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"Praxis: The Case for Combat Load Carry & Rucksack Roadwork…"

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Anonymous Clell said...

Go out in the woods, with a good ax, a pair of gloves, a 1/2 gallon of water, and chop down a 10" tree, and then chop it in 24" lengths as if for firewood.
After 3-4 of these, you will be well on your way to having decent upper body strength.

Just one way to train.

February 10, 2009 at 10:11 PM

Blogger AmericanMercenary said...

4 mph for 3 hours with 35lb load (ruck or body armor with assault pack) is EIB standard for the US Army. This is a very achievable level of fitness and a good baseline for light infantry.

However, once you get into "unconventional" warfare, double the weight and increase the distance to sixteen miles. This level of fitness takes a while to get comfortable, and takes a lot more training to maintain.

Patrolling with a heavy load is always going to be a lot slower than training movements, no matter the weight and no matter the distance. Expecting men to move in combat conditions with the same speed as a training march is unrealistic, and smart leaders plan no more than .5 to 2.0 clicks per hour depending on METT-TC.

Jim

February 11, 2009 at 11:59 AM

Anonymous Anonymous said...

Excellent article, one that will hopefully be learned and applied by hundreds of thousands or more over time.

2 things:

1) That "rubber duck" will attract too much attention in any area of the country where there are people who aren't part of the group. Even the 2x4, if black and seen at a distance. Color matters not, maybe it should be some lighter color (or not painted - again, who cares about the color). To come close to the weight of a real rifle, the 2x4 should probably be made of treated lumber, which is far heavier than interior grade lumber.

2) Can anyone recommend a good surplus frame/rucksack package? It is all well and good to say "carry around x pounds in a rig," but those of us who never served don't know what to procure.

February 11, 2009 at 3:57 PM

Anonymous Anonymous said...

this is the one i use and have used for about 15 years now...10 of those on active duty.

Large Ruck w/Frame
a quick search found this one.

February 11, 2009 at 8:25 PM

Anonymous Mr. E said...

Thanks again to The Trainer.

Only thing I would add, as a second to what AmericanMercenary already said, is the great importance of practicing actual patrolling - as in off trails (trails are deathtraps!), cross country, through the brush, using noise discipline, security halts, rally points, the whole nine yards - and at night too.

That's when you really sort out your gear, learn to take care of your feet, learn how fast and quiet you can really move, and how far in a given night, etc. and really work out the bugs in all your skills, including land nav., hand signals, immediate action drills, etc.

That's really all that separates Rangers, SF, Seals, etc. from the rest of us - sound training, time in the bush, and fitness. They aren't super human, and any of you can arrive at the same level of skill and even approach their fitness (within our age limitations).

Trainer, you are providing the sound knowledge base, and then it is up to us to get out in the bush and "make it our own."

Mr. E

February 12, 2009 at 7:49 PM

Anonymous Mr. E said...

Another thougt Trainer:

Speaking from the perspective of a former soldier who is now getting older and feeling it, one other thing you might want to also address is effective calisthenics and stretching to improve mobility, agility, increase joint strength and range of motion, especially for us older guys.

Many of us are now like Treebeard from the Lord of The Rings - still strong as oaks, but not very, hmmm ... bendable.

Joint mobility and flexibility are important. I've seen men tear cartilage and ligaments in knees just trying to move and shoot tactically, such as while using "rice paddy prone" on uneven ground because they were heavy, inflexible, and had stiff joints.

One program you might want to give a look if you have not yet, is Flowfit, by RMAX. It is a fitness DVD that is FREE to veterans and current military. To get a free copy, go here:

http://www.flowfitforamericanheroes.com/index.php

It's real deal, no bull. I got one, for free, and have been using it for a couple months. Excellent!

Sort of a cross between PT style calasthinics, stretching, and movement yoga, and a perfect compliment to the road march training.

There are multiple levels, depending on your current level of fitness, with level one starting out standing and using a stool or chair for support, and then getting progressively more difficult.

From level 2 on, you are on the floor most of the time, going from standing, to squatting, moving in a squat, onto the floor, moving on the floor in various positions, including front leaning rest, and then back to your feet. Very challenging.

A good addition to cardio and strength work, and also complimentary to rucksack road work.

Just a suggestion.

Keep up the great work!

Mr. E

PS - here is some inspiration:

A video of a 40 year old Montana man who was obese and really out of shape, and who turned it around and lost over 100 lbs in less than a year. It's never too late!

http://www.transformation.com/ttv-hd/shane/

February 12, 2009 at 7:52 PM

Anonymous Mr. E said...

Just realized the Flowfit free DVD promotion is no longer in effect.

But it is still available on Amazon for $40.00. Still recommended.

Perhaps The Trainer or others have other suggestions.

February 12, 2009 at 8:06 PM

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