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Blogger Caliban said...

Hi Simon, thanks for the battle report. I don't know much about these rules, so your description of this game is very informative. It does seem somewhat harsh not to allow closer formation troops to enter rough terrain. Most rulesets will let them do so, at a disadvantage. It seems a bit much for a few skirmishers to hold up all those legionaries like that! Lovely figures, as always.

Cheers
Paul

13 October 2011 at 21:26

Blogger BigRedBat said...

Hi Paul, yes it is a bit bonkers; javelin range is 6", but get withing 12" of even a tiny bunch of skirmishers, in a wood, and one is stuffed.

I think we'll need to rewrite the proximity rule. In the meanwhile, to cope with GErmans in woods, I shall need some Roman light infantry, maybe that's why there is that carving from Mainz...

http://www.fotobank.ru/image/BA02-2774.html

13 October 2011 at 21:46

Blogger Beccas said...

Great looking game and AAR.

14 October 2011 at 02:03

Blogger Ray Rousell said...

Excellent looking game, the figures are painted beautifully and the building are superb.

14 October 2011 at 07:18

Blogger Cyrus said...

Great looking game Simon. You need more skirmishers with your legions. A small unit or two of auxilliary archers would have sorted them out.

14 October 2011 at 08:42

Blogger BigRedBat said...

Thanks chaps.

Cyrus, I probably need to model a cohort of auxilia, in open order. Or some legionaries in expediti...

Cheers, Simon

14 October 2011 at 09:25

Blogger Christopher(aka Axebreaker) said...

Game look just superb and a simple house rule or two should fix any problems your having. Really need to try a game of this sometime.

Christopher

14 October 2011 at 17:29

Blogger The Lord of Excess said...

I'm looking forward to hearing more on this ... for sure I'm getting into 28 MM Romans after the first of the year. Though I picked up the HC rules, I have no experience with it yet ... so the jury is still out for me on what rules we will ultimately settle on once this gets rolling in our game group. Looking forward to hearing more about your experiences with it! Thank you!

15 October 2011 at 00:09

Blogger BigRedBat said...

IMHO the HC rules have good mechanics, but also gaps and some elements that could be improved. And I'd have the editor shot; it would be a mercy killing. ;-) But we aren't playing anything else at the moment!

15 October 2011 at 08:55

Blogger generulpoleaxe said...

Cool battle report (nice pics) :)

15 October 2011 at 12:10

Blogger The Lord of Excess said...

Well keep up the awesome posts on this, seriously this will be a life saver for me when we fire up HC in December.

I'll go back and check your previous posts, but to pose the question here. DO you guys have any advice for gamers transitioning from mostly GW gaming into 28 MM historicals (Ancients to start, then Pike and Shotte ... probably Black Powder)?

15 October 2011 at 19:24

Anonymous Anonymous said...

Page 20 of the rulebook. Other infantry or cavalry (eg. Heavy Infantry) can adopt only open order when moving in situations where they could not move without incurring some penalty (e.g. heavy infantry entering woods)
Page 34 proximity rule and open order troops. Units in other formations ( e.g. battle line or column) can choose to ignore enemies in open order when it comes to the proximity rules. So no problem in getting stuffed because a bunch of skirmisher in a wood or a flank.
I hope it helps.
Great battle report and outstanding miniatures and terrain.

Cheers
Javier

15 October 2011 at 21:13

Blogger Rodger said...

Lovely photos and I enjoyed the report.

15 October 2011 at 23:57

Blogger BigRedBat said...

Hi Javier,

Thanks that is very helpful! I looked at page 38, and it says that infantry in open order could move through woods, and other troops not at all. I assumed that heavy infantry were included in this "other" category… reading the separate section on open order, that now makes more sense.

And I completely missed the proximity and open order troops section… that also makes a lot more sense. We could have pinned the skirmishers with a unit to their front, and marched the legion around them.

Sooo… clearly a lot more rule reading to do!

Thanks to all for for nice comments re minis and terrain.

Cheers,

Simon

16 October 2011 at 00:13

Blogger Dalauppror said...

Realy nice AAR and lovely pictures !

Best regards Dalauppror

1 November 2011 at 20:31

Thanks for commenting. I will post this as soon as I am able to review it.
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