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"Praxis: Creating Secure Perimeter Fencing with Plant Life"

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Anonymous Anonymous said...

Century Plant (Agave americana)
Grows very well in the southwest.

July 17, 2010 at 12:51 PM

Anonymous Anonymous said...

Black and red raspberries, gooseberries and climbing roses are also good as either perimeter plants or right up against a window as a barrier to entry. Let 'em get overgrown so they are good and thorny.

July 17, 2010 at 2:04 PM

Anonymous Anonymous said...

Thanks for pointing readers to Survivalblog. It's a level-headed site.

July 17, 2010 at 4:34 PM

Blogger Sedition said...

I can attest to the effectiveness of the blackberry vines.
3 of the 4 sides of my back yard are covered in them. Every year I invent a slew of new curse words while harvesting the berries and by the end of it my hands look like I jammed them into a Cuisinart.

July 17, 2010 at 6:32 PM

Anonymous Defender said...

I swear, blackberry and other briars feel like they have VENOM in them. Should be very effective.
We have century plants that do very well here in Virginia, and they add a nice touch of green even in winter snow. Esthetically pleasing, plus you don't have to have them vaccinated or clean up their poop. African bushmen use a fence of thorns called a boma to defend their settlements. Even lions are deterred.

July 17, 2010 at 7:21 PM

Anonymous Anonymous said...

Blackberry is not particularly vicious. I have little difficulty flattening a trail through them with just my boots.

Berberis and gooseberries are nasty. the thorns snap off in the skin and get infected. I got one in a finger pad at Christmas time. It took until march before the last bits came out. lots of infection and discomfort.

The king of barrier plants the european side of the Atlantic is the blackthorn (prunis spinosa). it's thorns are really painful, snap off inside you and almost always get infected. it gives root suckers, so readily colonises an area, and makes good hedges. The little bitter plums make sloe gin. 75cl of gin one half to one pound of sugar (you can add more sugar but you can't take it out so start with 1/2 pound)and one pound of ripe sloes. leave them in the gin and sugar for a few weeks and the result is a rich dark red plum liquer. excellent at Christmas time.

Gorse is best avoided. you can just push through it and it burns too easily.

Hawthorn is ok, it makes good hedges

briar roses are good. there is one variety that has hips an inch accross and every single bit of the stem is covered in thorns. trouble is when wind blown litter gets caught up on them, it looks terrible and is a sod to clean up.

If you are in a climate where it will grow: African acacias with thorns up to 4" long are amazing things. I've had thorns a few times and have a big scar where one snapped and got infected.

July 17, 2010 at 8:20 PM

Blogger kenlowder said...

One may also consider the Osage orange. It's native to east Texas and Oklahoma. It has been used for years as natural fencing, wind brakes and its ideal for parameter security. It's long thorns will deter the most determined person when used as a hedge it quickly forms an impenetrable fence. Its wood is hard and long burning when used as a fuel.

My knockout roses under my windows make a great deterrent too. I just hate it when it comes time to trim them, hundreds of thorns.

Ken

July 18, 2010 at 2:09 AM

Anonymous yippeya III said...

I thought about placing a couple of bear traps for good measure, that would slow them down

July 18, 2010 at 7:38 AM

Blogger Dakota said...

I was thinking that harvest time must be a real bitch when you have layers of nasties hi and lo. Definitely a good idea to have approach points that are somewhat predictable.

During the civil war in Liberia one of the rebel factions decided to invade Monrovia (the capital) thru the swamp which surrounds the city on at least half and then there is the ocean on the otherside. That lost a large share of their force from crocodiles and other things that can get you in those places.

July 18, 2010 at 10:21 AM

Anonymous Anonymous said...

All of these plantings could be breached with an old pickup truck backing through them. Consider imbedding a fence in your planting and perhaps some kind of vehicle proof poles every few feet. I like the idea of creating "natural" places in your landscape that would appear to be hiding places or cover. A rock, a planting, a tree, etc. Then wire up one or two of those lights that is buryed in the ground right where a prudent person might conceal themselves. Make sure your light control panel has individual switches for each "light" and that they are well marked so you would know which one you are "lighting up". Then if/when the SHTF you can replace the light with something more useful for dissuading prowlers. I would of course never suggest you break the law so what you choose to put there in place of the lights is up to you.

July 18, 2010 at 11:15 AM

Blogger Pat H. said...

Let me add to the list:

1. Sea Berry, also known as Buckthorn, a native of northern Germany,Latvia, and Russia. Very hardy, it's actually the limbs that end in sharp points like thorns.

2. Possibly the most effective is Berberis Julianae also known as Juliana Barbery, Wintergreen barberry, or Chinese barberry. It's 1.5 inch thorns are very nasty. I'm working on getting enough to plant widely and making more plants via cuttings.

July 18, 2010 at 1:19 PM

Blogger Allen said...

I've been using oriental bittersweet..because, well..it's already THERE. this stuff grows everywhere here in NH. I'd call it "new england kudzu" but at least animals can eat kudzu so it has some redeemable properties LOL.

thorn..no..edible..no. but it grows VERY dense. some of the vines from this will reach 8" across after a few years. and if you work with it a bit you can turn just about any treeline into an impenetrable hedge (Normandy, anyone?)

July 18, 2010 at 4:50 PM

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