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"Royals Today: The Starters."

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Anonymous Anonymous said...

If Greinke is smart, who is dumb? Is the base line for this sort of judgement Manny Ramirez?

I used to believe Greinke was smart, but (like the rest of us, I think) I was basing this off of his pitching ability and on the assumption that his interviews were more or less a gag.

Well, it's been four years now, and Greinke has matured from a "crafty" wiz kid into a power pitcher with great control. I don't think he's really fooling hitters so much anymore as he is simply beating them with quality pitches.

As far as the interviews go, if Greinke really was brilliant, you'd think he would accidentally state something eloquently once or twice in four years' time.

And I could be wrong: the man could be a socially uncomfortable diabolical genius; I just think something other than a great fastball needs to be presented as evidence.

July 17, 2008 at 3:30 AM

Anonymous Anonymous said...

It's hard to count on Ben Sheets for 220 innings even though he's done it in the past. He's Hardenesque. Please don't compare Greinke to Sheets!

July 17, 2008 at 8:45 AM

Anonymous Anonymous said...

p.s. this is a GREAT blog Rany!

July 17, 2008 at 8:47 AM

Blogger RoyalPrick said...

Does Greinke have a nickname yet?

Was "The Savant" in the mix?

July 17, 2008 at 8:50 AM

Anonymous Anonymous said...

Pasty? Really? I've never seen a picture of you, Rany, but I always expected that you had a dark, Middle-Eastern type of complexion.

You seem down on Davies, but one thing you can say about him that is true of no one but Brian Bannister - he has already earned us back what we paid for him. Meche still needs to give us 3 more $11M worthy years, Luke might not have been worth the only #1 draft pick in Royals history, and the five-year Greinke odyssey has has so many ups and downs, who knows where it's going next. Davies, at least, only cost us two months' service of a closer who was not as good as Joakim Soria, I think he's given us more benefit than that.

And, I might add, there's always the slim chance Ambiorix Burgos can still make something of himself. Whereas no matter what, Dotel, the closer we didn't really need, was only ours for two months.

July 17, 2008 at 10:12 AM

Anonymous Anonymous said...

And, I should add, he got injured almost immediately after he was traded.

July 17, 2008 at 10:15 AM

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July 17, 2008 at 10:22 AM

Blogger Shelby said...

To see a prime representation of Zack Greinke, the soft-spoken lawn-care specialist, watch Casey Affleck in "Drowning Mona"


My fear is that Moore sees Zack as a prime representation of his "pitching is the currency of baseball" philosophy and decides to get 3 prospects for him. This is the type of guy you want to acquire and then keep on your team; the type of guy for whom you want to trade.

I hope Moore knows when to stop tinkering and let his GM-ing play itself out.

July 17, 2008 at 10:25 AM

Anonymous Anonymous said...

Rany, wouldn't the sizable drop in Meche's groundball rate (from 46.8% to 39.1%) indicate a change in performance, especially where it has led to a sizable increase in line drives allowed (from 17.8% to 22.7%)?

July 17, 2008 at 12:42 PM

Blogger djclung said...

unrelated to the article about pitchers but has anyone looked at ryan shealy lately???? hitting .300 with 14 hr's why isn't he starting at 1st right now, lets try to get something from the affelt trade!

July 17, 2008 at 2:45 PM

Anonymous Anonymous said...

The royals future lies with grienke and hochevar. bannister will be nothing but an average pitcher, and meche much the same. if only the royals had another pitcher with 4 above average pitches, great poise, and a nifty nickname in the organization? perhaps a player that works a different, less useful current role? Maybe this player could be from our neighbor to the south?

July 17, 2008 at 3:58 PM

Anonymous Anonymous said...

Rany -

Can you weigh in or the "trade, or not to trade" debate concerning Greinke? Curious to hear your thoughts on that (mine are concise: "no").

Thanks for providing me some quality diversions from work too! :)

July 17, 2008 at 4:02 PM

Blogger Nathan Hall said...

I agree with djclung that we should promote a minor league firstbaseman and see what he can do. I'm just not sure it should be the 28-yr-old Shealy, who is having a good year in AAA, or 24-yr-old Kila Kaaihue, who is hitting .304/.453/.609 with 23 HRs in Arkansas. Kaaihue hasn't hit lefties yet, but I think he at least deserves to be part of the discussion when trying to fill the void at 1B and field a competitive team next year.

Speaking of which, I wouldn't be surprised to see the Royals sign a free agent bat rather than trading for one. We know they're still willing to spend money, because they tried to sign Andrew Jones and Tori Hunter last off season, and money wasn't the reason they failed to do so. Mark Teixeira would be a fantastic fit, if one of Shealy or Kaaihue doesn't show enough this year to earn the job. Also, Orlando Hudson is one of the ten or so people in the world who might be a defensive upgrade over Grudzielanek at 2nd, and he can hit too. My dream Royals linup for next year features both those players, which I think would make this a really good team. Moore seems capable of making that kind of splash, and that's one reason to be excited about 2009.

I agree that signing Grienke should be a higher priority, though, of course.

July 17, 2008 at 4:08 PM

Anonymous Anonymous said...

Teixeira! Wow, that would be great. And, there's no if about it. There is nobody in the organization that is capable of making us question inserting him at 1B if it were able to happen.

July 17, 2008 at 4:32 PM

Anonymous Anonymous said...

Teixeira would be a perfect fit on any team. I cannot see the Royals paying the 18-19 million a year he will probably get. I think the Mets and Yankees will both be looking to sign him. Maybe next year we will see the .280-.290 20/20 Alex Gordon? Obviously, that won't be a panacea but it would sure help.

July 17, 2008 at 4:36 PM

Anonymous Anonymous said...

Off topic, as well, but since some discussion about potential free agents seems to have found its way to these comments about Rany's post on Royals' pitching, I'd like to attempt to make a case for Adam Dunn. Here's why:

He's in his eighth season in Cincinnati, with a career line of .247/.381/.521, so he hits for power and draws walks. With 26 home runs at the break, Dunn is 14 shy of recording his fifth-straight 40+ home run campaign, and he has drawn more than 100 walks in five of his previous seven seasons with the Reds (and he currently has drawn 69). Sure, he strikes out a ton, averaging 1.12 Ks per game over the span of his career, but his offensive punch would really bolster the middle of the Royals' lineup.

He could play either left field -- with DeJesus in center, and Guillen or Teahen in right -- or first base.

This past offseason, as far as I know, I was one of the first fans to really trumpet the potential free agent signing of Torii Hunter.

This year, I would love to see KC make a serious bid for the services of Adam Dunn. I agree that Teixeira will likely end up wearing pinstripes, and Dunn is the guy to go after with an attractive offer.

Go, Royals! Thanks, Rany...

July 17, 2008 at 8:20 PM

Anonymous Anonymous said...

Rany,
good post, not sure if anyone noticed, but you forgot about Joey in the bats section. Was that on purpose??

July 17, 2008 at 9:03 PM

Blogger Nathan Hall said...

By the way, great post on the Royals starters, Rany. I bet the reason a lot of the comments don't have a lot to say about them is that we all agree with you. Zack is an ace whose reputation hasn't quite caught up with his performance yet, so now is the time to sign him up long term; Hochevar and Meche can contribute to the rotation of a good team; like most teams, the 4-5 spots are more about hope than performance at this point. I'd really like to know, however, what you think of eventually moving Soria to the rotation.

July 18, 2008 at 4:44 AM

Blogger Shelby said...

Re: Adam Dunn

Might his strikeouts go up and walks down facing AL pitching? Honest question.

July 18, 2008 at 8:09 AM

Anonymous Anonymous said...

I would suggest that "Eliot Ness" be Zack Greinke's nickname. If the name hasn't been suggested already.

I was listening to a Royals broadcast a few weeks ago that suggested that only 4 Royals pitchers have made it through a game with 10 strikeouts and no walks (assuming I heard that correctly). In any case, the broadcaster noted that all 4 of these pitchers, Greinke included, last names began with the letter 'G'. Which led to commentators to refer to the group as 'G-Men'.

As I am sure everyone knows, G-Men often times refers to goverment agents, like the FBI. The most famous G-Man that I can think of is 'Eliot Ness', who had the added benefit of being 'Untouchable'. I think it fits perfectly for Zack Greinke.

July 18, 2008 at 8:27 AM

Anonymous Anonymous said...

Along came Wild Billy and his friend G-Man duded up for Saturday night!

July 18, 2008 at 10:16 AM

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