For me it's always been the "trying to hard" part that gets me. Watching people pretend to like or get what their talking about isn't fun to watch.
The teabag joke in particular I think worked when the host made the verbal joke. Then they hammered it home by actually doing it which as humor wasn't needed at that point. Again. It's just really awkward stilted comedy.
Your joke about the gaping works because of the context and the story around it. Louis CK isn't above dirty jokes, swearing, and a variety of other "childish" things, but he makes it funny like any other good comic
I don't think it's just that seeing our parents or any "other" doing what we like gives us a scary perspective on our selves. I think sometimes it is, but in the case of the VGA's matters of taste and opinion seem more relevant.
Renaissance man James Franco would surely be down for a sequel called Planet of the Gapes.
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Profanity, violence, etc. were used as paints to create the portrait of "The Wire;" the idea and impression left was greater than the sum of its parts (A bunch of guys dealing drugs, dying, backstabbing others, etc.).
Regardless of the medium (Music, film, video game, etc.), every idea has the potential to become something beyond what it is initially. The direction might be absurd (SomethingAwful) or insightful (Colbert, Wire), but the point is that it HAS DIRECTION.
Many, like children playing with paint, simply reference an inside-joke, meme, etc., for the sake of referencing it; there is no attempt to harness the potential and say something more. The VGA was a good example of wahjah inducing jokes and activities that existed for no other reason than they were supposed to exist. Arrows with no direction, coming from a juvenile mind.
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For me it's always been the "trying to hard" part that gets me. Watching people pretend to like or get what their talking about isn't fun to watch.
The teabag joke in particular I think worked when the host made the verbal joke. Then they hammered it home by actually doing it which as humor wasn't needed at that point. Again. It's just really awkward stilted comedy.
Your joke about the gaping works because of the context and the story around it. Louis CK isn't above dirty jokes, swearing, and a variety of other "childish" things, but he makes it funny like any other good comic
I don't think it's just that seeing our parents or any "other" doing what we like gives us a scary perspective on our selves. I think sometimes it is, but in the case of the VGA's matters of taste and opinion seem more relevant.
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December 11, 2011 at 3:06 PM
One can take a bucket of paint and create a very thoughtful and skillful picture. A child might take that same bucket of paint and simply make blotches on the canvas, thinking of nothing more than "Wow, look at that color." In the hands of the proper "artist" any idea or meme can be used to transmit a different (And often deeper) idea, much like a bucket of paint is used to paint a picture.
Profanity, violence, etc. were used as paints to create the portrait of "The Wire;" the idea and impression left was greater than the sum of its parts (A bunch of guys dealing drugs, dying, backstabbing others, etc.).
Regardless of the medium (Music, film, video game, etc.), every idea has the potential to become something beyond what it is initially. The direction might be absurd (SomethingAwful) or insightful (Colbert, Wire), but the point is that it HAS DIRECTION.
Many, like children playing with paint, simply reference an inside-joke, meme, etc., for the sake of referencing it; there is no attempt to harness the potential and say something more. The VGA was a good example of wahjah inducing jokes and activities that existed for no other reason than they were supposed to exist. Arrows with no direction, coming from a juvenile mind.
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You're watching a "show" on a network geared towards the 18-40 white male, why are you expecting the Oscars? True, you could just changed the channel, but you've had drinks and it's Saturday night. You're watching a "show" that doesn't care what you think, so why not lash out...it's not like anyone's gonna listen anyway?
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