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Blogger Terry Goodkind said...

Thank you for the write-up, Alan. You draw many interesting conclusions and include a wide array of information in this post. I'd like to help clarify many of your assumptions, however. There's a god deal of (unintentionally) wrong info that might bring some clarity.

Would you like to do an interview of some kind? Thank you.

2:31 AM

Blogger Anne Lyle said...

"However, given the power imbalance I mentioned, publishers are far from helpless in this situation. There is no reason that a publishing contract can't include a prohibition against the author self-publishing anything without the publisher's permission. And for first time authors (who have almost no power compared to their publishers), clauses like that may become a standard part of many contracts. "

As a commercially published debut author, there is no way I would have agreed to this kind of non-competitive clause in a contract, and I doubt my agent would give it the time of day.

It's been the case all through publishing history that authors have started out with one house and gone elsewhere for more money on the next deal, and publishers have never found it necessary to try and prevent this. Switching from trade to self-pub is no different. Yes, it must be tough when you build an author up only to get dumped, but that's business for you. Writers are partners in the publishing process, not indentured labour.

7:02 AM

Blogger Adam Whitehead said...

A further development in the story: Goodkind has publicly named and shamed someone who allegedly pirated the book and distributed it on the Internet.

http://thewertzone.blogspot.co.uk/2012/07/terry-goodkind-publicly-names-and.html

9:35 AM

Blogger Borderlands Books said...

Dear Mr. Goodkind,

Thanks for posting. I thought it was unlikely that my guesses would all be correct and I think that some clarity would be great. I'd be very pleased to do an interview about this. If you'll drop me an email at abeatts@borderlands-books.com we can work out the details.

Warm Regards,
Alan

11:52 AM

Blogger Borderlands Books said...

Dear Ms. Lyle,

I think you have an excellent point,

"there is no way I would have agreed to this kind of non-competitive clause in a contract, and I doubt my agent would give it the time of day."

I think you are wise in your first point and correct in your second. An decent agent wouldn't consider accepting a contract with that sort of clause in it. Not at this time. But, as a professional you know that the usual elements of publishing contracts shift overtime. For example, there didn't used to be any mention of audio or ebook rights in contracts but now clauses regarding them are pretty standard. And, in the case of ebooks, clauses used to flatly reserve the right for the publisher whereas now there is more room to negotiate them. I was suggesting that the contracts may shift, not that they will or that the shift will be universal or uncontested.

Also, relative to agent's advice, there are still a non-trivial number of authors who get their first publishing deal without an agent. And who won't get an agents advice.

I do disagree with you on one point, however. "It's been the case all through publishing history that authors have started out with one house and gone elsewhere for more money on the next deal, and publishers have never found it necessary to try and prevent this." I think that the common "right of first refusal" clause in book contracts is an example of just the sort of prevention you mention. There an excellent discussion of how that clause can work here : http://markterrybooks.blogspot.com/2011/01/book-contracts-101-part-11-right-of.html .

Thanks for posting and sharing your observations.

Best,
Alan

12:11 PM

Blogger Eric Rhoads said...

I really do not understand the loyalty aspect of this argument. Tor was Mr. Goodkind's publisher, not his Patron. Risk management is a part of publishing. Implied or mandated loyalty from authors to publishers due to that risk is anachronistic. Adding more onerous terms to contracts when authors have more an more options to distribute their works doesn't seem to be the smartest move. I will go out on a limb and say by this point, Mr. Goodkind's sales have paid off any debt he owes to Tor "finding" him.

2:50 PM

Blogger Michael J. Sullivan said...

As a writer, I find what you are putting forth quite disturbing. Basically what you are advocating is that authors should be prohibited from producing the goods that we make our livings from. I've been both self-published and traditionally published and the income from self is much greater due to the higher percentage that I receive in that arrangement. I'm currently negotiating my next contract and although the advance is a very good, it won't cover my bills. So you are suggesting that I should be forced to get a "day job" in an unrelated field to keep my family fed? Why shouldn't I instead be able to put out a self-published book between now and the year it will take my publisher to get their book on the market? I traditionally publish so that I can reach a larger audience (even though my per book earnings is less), but if doing so means that I have to seek outside employment why would I ?

Thinking like this is very dangerous, if publishers were to add clauses that prevent authors from self-publishing we would have no choice but to abandon traditional publishing altogether so we can control our own means of production and put out books on a schedule that our financial situations require.

4:31 PM

Blogger Borderlands Books said...

Dear Mr. Sullivan,

I'm quite sorry if you got the impression that I was "advocating" anything in my post. I was not. I don't think that clauses preventing self-publishing would be a beneficial addition to publishing contracts for anyone -- authors, readers or publishers. The most positive thing that I said about the possibility of such clauses was that they "don't seem totally unreasonable". If you'll look at some of my other posts, you'll see that when I'm "advocating" for something, I'm never that luke-warm about it.

Further I certainly wasn't suggesting that you give up your enviable position of being able to write full-time and instead "get a day job". Finally, I can't see any reason that you shouldn't put out a self-published book, regardless of when it falls in your publisher's schedule.

I think it's admirable that you've found what seems to be a comfortable balance between self- and traditional publishing. However, your experience with that is not universal. Some authors such as yourself get more income from self-publishing compared to traditional publishing. For others it is the reverse. And there are plenty of authors who have started with self-publishing and then moved completely to traditional publishing, in some cases with a great feeling of relief since they can now just concentrate on writing and leave the rest of the work to someone else. It is obvious that, in your case, you would move to exclusively self-publishing if your traditional publisher force an either/or choice on you. But I don't think that it's reasonable to assume that all authors (or even a majority) would feel the same.

Thanks very much for your post and for joining in on the conversation.

Sincerely,
Alan

8:02 PM

Blogger Michael J. Sullivan said...

Thanks Alan,

I think it was statements like this, "However, given the power imbalance I mentioned, publishers are far from helpless in this situation. There is no reason that a publishing contract can't include a prohibition against the author self-publishing anything without the publisher's permission." That made me think you were advocating. This is the first time I've read any of your articles, so have no way to judge that this was a "luke-warm" statement.

To be clear, I'm not "both" at the moment...I started with self-publishing and am currently completely traditional. Six-figure contracts seem like "a dream" but when you consider self-employment taxes, the time it takes to produce books, and the fact that I live in a high cost of living area (yes I could move but I'm waiting for my son to finish high-school and get on his own - I think it would be unfair to pull him from all his friends) it means a race between next contract and the point where savings are used to live off of. I want to be in a position to be "ahead" of that curve, and self-publishing may be the bridge that makes that possible. Most authors I know have "day jobs" and I feel fortunate that I don't require one. One of the reasons I write is I value freedom over all else and even the hint of a proposal to tell me when I can and can't write is certainly something to get the hairs on the back of my neck up.

2:43 AM

Blogger Borderlands Books said...

Hi Michael,

I'm glad we got that cleared up. I'm with you completely when it comes to valuing freedom. There's a very good reason I run my own business, rather than working for someone else. And, like all small business owners, it get's me pretty heated when I think that someone is telling me I can run my business the way I choose. But, since no business exists in a vacuum, I have to accept that my suppliers and customers will place some demands on me if I'm going to work with them. Sometimes those demands are too great and I choose not to deal with that vendor or customer. But its all an individual choice.

Regards,
Alan

12:49 PM