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"Cronenberg Blogathon: The Fly (1958) vs. The Fly (1986)"

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Blogger Nostalgia Kinky said...

Very nice piece. It really makes me want to revisit the original as I have only seen it once, and it has been a long time.

September 7, 2010 at 12:25 PM

Blogger Tony Dayoub said...

I've got to say, despite much love I have for Cronenberg's take, the original just grabs me on a gut level much the way Joel describes above. And it's definitely more romantic.

That being said, this may be the warmest of Cronenberg's films for its depiction of the romance (costars Davis and Goldblum were an item at the time).

September 7, 2010 at 12:54 PM

Blogger Joel Bocko said...

Jeremy & Tony, I warmed up to the original as it went along - it's a bit stiff initially but given the chance it's pretty interesting and creepy by the end. I hadn't seen either version before preparing this piece, so thanks Tony for giving me the excuse!

I didn't know Davis-Goldblum were an item. Anybody seen The Fly 2? Sans Goldblum, Davis & Cronenberg I wouldn't expect much, but how's the makeup/effects?

September 7, 2010 at 1:09 PM

Blogger Unknown said...

THE FLY 2 is ehh, not that great. I guess the effects are OK but you're constantly distracted by the weak script and bland direction. At least, that's how I felt about it.

September 7, 2010 at 3:33 PM

Blogger Joel Bocko said...

Another pointed difference between the two films - and another reason the original may be more gripping and tense - is that once Brundle goes through the teleportation with the fly, it's all over now. His decline is inevitable (indeed, this is the very theme Cronenberg wants to pursue - the inevitablity of death and decay). But Andre still has a shot at salvation, which makes it all the more poignant and distressing when that salvation slips away with the little housefly. The torment is more acute because (even though it's been set up from the beginning that he dies) the death and mutation seem avoidable. Different dynamics at play, interesting to contemplate.

September 7, 2010 at 3:42 PM

Blogger Ratnakar Sadasyula said...

The Fly 2 was okayish. I have not seen the original version, but loved the 80's one, again for the way Cronenberg explores the pysche of Seth Brundle, as he traces his downfall.

September 8, 2010 at 2:50 AM

Blogger SFF said...

Great analysis between the two films. If I was a college professor I would love this challenging piece. A.

I think the Fly II is worth a look. I remember being pretty freaked out by the end. Effects are fine as I recall. Stolz and Zuniga are good, but on the whole it can't compete with The Fly. I would concur on the whole with the other comments. Still, worth a viewing if you enjoyed the sci-fi concepts of the Cronenberg masterpiece.

September 8, 2010 at 9:41 AM

Blogger Chris said...

One thing I always loved about the '58 FLY was the structure of beginning at the end, so to speak. This was a great post and coupled with the clips from Jim Emerson's video essay, has me scrambling through my old VHS tapes to check out both films again.

September 8, 2010 at 11:08 AM

Blogger Joel Bocko said...

Thanks, guys - I'm glad you enjoyed the post. By the way, since this piece seems to be attracting the attention of some new folks (thanks, Tony, again for the spot) let me take a moment to announce that I'll be kicking off a possible new series this Friday (on the blog Tony links above), and am interested in the feedback of readers as to if it's something they'll be interested in checking in with every week. Stay tuned.

Ok, /blatant self-promotion. Moving on:

Scorp, if you do see the '58, feel free to drop back by here again & share your thoughts. I'd be particularly interested as the trajectory of the character's transformation is so different.

Sci-Fi, I'll take the A & run before you reconsider. Another vote for Fly II - it's been added to the Netflix queue.

Chris, Oddly enough I didn't really like the flashback structure and it wasn't until the movie got into the thick of things that it began working for me (then again, the wait probably made the "drama" more enjoyable). When it comes to genre films, I'm generally impatient with delay - The Birds is another example; it seems one of Hitchcock's weaker films to me though it has its admirers. If the human drama was more convincing and involving I might feel differently, but in both cases it struck me as a little forced.

Btw, if you like video pieces check out the one I did for Tony's blogathon last year. As he wisely advised though, it's NSFW so be warned...

September 8, 2010 at 11:42 AM

Blogger Adam Zanzie said...

The only parts from the '58 original I've seen are the scenes offered in the making-of documentary on the DVD of Cronenberg's film; it relieved me to see that the inspector mercifully kills off the hero on the spider's web, rather than allow him to be eaten alive--the latter would be too depressing to contemplate!

Oddly enough, I think The Fly, for me at least, is the most disturbing of all of Cronenberg's films. Even the torture porn of Videodrome, the NC-17 wreckage of Crash and the gritty mob whackings of A History of Violence/Eastern Promises just don't make me as squeamish as the inside-out baboon, the ripped wrist of the boxer and Seth's mutant fly being shotgunned to the head do for me here. Though the logic of Cronenberg's remake has always confused me a little (why exactly does Seth have to deteriorate over time, instead of become a fly immediately as the teleporter should logically do for him?), it's still great drama. Bravo, Joel.

September 9, 2010 at 1:55 PM

Blogger Joel Bocko said...

Thanks, Adam. I too thought the fly was going to get eaten slowly by the spider. Regardless, it's a hideous sight.

September 15, 2010 at 9:37 PM

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