This may well be one of the defining events of the Obama Presidency and the rabid dissent and one dimensional partisan self serving attacks would have to a address the folowing...!I am positive for the following reasons...1.why have sanctions and when they work and bring Iran to its knees do not negotiate? 2. Given this reality what are the options. 3.Bibi Bibi in his 1995 book on "Terrorism" said Iran was 3"years away from an Atom Bomb and 20 years later they do not have one 4. Billion$ of investment capital will quickly flow inexorably to draw (plunge) Iran into the very vortex of the world economy. This literally "nation saving" event will not be a few years later sacrificed at a catastrophic cost to surreptitiously build a bomb. 5. This is an immensely popular and positive decision with a large majority of the Iranians and the government is not going to Volte Face and risk a popular wave of dissent that could potentially over throw the government. 6. Robert you are lettered in physics and science and it is difficult to logically deny that 6 nations all with nuclear capabilities can literally be unable to enforce the treaty. 7. Iran is now our De Facto Ally circa 1941 as with the USSR to defeat ISIS who occupy their very border and the Mullahs, reprehensible as they may be, are not the paranoid murderous Stalin. 8.In tandem with this is that Iran is now employed in an expanding war with ISIS that is a veritable threat to their national security and thus can not afford to "sacrfice"their limited and vital resources to build a bond. Such an act would immediately preclude the tacit support of the USA and other Western Nations to fight this these (wars) 9....**** Last and paramount is that Merkel and Putin are in no manner gullible and stupid.They are of course the pivotal partners and would in "no manner" risk their prestige and credibility in a potentially "flawed" agreement.
Israel has, it seems, settled on a policy of endless war and complete obstruction of any peace efforts. This may well make sense for Israel in light of the fact that it exists in a part of the world where nearly all disputes are settled with violence. The United States is a different country and needs to look at the overall geopolitical in light of its interests. What Israel doesn't care about and the United States needs to care about is that this entire situation closely resembles the run up to World War One. While the parallels may not be so exact one thing is quite certain: The fortunes of war are highly unpredictable and the results of war with Iran are not going to include stopping the nuclear program. Israel is not the 51st state of the US and Bibi is not the president of the US. Continued provocation and BS from Bibi and his henchmen is not going to help Israel.
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The commander of the Basij militia of Iran’s Revolutionary Guards said that “erasing Israel off the map” is “nonnegotiable,” according to an Israel Radio report Tuesday. Militia chief Mohammad Reza Naqdi also threatened Saudi Arabia, saying that the offensive it is leading in Yemen “will have a fate like the fate of Saddam Hussein.” Naqdi’s comments were made public as Iran and six world powers prepared Tuesday to issue a general statement agreeing to continue nuclear negotiations in a new phase aimed at reaching a comprehensive accord by the end of June. In 2014, Naqdi said Iran was stepping up efforts to arm West Bank Palestinians for battle against Israel, adding the move would lead to Israel’s annihilation, Iran’s Fars news agency reported. “Arming the West Bank has started and weapons will be supplied to the people of this region,” Naqdi said. “The Zionists should know that the next war won’t be confined to the present borders and the Mujahedeen will push them back,” he added. Naqdi claimed that much of Hamas’s arsenal, training and technical knowhow in the summer conflict with Israel was supplied by Iran.
Barack got his deal. What happens next is of course to be seen. Interesting article in Politico regarding some of the more complicated spots, like relying on Vladimir Putin to ensure that Iran's nuclear activity is properly monitored.
Israel knows that it will one day be necessary to go it alone, it's built into a certain genetic coding. They know who their friends are and it is obvious that they have none in the Obama administration. It is amazing to me that some people are so absolutely delusional that they refuse to take the Iranians at their word.
Thanks, Barack. You've been a big help. To somebody.
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I was talking about the whole situation with a jewish guy I know, born that way, not religious, never been to Israel, very pro Obama, anti Israel, pro negotiation. And he said, if Iran shoots a nuclear bomb at Israel it will all be over for them.
And it is obvious that someone has never been to Israel when you hear a statement like that, because Israel at its narrowest is what, nine miles from Netanya east to Tulkarem? It is a very little country. Unfortunately one nuke is all it is going to take. There is no do-over. Yes, they will probably have a pilot left up in the air that can lay their enemy to waste after the country gets hit with a nuke but there will be nothing and nobody left at that point.
My friend says that if the five leading nations of the world can't detect a covert program it will be a real indictment of science. So what? It will then be our fault, because we couldn't detect anything until it was too late?
And all you good liberals that sat back and let this happen, especially you jewish liberals, you can protest that you did all you could and hopefully somebody will still be around one day to tell you that you are and were full of shit.
"And so it begins..."
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This may well be one of the defining events of the Obama Presidency and the rabid dissent and one dimensional partisan self serving attacks would have to a address the folowing...!I am positive for the following reasons...1.why have sanctions and when they work and bring Iran to its knees do not negotiate? 2. Given this reality what are the options. 3.Bibi Bibi in his 1995 book on "Terrorism" said Iran was 3"years away from an Atom Bomb and 20 years later they do not have one 4. Billion$ of investment capital will quickly flow inexorably to draw (plunge) Iran into the very vortex of the world economy. This literally "nation saving" event will not be a few years later sacrificed at a catastrophic cost to surreptitiously build a bomb. 5. This is an immensely popular and positive decision with a large majority of the Iranians and the government is not going to Volte Face and risk a popular wave of dissent that could potentially over throw the government. 6. Robert you are lettered in physics and science and it is difficult to logically deny that 6 nations all with nuclear capabilities can literally be unable to enforce the treaty. 7. Iran is now our De Facto Ally circa 1941 as with the USSR to defeat ISIS who occupy their very border and the Mullahs, reprehensible as they may be, are not the paranoid murderous Stalin. 8.In tandem with this is that Iran is now employed in an expanding war with ISIS that is a veritable threat to their national security and thus can not afford to "sacrfice"their limited and vital resources to build a bond. Such an act would immediately preclude the tacit support of the USA and other Western Nations to fight this these (wars) 9....****
Last and paramount is that Merkel and Putin are in no manner gullible and stupid.They are of course the pivotal partners and would in "no manner" risk their prestige and credibility in a potentially "flawed" agreement.
April 2, 2015 at 8:08 PM
Total Crap, Robert.
April 2, 2015 at 8:17 PM
Israel has, it seems, settled on a policy of endless war and complete obstruction of any peace efforts. This may well make sense for Israel in light of the fact that it exists in a part of the world where nearly all disputes are settled with violence. The United States is a different country and needs to look at the overall geopolitical in light of its interests. What Israel doesn't care about and the United States needs to care about is that this entire situation closely resembles the run up to World War One. While the parallels may not be so exact one thing is quite certain: The fortunes of war are highly unpredictable and the results of war with Iran are not going to include stopping the nuclear program. Israel is not the 51st state of the US and Bibi is not the president of the US. Continued provocation and BS from Bibi and his henchmen is not going to help Israel.
April 3, 2015 at 7:18 AM
http://www.csmonitor.com/World/Middle-East/2015/0403/Iran-nuclear-deal-Israelis-say-West-gave-away-too-much
April 3, 2015 at 9:11 AM