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"The Party's Over (Book Review)"

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Blogger Hans Rauch said...

Thank you, I'm half-way though the book, and I observer the same cavalier treatment of complex issues. However, I think that the EROEI is higher for oil than for other forms of energy, and if our current form of society is made possible by this difference, than we must expect some effects. I am not saying that there will be, because I myself don't know what the EROEI figures are, or whether our society needs these (presumed) margins or not, but if they do, then there will be differences post-peak.
In line with Heinberg's cavalier treatment of important issues, is a statement which finds a body of pollution as large as Lake Ontario completely acceptable for our standard of living. What part of out standard of living? Medicine? Blockbuster? Why should we automatically except large waste over a lifestyle which uses and wastes less? (By the way, gold and silver is used, but rarely consumed, as oil is consummed.) I think you are correct in describing Heinberg's attitude as "gotcha" and all the glee that this entails. BUT, to ignore the inherent tragedy of life, to optimitically believe that we will find some way to clean up our horible messes (in a way that will not waste as much energy as we procured by making them), that the party is just beginning, is I think, to play the same kind of game with life as Heinberg does. Heinberg's gleeful doom does not appeal to me, nor a gleeful optimism. It is possible to fail, and miserably.
Finally, thank you for the correction of the math, this was very helpful, and I'm sorry to say that I did not notice his error.
Grace and Peace - Hans

Sun Jan 15, 01:41:00 PM 2006

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