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"Prospect Rundown, Part 5."

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Blogger Unknown said...

Thanks for these "Prospect Rundown"s! I have referred readers of other sites I frequent to these blog posts. I am excited and want them to get on board as well!

Many of GMDM's Major League moves have been questionable as has his Managerial hire. However, his rebuilding of the farm system... by hiring (high-)quality front office staff... spending over-slot... letting the kids advance to the level of thier ability... convincing Mr. Glass to spend... adding another farm team... and spending on the International Market... all must be applauded. It must in fact be "the Process"!

I hope we have ANOTHER excellent draft to make it three years running. Further, I hope we add even MORE pitching as it is the "currency of baseball"!

Go GMDM!!! Go Royals!!! C-ya, AusSteveW

March 22, 2010 at 7:35 PM

Anonymous Anonymous said...

This made me really optimistic about the future of the Royals on a day when I was feeling particularly pessimistic. Thanks for the overview of all these improvements to the farm system. It's always good to hear the things they're doing well.

Also, I didn't know that about Esposito. I'm getting my PhD at Vandy right now and have watched him play all season. He's definitely got skills, though it'll take a lot more development for him to even get to AAA level. That just adds another element to watch.

March 22, 2010 at 7:52 PM

Anonymous Mitch said...

Never heard of Roscoe Cosby. Will have to look him up.

Don't let anyone get you down, Rany. I love the long posts. Gives me something to do in the morning before I have to get to work. Keep on trucking. Hope to read more from you this year.

Hope springs.

March 22, 2010 at 8:32 PM

Blogger ChasingMoney said...

Which of course means that I’m the guy who needed to split an article about Tim Freaking Melville into two parts

Which makes you more awesome in my opinion. Melville is my favorite Royals prospect and it really does seem like he's the forgotten man lately, which I suppose is a great thing because it means KC has some serious talent on the way.

March 22, 2010 at 8:34 PM

Anonymous Royalpug said...

I kinda hate to be a bit of a downer, especially since I think the farm system is certainly the biggest bright spot for this organization.
But I'd like to point something out.

None of "Dayton's" prospects have reached the MLB level.

The Atlanta Braves did not develop a single good pitcher during his entire stint as their director of minor league development.

I love the farm system. I'll love it more once it actually starts putting out players

March 22, 2010 at 9:20 PM

Blogger tools of ignorance said...

why the star can't seem to manage to give a decent break-down of the minors and a gainfully employed dermitoligist can (not a word all winter & barely 1000 words during ST for a small market team is unforgivable), i'll never figure out...

that being said, post it all my brotha! don't be shy, you can't scare us, we're kc royals fans. i do like that you are focusing your talents on the kids below the line and not killing yourself on ML rosters seemingly built to finish low and stock the minors. keep up the good work!!

March 22, 2010 at 10:17 PM

Anonymous Matt said...

the longer the posts the better, your analysis is invaluable. it's heartening that someone who loves baseball as much as you is a long suffering Royals fan as well. I haven't commented in a few dozen posts but I'm always reading. keep writing Rany

March 22, 2010 at 10:25 PM

Anonymous Anonymous said...

I'm always excited when I see a new post. Thanks.

March 23, 2010 at 5:32 AM

Anonymous Anonymous said...

Funny you should mantion Bo Jackson in your last paragraph, because I was thinking he is an exception to an earlier statement of yours - that the Royals "NEVER" drafted a great talent who fell to later rounds due to signability concerns. Bo, of course, was considered unsignable by other teams due to the likelihood of his going to the NFL, so he fell to the 4th round, and the Royals got him.

March 23, 2010 at 8:20 AM

Anonymous Anonymous said...

"The Atlanta Braves did not develop a single good pitcher during his entire stint as their director of minor league development."

Pitchers the Braves drafted that worked out while DM was there...

1996-Jason Marquis-Supplemental 1st
2000-Adam Wainwright-1st round
2000-Zach Minor-4th round
2005-Joey Devine-1st round
2005-Tommy Hanson-22nd round

If you include the 2006 draft, which he was involved in preparing for until the Royals hired him..

Kris Medlin-10th round (made his major league debut last year)

Probably not the best track record, but it's a long stretch to say they didn't develop ANY decent pitchers during his tenure. Especially seeing as he drafted their current stud Tommy Hanson.

March 23, 2010 at 8:36 AM

Blogger Skorpad said...

The Roscoe Crosby story could be Hollywood movie with an sad ending (to this point)...it was a sad turn of multiple events in his life with still lots of questions on what exactly happened.

March 23, 2010 at 12:05 PM

Anonymous Ron in NM said...

Keep them coming Rany. the other thing drafting better talent and signing them is it changes the dynamics and culture of the organization. The other players now have to push harder to become one of the 'studs' on a team. the hope is that keeps pushing higher in the organization to the big club. Steel sharpens steel.

March 23, 2010 at 1:33 PM

Blogger Unknown said...

I think I would be pretty happy if the Royals minor league system yielded a Tommy Hanson and Adam Wainwright over a 6 year period, especially considering over the last 6 years we only have Zack Greinke (which is great...and I will not count Hochevar before he actually shows he can be a consistent MLB pitcher, which I highly doubt to this point).

March 23, 2010 at 1:58 PM

Anonymous Anonymous said...

Very happy to read these Rany. I live in Springfield, home of the Double A Cardinals... NW Arkansas plays here 12-16 times this year. I'll watch with interest how these players develop. Thanks again.

March 23, 2010 at 2:26 PM

Anonymous Royalpug said...

The problem anonymous and Eric with the pitchers you mentioned is that NONE of them acheived much success with Atlanta. In fact ALL of them had almost instant success they moment they LEFT.
The only pitcher listed who has had any success for Atlanta was Hanson, who mind you was only drafted by Dayton Moore, not developed in the slightest.

Heres a breakdown to prove my point.

Jason Marquis: 300 MLB IP with ATL- ~5.00 ERA; leaves ATL, next two years with STL 400 IP sub 4.00 ERA.

Wainwright: career 3.8 ERA in the minors, mostly with ATL. career 3.17 ERA in the majors, all with STL.

Joey Devine:Manages to post a ~6.00 ERA over three years with ATL in 25 games. Traded to Oakland and puts up an incredible .59 ERA in 40 games.

Zach Miner: started strong, got WORSE as he progressed through the system. traded to Detroit and lowers his ERA by 2 full points.

The most telling thing is that these are the best pitchers to come through ATL's system in years and yet not a single one helped ATL in anyway.

March 23, 2010 at 3:37 PM

Anonymous Anonymous said...

Rany-

Love the info. Keep it coming, and don't apologize for putting out too many words. It's all very good reading.

Law of average says that a few of these guys should bust through this year. I am hoping it happens.

Maybe you could fill us in on more of what Arbuckle's role is and how much he factors into the success of what is happening. Only an idea.

If Arbuckle is a big reason for this success then Moore needs to be applauded for bringing him on.

I hope the major league team can win some this year, but I just read Hillman's quotes in the Star and I have to just shake my head. I like Hillman as a person, but he is out there sometimes. Oh well. As an earlier post said, "Hope springs."

March 23, 2010 at 6:25 PM

Anonymous Anonymous said...

Rany I too have bumped fellow closet Royals fans to your articles.... Please feel free to write using as many words at your pleasure.

March 23, 2010 at 9:27 PM

Anonymous Anonymous said...

Royalpug-

Didn't help the Braves at all??

Wainwright and Marquis brought them JD Drew and Eli Marrero (Drew had his best year in his one season in ATL, and Marrero had a pretty good season too) I do grant you that's not near enough return to give up those two pitchers, but they did bring something.

Devine brought them Mark Kotsay, who had a decent half season before they traded him for a prospect. Again, not enough return, but we are talking about a relief pitcher here.

And in true irony, Zach Miner was traded for Kyle Farnsworth. BUT, this was still when Farnsworth had some value, and he posted a 1.98 ERA in one season with ATL.

Point is, those players still helped ATL even with their departures by the players they brought back in return.

And honestly, how much credit/blame can you give the GM for the development of any players? He's not the one coaching them. And in Atlanta, he wasn't even the one in charge of hiring those coaches who did!

You are really grasping at straws here in trying to slam Dayton. I mean seriously, doesn't the guy give you enough fodder that you don't have to stoop to making things up?? He's given you Jose Guillen, Jason Kendall, etc. But that's not enough, and now you have to go to things like this?? Geez man, get a life.

March 24, 2010 at 12:44 AM

Anonymous Chris said...

Rany,

I guess you may have to cross Duffy off of your list of top prospects. Apparently he is taking a leave from baseball as per 810. Hope its nothing serious for him, obviously, just disappointed that the Royals may be losing a good young player. Hopefully he can come back.

Sigh.

March 24, 2010 at 10:44 AM

Blogger tookee said...

Who was expecting the Duffy thing? The lack of info about it makes it seem less like a divinical conversion and more like a physical/mental issue. It's so rare to see a promising young pitcher like Duffy walk away. At this rate, the Royals will need every one of their good young arms. Keep the posts coming, Rany. I'm thrilled that you've got something to say.

March 25, 2010 at 12:37 AM

Anonymous Yoop said...

How does "The Process" plan for the loss of Danny Duffy so unexpectedly?

March 25, 2010 at 10:25 AM

Anonymous Anonymous said...

WTF, Duffy?! Jesus, can't we get away from the black cloud hanging over our heads? Do the Royals every get to catch a break?

It has to be something unexpected. If the Royals had an inkling, they would have tried to trade him before he went all Zack Greinke on us.

March 25, 2010 at 12:10 PM

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