beverly Hills.

10/10/07, 12:24 PM

Blogger Yehudha said...

Another problem with your article:
The majority of Israeli and probably also American Ashkenazim are East Europeans. Most of their ancestors were even less educated than the Mizrahim.
The Israeli myth of educated Ashkenazim and uneducated Mizrahim became true only because of the ethnic gap in early Israeli society. I think it is safe to say that generally the Mizrahi 'olim in Israel had a more educated and cultured background than most Ashkenazim.

5/30/08, 4:44 AM

Anonymous Jimmy said...

"The majority of Israeli and probably also American Ashkenazim are East Europeans. Most of their ancestors were even less educated than the Mizrahim."

That's true, but governmental discrimination by the leftist parties changed this situation.


These studies can't be taken seriously. What does "Ashkenazi" mean? German? Russian? Polish? Lithuanian?

And what does "Sephardic" mean?
Portuguese? Spanish? Greeks? Moroccans? Romanians? French?

"Mizrahi"?
Egyptians, Yemenis, Lebanese, Syrians, Iranians or Iraqis?

How can someone consider so many different people as just two (or 3) ethnic groups?

4/2/11, 10:32 PM

Anonymous Anonymous said...

I think that Ashkenazim Jews, might be good at things they trained at for longer. Sephardi Jews, are equally as good i other fields. You see, when we talk about IQ, its relative to the gifts of the person. Some people are talented writers, and other talented mathematicians. I think that each race has talents, and flaws.

Jews don't outsmart people, they simply know how to work with their natural talents better by implementing new ways to understand their surroundings better.

5/15/11, 9:47 PM

Blogger Andy Jay said...

Don't forget to take natural selection into consideration... 100s of years of (extra) persecution of Sephardi Jews, and 5 years of active elimination of lower class Ashkenazim VS relatively peaceful living of Mizrahi Jews probably made a difference. Just like all the gold medals won by black Americans and Caribbeans. Makes you wonder what is Israel is breeding back yard...
By the way diversity is more interresting:

1. Kim-Ung-Yong - 200
2. Andreas Gunnarsson - 195
3. Thomas R.A. Wolf - 193
4. Rolf Mifflin - 192
5. Scott Durgin - 190
5. Paul Johns - 190
5. Evangelos G. Katsioulis - 190
6. Christopher Langan - 189
7. Marilyn Vos Savant - 188
8. Rick Rosner - 187

Not many Jews present there... (for those at the top who would support some more "natural selection")

9/17/12, 6:04 AM

Anonymous Anonymous said...

Who gives a fuckk?
So an Ashkenazi Jew can match patterns together better than a Sephard - while Sephards are more likely to give their women orgasms (p<0.001). Who cares?

Oh really? American Jews study English more than Asiatic Jews. Hmmmm... wonder why...

3/20/13, 2:21 AM

Anonymous Anonymous said...

Ashkenazis have always detested us nd still are racist towards us. That is y they r trying to attribute our lack of comparable academic success in Israel to stupidity instead of just saying the truth: ashkenazis in 1950s israel were racist an tried to hinder us (mizrahis) from attaining success and hence power in a state created by ashkenazis for ashkenazis.

1/17/14, 2:16 PM

Anonymous Reg Cæsar said...

So an Ashkenazi Jew can match patterns together better than a Sephard - while Sephards are more likely to give their women orgasms (p<0.001). Who cares? --anonymous [understandably so]

Wait a minute… isn't giving orgasms all a matter of matching patterns together? That's been my observation.

But what do I know? I'm a goy…

1/17/14, 3:28 PM

Anonymous Anonymous said...

What toxic bile is this?
“Arab Gene”? My god, this is poisonous.

Education begets intelligence. Countries with greater education have human beings with higher intelligence; blood is irrelevant, and to say anything else is simply wrong. It’s inhumane, you can’t walk around it.
The Islamic golden age took place when the West was in the bowels of the Dark Ages and thus for that time Arabs were sure to be smarter than Europeans; the Silk Road was vibrant when the Islamic world was destroyed in the Mongol Hordes and for that time Central Asian Turks & Persians were sure to be smarter than the Arabs. We are in a period when the hot-spots of education & technology are Western Europe, North America, and Pacific Asia (Japan, S. Korea, coastal Chinese metropolises). Thus, for this time, the average Western European, or North American, or East Asian is expected to be smarter than the average Arab, or Khoi-San, or Serbian, or Tongan.
Your writings are dark in intentions and against the teachings of God who creates us all as equal, and I hope you don’t call yourself a man of any faith — especially not the Judaism I hold dear.
Love your fellow man and do not make him your subordinate. After all, is that not the history our people have always fought?

4/15/14, 3:06 PM

Anonymous Anonymous said...

My Bubby Cohen, Bulgarian, called her son's wife, my mother, maiden name Levy, Schwartze, "Black!" She held herself superior, and was severely prejudiced! Time/place: Brooklyn, NY circa 1940! She considered herself Ashkenazi. My mother was Spanish, also from Bulgaria, and spoke Ladino!
Grandpa Cohen escaped pogroms in Romania and became a tailor. My mother's people owned a huge farm and were quite rich, and more highly educated than the Ashkenazi side. My Bubby Levy traveled the known European world and spoke 11 languages by the time she was 18! They had to lose it all to come to America. As far as I can tell, both families were intelligent and artistic, though the Sephardic side seemed to be more creative, spawning musicians and a famous actor; while the Cohen side gave rise to accountants, teachers, and doctors, with one successful professional artist, my dad. The experience of poverty during the depression devastated my mom's family, reversing their economic status, while the tailor made it through okay, and his five sons became successful while my mom's family struggled and suffered after grandpa Levy lost his business. Flip flop! Economic hardship/status is primarily determinative of IQ and success. AND - IQ itself is a questionable measure of innate intelligence! It is supposed to measure potential. It measures learning compared to what is expected at a certain age! And it's culturally biased. Opportunity for education is most important! Both families revered and promoted education to the best of their abilities! Hardship creates emotional illness! That alone makes success more difficult! That said, there are people on the planet that are genetically more or less intelligent than others depending upon their cultural and geographic backgrounds! Birds of a feather flock together for real and legitimate reasons!

7/3/14, 1:31 AM

Anonymous Anonymous said...

Education begets intelligence, not. Nature vs nurture is not a real dispute anymore. It is mostly nature. By the way, the islamic golden age argument is quite ridicoulous. The "arab world" of the 10th and 11th century was for a large part still populated by Greeks, Armenians, assyrians, copts and (Yes sir) jews. Jews, christians and persians kept dominated science and learning. Or do you realy believe the myth that the arabs "re-introduced" classic Greek learnings and literature to europe and the world. The local population with Greek as the the lingua franca suddenly stopt reading? The level of education and learning in the Mdl East dropped at about the same pace as the abovementioned populations. By the way: Europe in the bowels of the dark age? Perhaps, but while during this period the libraries of alexandria and other centres of the Mdl East disapered, in Europe the Universities of Sorbonne, Bologna and Oxford startend to form.

1/29/16, 12:40 PM

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