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"The dropout crisis"

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Blogger john personna said...

"Is it even possible to envision a system of public education in high-poverty cities that actually succeeds in achieving the 90-90-90 goal (90% graduation rate, 90% achievement at grade level, 90% continuation to post-secondary education)"
In my day the tough kids skipped college and went into construction. When I bump into them now I find that many did as well as the college group. And of course they built a lot of houses.

I wonder who builds the houses in these 90% schemes? If you have college graduates build them, isn't that another sort of waste in human capital?

May 21, 2010 at 6:55 AM

Anonymous Anonymous said...

Many of these efforts to help the kids who don't excell in school ignore some fundamental facts. First of all, although IQ measurement and usefulness is much discredited these days it is one of the things to consider regarding this issue. We don't live in Lake Woebegone and the bell curve of normal IQ distribution is a reality. Half the populace has an IQ below 100. It's silly to think 90% of kids with sub-100 IQs are going on to post-secondary education.

Second, there's been a change in the nature of jobs available to those who aren't able to participate effectively in the "information/service economy". It used to be that if you could get to Detroit or it's manufacturing equivalent somewhere else you could get a job paying a good living wage. Now that those jobs have largely disappeared to outsourcing the "equivalent" is something in the service industry. Even many of the construction jobs have become non-living-wage largely because of labor competition.

What's the answer? Who knows. If the education and employment success future belongs only to the brightest a big chunk of the populace is doomed. I predict that at least a third of todays kids are destined to earn essentially minumum wage throughout most of their lives. Our once thriving manufacturing economy can't thrive and produce good-paying jobs based on a new paradigm of manufacturing hamburgers and selling them to each other.

May 21, 2010 at 12:31 PM

Blogger Tao Dao Man said...

Great site.
Thank you for having this.

May 21, 2010 at 1:12 PM

Blogger Dan Little said...

To "anonymous":

I agree with your first comment -- that the concept of IQ measurement is very much discredited. I like Ned Block's book on this subject from almost 40 years ago -- "The IQ Controversy". I don't think we've come anywhere close to the goal of educating children to their potential. The purpose of education, in my opinion, is allowing the student to fully develop his or her intellectual and cognitive talents, and everyone needs more rather than less of this. Moreover, I don't think the population of dropouts and graduates breaks down into "low IQ/high IQ" segments; rather, the children who wind up dropping out may have great potential but may have encountered enormous obstacles that made education unattainable. I'm glad for your comments, since they focus attention on some of the important areas of facts that arise in this topic.

May 21, 2010 at 6:23 PM

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