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Anonymous dearieme said...

You are much too kind about Talcott Parsons, Don. He wrote pretentious tosh.

June 3, 2013 at 1:19 AM

Blogger Donald Pittenger said...

dearieme -- Maybe it's because I actually heard him speak once at Penn. Can't remember a thing he said, of course.

Isaac Asimov (who I cited in this post) also spoke at Penn way back then. He was funnier, but spent much of his time harping on overpopulation.

June 3, 2013 at 12:48 PM

Anonymous Augustin Tougas said...

For my part, I've boiled it down do this :

If an object has no other purpose but the intention to show something.

This was notoriously challenged by Duchamp and the concept of readymades.

In other words, "My Bed" by Emin, is a work of art because it is now presented in this manner. It goes back to being an normal bed as soon as somebody uses it for what it was originally designed. Sleeping, mainly.

"My Desktop" by Pittenger is not an artwork because it is understood in the premise that it has another purpose, which is a workspace.

All the rest, in my opinion, is to decide whether it is a good or bad piece of art.

Robert Hughes said : "(...)it's become all the more important to decide for yourself whether a wok of art is just a little feat of novelty or whether it actually has something fresh and vital to say."

And later : "(...)and today, I think we're left with a more modest but equally difficult task for art to do. And that is : to be beautiful. To manifest beauty."

A great man.

June 4, 2013 at 6:02 AM

Blogger Evan Paul said...

"My Bed" is art because it is meant to be art. It no longer functions as a bed. It has been stripped of practical function and has been recreated as an object of aesthetic and contextual consideration.

Your desk could be art, if you had meant it to be, but you didn't. Your desk still functions as a desk. You do not offer it up as an object to be considered aesthetically or philosophically--you use it as a desk.

The photograph you took could be art, if you meant it to be. But you took it simply as a way to create an image for discussion in this blog entry.

Art has to do with intention. Duchamp's readymades are great testament to how this works.

July 13, 2013 at 1:00 PM

Blogger Donald Pittenger said...

Evan -- I don't buy the argument that intention is the sole criterion for defining art. If that's the case, then anything can be art if a self-appointed artist makes the claim.

When it comes to the nub of it, I define what art is (for myself) and I don't give a rip what the "artist," the MoMA, the New York Times art critic or a bunch of academicians think is art.

And of course you are entirely welcome to have your definition of art even though it differs from mine. There is nothing wrong with thinking for oneself.

July 13, 2013 at 7:25 PM

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