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"Nuit blanche Yeahs, Nahs & Wha?-s"

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Blogger Amy Fung said...

great questions!

October 4, 2010 at 11:33 PM

Blogger Ingrid Mida said...

Leah,
What a thoughtful and complete analysis of the event. I really appreciated all you had to say. What particularly interested me were your comments regarding the participation of larger institutions, the payment of artist fees, and the boundaries between contemporary art and spectacle for this event. Artists like me who create smaller and/or more subtle, introspective work have no place in such an event and that is why it isn't high on my priority list.

October 5, 2010 at 9:00 AM

Anonymous Anonymous said...

GREAT POST

October 5, 2010 at 9:53 AM

Blogger Leah Sandals said...

Thanks guys! I enjoyed your post as well, Amy. Great to see the event through first-timer eyes. http://prairieartsters.blogspot.com

October 5, 2010 at 10:42 AM

Anonymous Anonymous said...

Thanks for all of your thoughts and observations, and great questions too (especially that last one in this context). A wrap-up like this is wonderful to read for those like myself who were out of town this year.

October 5, 2010 at 1:19 PM

Blogger Unknown said...

Great post! My 2 cents, for people that gripe about the art sucking - when was the last time you did an all day gallery tour and liked everything? Art can and does frequently suck inside the white cube. Opinions are like *s.

October 6, 2010 at 12:20 AM

Anonymous Powell MacDougall said...

Loved the overview. I think that you need to be appointed as a Zone curator! But would you take the post if offered?

October 6, 2010 at 12:31 PM

Blogger Leah Sandals said...

Hey guys,
Thanks for the support.

@nick, good point about art in galleries also being capable of suck. No art event is perfect, that's for sure, or at least perfection is rare.

@Powell, ha ha, touché! No, I'm not planning on curating--it's not something I'm good at. What I'm better at (though not perpetually)-->pointing shit out and writing about it. So I'm going to stick to the latter.

October 6, 2010 at 11:09 PM

Anonymous Christine Irving said...

I am still picking myself up off the ground after reading $400,000 went to Daniel Lanois! Most artist setup for free or scrounged for our own sponsors. My piece, Flux and Fire, cost me $8,000 of which I am slowly paying off: we setup a beer tent near our art with 100% of funds going towards the art piece (participants could sponsor us with $5 beers) but we were so off grid that the number of participants who came out was not enough to help offset the costs.

The art piece itself was highly interactive and only the second time a Burning Man piece has come to Toronto. I loved the looks on children and participant faces as they engaged with my art but I will not be able to do another Nuit Blanche without a sponsor or support; especially after hearing how much goes to exhibition pieces.

We should note that exhibition pieces are a closed selection process. Artists are not able to submit a proposal for consideration. This is a huge downfall of Nuit Blanche no one is talking about; this flaw cuts out local artists and the opportunity to fund larger interactive local pieces. Here is my most recent one for Burning Man 2010 and just an example of what Canadian artists are up to in the underground art scene. http://www.facebook.com/album.php?aid=33442&id=110838035623226

Here are a few photos and videos from the evening. Lineups were never longer than 20 minutes as we had so few participants wandering Liberty Village.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/droolingcrow/5048609300/

http://www.flickr.com/photos/syncros/5054211459/

http://www.flickr.com/photos/jennyrotten/5046883549/

I want Nuit Blanche to succeed but doing a post mortem - which would include artitsts and public - is mandatory.

October 7, 2010 at 12:55 PM

Blogger Leah Sandals said...

Hey Christine,

That looks like a pretty crazy project! Whoa.

I did look at the Nuit Blanche material and there is an Open Call component. I guess if you get selected for an Open Call project you can get some "funding and production support" - http://www.toronto.ca/special_events/nuitblanche/pdf/2010/snb10release_opencall_09dec09.pdf

I commend you for trying to raise funds yourself on the evening of the event, but yes, since Liberty Village was not part of the "official" exhibitions this year I bet traffic was slower.

As I indicated in my post, I'm kind of two minds about this, or I guess to me it's an open question--how should artists be compensated for participating in NB? Is the exposure enough? I can say for Speed Art Criticism, the exposure was enough for me, at least this year; but we had outlays of time only, not money. (Though, yes, time is money, and we resisted outlays of cash, knowing that there would be none forthcoming.)

Would it have helped you save some money if the festival had been more upfront about the fact that artists do not get paid for independent projects, and can't expect to recoup their costs through the fest? How does it work for you financially at other fests?

Just wondering. I appreciate you sharing your experience! And the video!

October 7, 2010 at 5:19 PM

Anonymous Christine Irving said...

Hi Amy,

Just to clarify, open call is an afterthought pablum to keep local artists appeased. Open call at a maximum (please note maximum) offers $1,000 for an artist honorarium and $1,500 for production.

Open call does not scratch the surface of fair distribution of funds when one completely closed category - curated exhibitions - has such outlandish budgets as $400,000 for one piece.

For example, my art piece cost $8,000 to create and fuel. Plus we had to purchase our own safety fence, our own garbage cans to ensure the area was clean post event, pay for the provincial safety inspectors etc.

Had there been a submission process for exhibitions, who knows what amazing art might have surfaced for all Torontonians to enjoy.

The closed nature and large budgets available to exhibits are my issue with Nuit Blanche.

October 7, 2010 at 8:16 PM

Anonymous Christine Irving said...

Hi Amy,

One last item. I am a long time Burner and have been making art out of my desire to share at Burning Man and local events. My most recent project "The Heart Machine" was a major piece that still cost me money to make but I enjoyed doing as a group of volunteers.

The big difference between my experience as an artist at Burning Man and as an artist at Nuit Blanche is there was no option to submit our larger piece of art for consideration. At Burning Man, you will not see $400,000 going towards one piece. Instead, partial amounts are given to chosen projects to assist with funding.

I think Nuit Blanche should take a look at the Burning Man model of art funding and their fined tunred appreciation of artists who donate their time and creativity.

I do greatly appreciate your review and views and I look forward to your comments.

October 7, 2010 at 8:25 PM

Blogger sally said...

"Also... to belabour this point further, there are plenty of events in the art world where people get drunk--they're called openings and fundraisers. So is the "problem" that it's "non-art-world-folks" getting in on the falling-down-drunk action here? Sometimes that's what the "problem" seems like to me."

WOOT! Right on Leah. The one thing I truly love about Nuit Blanche is the eye-opening fact that lots and lots and lots of people will gather around contemporary art when the hierarchical art world barriers are dropped. So some of us whoop a lot and then stagger around, and nearly all of us take pictures of each other, and maybe somteimes we are paying more attention to our friends and our maps and our apps than to the art. But it really seems that most people, even in the midst of carousing, are quite intensely curious about the artworks and/or want to get the most out of them that they can. It's pretty inspiring.

October 7, 2010 at 11:46 PM

Blogger Tara Bursey said...

Hi Leah,

Thanks for this awesome rundown!

On a somewhat unrelated note, do you know if anyone got any photo-documentation of Speed Art Criticism? I'm writing about it, and my short session with Elena Potter, for school and could use an image to go with the short review.

Thanks a bunch!

October 8, 2010 at 12:24 PM

Anonymous Michael Wheeler said...

Amazing rundown Leah. I especially appreciated the questions you raise about how to translate a single evening where Torontonians are interested in contemporary art to a general culture of being into it.

I don't know if I have a clear thesis about how to achieve this, but certainly it is also a preoccupation of contemporary theatre as it fits into the capital A Art World in Toronto. There are some parallels with the Fringe Festival in this regard:

For 10 days in July seeing crazy and unconventional theatrical performances is a reasonable thing to do for people, and then not so much for the rest of the year. Summerworks is doing really well at broadening the appeal of that sort of experience as it blends with Queen W. and indie music - but again in a temporary festival context.

How to translate this sort of transient interest from the general public to consistent passion and excitement is the million dollar question for all of us capital A contemporary artists. This exists already in NYC, Moscow, Montreal, London, and Paris (also probably others). It is possible - will we get there? Jury is still out.

Speaking of art in other places - Dave Meslin has republished his post on his blog about Scotiabank naming rightsand Nuit Blache internationally- noting that other Nuit Blanches in the world don't let the sponsor incorporate their name in the official title of the event. Nuit Blanche in Paris is called: Nuit Blanche. Same with everywhere else. Seeing as Scotiabank just re-extended for 4 years the post - originally from 2007 - still seems relevant:

http://meslin.wordpress.com/2009/10/03/black_sheep_09/#comment-728

October 10, 2010 at 11:05 AM

Blogger Leah Sandals said...

Hey Michael,

Thanks for your thoughts. I think the Fringe is an amazing festival that way too, in that it has an open, accessible feel and presents such a wide range of work. I wonder whether that gap will be bridged as well to larger institutions.

I guess one of the points that comes across about the Fringe and Nuit Blanche is that, although they are extremely different in scale and other natures, they present as (relatively) friendly, unpretentious and affordable. I really hope our major institutions can integrate some of those qualities. I know other elements like public education and media coverage can likely aid matters too--it's a complex question!

Thanks also for reposting Dave Meslin's comments on the corporate branding of Toronto's Nuit Blanche. It seems like naming rights are of increasing interest to Scotiabank and other types of arts sponsors. (How else would we have ended up with a "Michael and Sonja Koerner Director" of the AGO?) Scotiabank also demanded a name rebrand of the Contact Festival when it came on board as a sponsor this year. (Now it's officially known as the "Scotiabank Contact Festival".) Also, it's worth noting that Winnipeg just had its first "Scotiabank Nuit Blanche" last month. And also that Halifax is running its third annual "Nocturne" event, sponsored by a variety of corporations - http://www.artgalleryofnovascotia.ca/en/nocturne/about/faqs.aspx - but none of them "name sponsors", this month.

In the end, all this stuff comes down to what the sponsor and arts org are willing to agree to. It seems like Scotiabank in particular is really interested in naming rights for the arts fests it sponsors. But it's also not alone in having that interest. I don't know what the answer is, but that name-branding is worth noting.

October 11, 2010 at 3:45 PM

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