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"The case for and against vinyl in 2018"

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Blogger James said...

My 2 cents: I just don't think that it's cool anymore.

I think the thought of collecting things like records is seen as more anoraky now than it ever has. Having a big collection of vinyl was cool before the digital era when that meant that you were big into music, now a big collection of vinyl looks more like you are big into collecting obsolete media formats to show off.

In the twilight years for vinyl I think soundsystem culture and dance music culture meant that collecting records was still for young people and working class people but now after it has died and had its resurgence it seems like it's main purpose is servicing middle aged, middle class people's need for trad rock nostalgia.

When I was a teenager I couldn't imagine anything cooler than a huge record collection spanning genres and decades. Now that I have it, it seems incredibly dorky. Oh well, I still love vinyl, although I could be doing to get rid of some of it.

(The moving argument is the most convincing one, my vinyl collection has doubled since the last time I moved and the thought of moving again gives me anxiety.)

1:29 am

Blogger Pain Displacement said...

You still on that dancing DJs shit too? Been dealing with that for 15 years. Some sounds are subversive, not just some fuzzy 2step but straight up abrasive. Some sounds cater to basement goblins like me. We don't dance but we know our shit.

Also, it's not about then and now, because there was a time in between too. Sort of a post scarcity utopia even, fuck your time and fuck now, I had an era too.

In the early 00s all that pretentious label curation was a gesture of good will, it wasn't needed, it was a map but also an obstacle. We still had friction, we still had to socialize on Soulseek and ftp sites to get what we wanted, but we could have everything and we could dig deeper into impossible sounds and inaccessible scenes. That Blue Note shit is cool, I missed all that, but it's not the only way to make something interesting.

9:24 am

Anonymous Anonymous said...

Thanks for taking the time on this write-up. All good points.

For me it's pretty simple. If a label does not produce physical media they have conceded that their music is disposable and doesn't care that each song's unique pattern of 1s and 0s will likely get lost in the vast current of digital media. Is that fair to a "signed" artist? If vinyl sales are offered and are not good enough that should solicit questions about quality control, A&R, and the marketing process. The way I like to look at vinyl/CD is as an unforgiving quality control mechanism. There used to be a significant front end investment to release music. That helped weed out weaker labels and artists. While I applaud the way that digital has broken down the timeline between production and release, quality control standards have been flushed down the toilet.

And the music realm is completely self destructive right now. Unfiltered, it moves too fast due to the amount of this disposable material out there. Good music is frequently overlooked because it gets lost in a massive digital haystack. Part of the appeal of d&b was a pipeline for dubplates to be tested for quality before ever even being considered for release. Hearing something desirable but unattainable created a somewhat measurable level of demand.

Another issue is that electronic/dance music has been overspecialized into sub-sub-sub scenes of 10-15 people due to this odd need to compartmentalize and over-categorize. On the d&b side I feel like Metalheadz is the lone tent out there big and diverse enough to satisfy most fans without compromising its ethos. Hospital comes close in the size of their tent, but skews toward commercialism far too often. And I struggle to understand how they make money with each 30 song mega-compilation and many great songs get lost in a deluge of pedestrian shit on that label. Probably not the best example!

For me the most satisfying thing about the digital era is Bandcamp. It's a perfect tool to enable artists to become self-sufficient. The artist can dictate the price of his or her tunes. The artist can use the same portal to sell merchandise or physical media if desired. Buy a record, get a digital copy! Only sell physical if you want! The artist chooses the level of risk/exposure. Yes, some artists don't have the desire to self promote or want to piggyback off the reputation of a label. That is fine. I just love the fact that it's a perfect avenue for artists to use to empower themselves if desired. A label though should be putting out something tangible. If not, it is an affront to the artists and to the world of music.

6:15 pm

Blogger SIMON REYNOLDS said...

One of the "case against" point could be the right-there-in-the-open fact that most vinyl LPs come with download codes, suggesting that in practice people listen digitally. I wouldn't be surprised if there were a lot of vinyl albums that were played just once, and quite a few that were never actually removed from the shrink wrap.

I suspect a lot of the vinyl mania is driven by gestural reasons - liking having something conspicuous to display in their homes. Or there's a sort of deference to a time when (it's felt) music mattered more and that was bound up with the physical husk it came in. Or perhaps for older types it reminds them of a time when they were doing all hard work of chasing things down in record stores, the graft, the hunt, the thrill of finding something, so there's a sort of nod to an earlier self.

12:05 am

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