What a shame we never got in the habit of refusing unconstitutional orders long ago. Just think of all those overseas combat deployments without benefit of the Constitutionally-mandated Declaration of War (and the ensuing disabled veterans) we could have avoided, not to mention all the pissed-off foreign nationals who are now willing to kill themselves as long as they take a few (dozen, hundred, thousand, million) of us with them when they go.
Hell, we might even be able to fly to Las Vegas without getting a free rectal exam.
April 3, 2015 at 8:41 AM
Anonymous said...
If Martial Law Comes to America “Dissidents and Subversives Would Be Rounded Up”
I sure hope we can pick up some high, experienced brass from this purge. We have the soldiers, both ex-military and civilian. We also have the arms. And quite frankly, I wished we could just go ahead and get started with this civil war before our country deteriorates more and we run the ever increasing risk getting nuked from the middle east.
April 3, 2015 at 9:59 AM
Anonymous said...
Thank you Obama for what you are doing to this country!
If I were the Devil . . . I mean, if I were the Prince of Darkness, I would of course, want to engulf the whole earth in darkness. I would have a third of its real estate and four-fifths of its population, but I would not be happy until I had seized the ripest apple on the tree, so I should set about however necessary to take over the United States.
I would begin with a campaign of whispers. With the wisdom of a serpent, I would whisper to you as I whispered to Eve: “Do as you please.” “Do as you please.”
To the young, I would whisper, “The Bible is a myth.” I would convince them that man created God instead of the other way around. I would confide that what is bad is good, and what is good is “square”.
In the ears of the young marrieds, I would whisper that work is debasing, that cocktail parties are good for you. I would caution them not to be extreme in religion, in patriotism, in moral conduct.
And the old, I would teach to pray. I would teach them to say after me: “Our Father, which art in Washington” . . .
If I were the devil, I’d educate authors in how to make lurid literature exciting so that anything else would appear dull an uninteresting. I’d threaten T.V. with dirtier movies and vice versa.
And then, if I were the devil, I’d get organized. I’d infiltrate unions and urge more loafing and less work, because idle hands usually work for me.
I’d peddle narcotics to whom I could. I’d sell alcohol to ladies and gentlemen of distinction. And I’d tranquilize the rest with pills.
If I were the devil, I would encourage schools to refine young intellects but neglect to discipline emotions . . . let those run wild. I would designate an atheist to front for me before the highest courts in the land and I would get preachers to say “she’s right.”
With flattery and promises of power, I could get the courts to rule what I construe as against God and in favor of pornography, and thus, I would evict God from the courthouse, and then from the school house, and then from the houses of Congress and then, in His own churches I would substitute psychology for religion, and I would deify science because that way men would become smart enough to create super weapons, but not wise enough to control them.
If I were Satan, I’d make the symbol of Easter an egg and the symbol of Christmas a bottle. If I were the devil, I would take from those who have and I would give to those who wanted, until I had killed the incentive of the ambitious. And then, my police state would force everybody back to work. Then, I could separate families, putting children in uniform, women in coal mines, and objectors in slave camps.
In other words, if I were Satan, I’d just keep on doing what he’s doing.
Paul Harvey, Good Day.
Death before slavery!
Comrade X
April 3, 2015 at 11:59 AM
Anonymous said...
According to http://www.military1.com the military will soon relax their policy on tattoos.
April 3, 2015 at 1:42 PM
Anonymous said...
During my first tour, I witnessed an unlawful order refused the grand total of one time. It was heartwarming to see the Lt. Promptly meltdown.
April 3, 2015 at 5:35 PM
Anonymous said...
The war is over. They are winning it through mass immigration and common core education. What remains of the traditional American culture will be wiped away within 20 years without firing a shot.
April 3, 2015 at 10:00 PM
Anonymous said...
Funding any military conflict beyond 90 days IS a formal "law passed and signed" declaration of war.
Why some refuse to ADMIT THAT is beyond me. Face THIS FACT, please. A STANDING ARMY means this - the MILITIA has BEEN CALLED FORTH and it JAS BEEN ORGANIZED.... At which point it's DIRECTION is no longer within the purview of CONGRESS! Indeed, the commander in chief NOW has that DUE AUTHORITY-per that thing called the constitution. Of course, congress RETAINS the power of the purse, which constitutionally is TWO YEARS- the longest a military budget is allowed to extend- but congress actually checked that authority to less than ninety days!!!
There are CONSEQUENCES to having a STANDING army, my friends. Commander in Chief CONTROL over them is but one of them.
Anyone caring to offer a beat down of this explanation is quite welcome to offer it. Otherwise, please dispense with the "formal declaration of war" DOGMA, please?! Don't be like the anti gunners trying to hide your true position - if you want the standing army disbanded, SAY SO OPENLY! If you simply don't understand the impacts and consequences of having a standing army, then learn this lesson taught. Learn about the war powers act and WHY it came to be -especially the STANDING army (called forth and organized militia) factor. When you do, you will see the tough lesson - choices have consequences. Want your cake and wanna eat it too? Then argue HONESTLY for a serious amendment process to allow a standing military -army especially- in peace time that is NOT controllable by the the CIC- but please consider the consequences of THAT- especially upon the other military branches (most especially the Navy) all the while figuring out HOW to honor the founders and framers GENUINE worry that in some situations ONE person must be tasked with making the call (because matters of self defense cannot always be debated endlessly while hundreds of people jockey for position).
This takes honesty - not dogma and couched talking points.
April 4, 2015 at 12:00 AM
Anonymous said...
You forgot to mention that the current crowd that is leaving the military is very very pissed off. Everyone I know, myself included, who could get out has left. Many of us are in the Guard or Reserves but many others left completely. I dont begrudge my brothers who decided to stay and put up with the b.s. We have abdicated our schools, our media, and our bureaucracy to the statists. It will be a pretty bad day for freedom when we finally give up on our currently serving Oathkeepers.
There is a reason that the III percent ideology has resonated so deeply within the vet community.
No, a declaration of war is not just some random act of Congress. 'DoW' has a formal definition and does not include such frippery as AUMFs which, if you're on the losing side, actually can get you hung for war crimes.
Regardless, Congress is charged with declaring war and is not granted power to delegate this burden via AUMFs or otherwise. Going to war is supposed to be an overt act accompanied by (we hope) deep thought. This country doesn't do that anymore.
It’s time – it’s well past time – we demand answers to difficult questions before we send our children abroad with orders to kill. We need to ask – and get believable answers to – questions like
What do we hope to accomplish? How will we know when we’re done? What repercussions should we expect? Is it lawful? Is it moral? Is it just? Is it practical? How much is this going to cost?
For those who think going to war is heaps o' fun, this will be too much work. I always stay hopeful those who are primarily responsible for all our 'wounded warriors' will one day figure out what they're doing.
"Bill Whittle: 'Sir, I Will Not Obey that Order'"
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For every action there exists an opposite and equal reaction in regards to force.
April 3, 2015 at 6:37 AM
What a shame we never got in the habit of refusing unconstitutional orders long ago. Just think of all those overseas combat deployments without benefit of the Constitutionally-mandated Declaration of War (and the ensuing disabled veterans) we could have avoided, not to mention all the pissed-off foreign nationals who are now willing to kill themselves as long as they take a few (dozen, hundred, thousand, million) of us with them when they go.
Hell, we might even be able to fly to Las Vegas without getting a free rectal exam.
April 3, 2015 at 8:41 AM
If Martial Law Comes to America “Dissidents and Subversives Would Be Rounded Up”
http://www.shtfplan.com/headline-news/if-martial-law-comes-to-america-dissidents-and-subversives-would-be-rounded-up_04032015
April 3, 2015 at 9:23 AM
I sure hope we can pick up some high, experienced brass from this purge. We have the soldiers, both ex-military and civilian. We also have the arms. And quite frankly, I wished we could just go ahead and get started with this civil war before our country deteriorates more and we run the ever increasing risk getting nuked from the middle east.
April 3, 2015 at 9:59 AM
Thank you Obama for what you are doing to this country!
https://iconicphotos.files.wordpress.com/2009/08/johnny-cash-finger-2.jpg?w=700
April 3, 2015 at 11:53 AM
We all know who Obama really is;
If I were the Devil . . . I mean, if I were the Prince of Darkness, I would of course, want to engulf the whole earth in darkness. I would have a third of its real estate and four-fifths of its population, but I would not be happy until I had seized the ripest apple on the tree, so I should set about however necessary to take over the United States.
I would begin with a campaign of whispers. With the wisdom of a serpent, I would whisper to you as I whispered to Eve: “Do as you please.” “Do as you please.”
To the young, I would whisper, “The Bible is a myth.” I would convince them that man created God instead of the other way around. I would confide that what is bad is good, and what is good is “square”.
In the ears of the young marrieds, I would whisper that work is debasing, that cocktail parties are good for you. I would caution them not to be extreme in religion, in patriotism, in moral conduct.
And the old, I would teach to pray. I would teach them to say after me: “Our Father, which art in Washington” . . .
If I were the devil, I’d educate authors in how to make lurid literature exciting so that anything else would appear dull an uninteresting. I’d threaten T.V. with dirtier movies and vice versa.
And then, if I were the devil, I’d get organized. I’d infiltrate unions and urge more loafing and less work, because idle hands usually work for me.
I’d peddle narcotics to whom I could. I’d sell alcohol to ladies and gentlemen of distinction. And I’d tranquilize the rest with pills.
If I were the devil, I would encourage schools to refine young intellects but neglect to discipline emotions . . . let those run wild. I would designate an atheist to front for me before the highest courts in the land and I would get preachers to say “she’s right.”
With flattery and promises of power, I could get the courts to rule what I construe as against God and in favor of pornography, and thus, I would evict God from the courthouse, and then from the school house, and then from the houses of Congress and then, in His own churches I would substitute psychology for religion, and I would deify science because that way men would become smart enough to create super weapons, but not wise enough to control them.
If I were Satan, I’d make the symbol of Easter an egg and the symbol
of Christmas a bottle. If I were the devil, I would take from those
who have and I would give to those who wanted, until I had killed the incentive of the ambitious. And then, my police state would force everybody back to work. Then, I could separate families, putting children in uniform, women in coal mines, and objectors in slave camps.
In other words, if I were Satan,
I’d just keep on doing what he’s doing.
Paul Harvey, Good Day.
Death before slavery!
Comrade X
April 3, 2015 at 11:59 AM
According to http://www.military1.com the military will soon relax their policy on tattoos.
April 3, 2015 at 1:42 PM
During my first tour, I witnessed an unlawful order refused the grand total of one time. It was heartwarming to see the Lt. Promptly meltdown.
April 3, 2015 at 5:35 PM
The war is over. They are winning it through mass immigration and common core education. What remains of the traditional American culture will be wiped away within 20 years without firing a shot.
April 3, 2015 at 10:00 PM
Funding any military conflict beyond 90 days IS a formal "law passed and signed" declaration of war.
Why some refuse to ADMIT THAT is beyond me.
Face THIS FACT, please. A STANDING ARMY means this - the MILITIA has BEEN CALLED FORTH and it JAS BEEN ORGANIZED.... At which point it's DIRECTION is no longer within the purview of CONGRESS! Indeed, the commander in chief NOW has that DUE AUTHORITY-per that thing called the constitution. Of course, congress RETAINS the power of the purse, which constitutionally is TWO YEARS- the longest a military budget is allowed to extend- but congress actually checked that authority to less than ninety days!!!
There are CONSEQUENCES to having a STANDING army, my friends. Commander in Chief CONTROL over them is but one of them.
Anyone caring to offer a beat down of this explanation is quite welcome to offer it. Otherwise, please dispense with the "formal declaration of war" DOGMA, please?! Don't be like the anti gunners trying to hide your true position - if you want the standing army disbanded, SAY SO OPENLY! If you simply don't understand the impacts and consequences of having a standing army, then learn this lesson taught. Learn about the war powers act and WHY it came to be -especially the STANDING army (called forth and organized militia) factor. When you do, you will see the tough lesson - choices have consequences. Want your cake and wanna eat it too? Then argue HONESTLY for a serious amendment process to allow a standing military -army especially- in peace time that is NOT controllable by the the CIC- but please consider the consequences of THAT- especially upon the other military branches (most especially the Navy) all the while figuring out HOW to honor the founders and framers GENUINE worry that in some situations ONE person must be tasked with making the call (because matters of self defense cannot always be debated endlessly while hundreds of people jockey for position).
This takes honesty - not dogma and couched talking points.
April 4, 2015 at 12:00 AM
You forgot to mention that the current crowd that is leaving the military is very very pissed off. Everyone I know, myself included, who could get out has left. Many of us are in the Guard or Reserves but many others left completely. I dont begrudge my brothers who decided to stay and put up with the b.s. We have abdicated our schools, our media, and our bureaucracy to the statists. It will be a pretty bad day for freedom when we finally give up on our currently serving Oathkeepers.
There is a reason that the III percent ideology has resonated so deeply within the vet community.
April 4, 2015 at 1:58 AM
Anon @ 12.00
No, a declaration of war is not just some random act of Congress. 'DoW' has a formal definition and does not include such frippery as AUMFs which, if you're on the losing side, actually can get you hung for war crimes.
Regardless, Congress is charged with declaring war and is not granted power to delegate this burden via AUMFs or otherwise. Going to war is supposed to be an overt act accompanied by (we hope) deep thought. This country doesn't do that anymore.
It’s time – it’s well past time – we demand answers to difficult questions before we send our children abroad with orders to kill. We need to ask – and get believable answers to – questions like
What do we hope to accomplish?
How will we know when we’re done?
What repercussions should we expect?
Is it lawful?
Is it moral?
Is it just?
Is it practical?
How much is this going to cost?
For those who think going to war is heaps o' fun, this will be too much work. I always stay hopeful those who are primarily responsible for all our 'wounded warriors' will one day figure out what they're doing.
April 4, 2015 at 10:35 AM