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"Meche Is A Mensch."

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Blogger Unknown said...

I'd love to see the $12M put aside, in a little lock box, let it gain some interest, use that money to get some of the minor leauge studs signed to long term, Longoria/Butler like deals.

January 22, 2011 at 6:28 PM

Blogger Unknown said...

Yu Darvish...my thoughts, exactly.

January 22, 2011 at 6:48 PM

Blogger Unknown said...

What I don't understand is why guys like Meche, Kendall, etc., don't get an MRI, even if on their own dime, just in case. I understand that you have to deal with some pain in a season of 162 games but you also need to be sure you'll make it through those 162, don't you?

January 22, 2011 at 6:51 PM

Blogger dfrench23 said...

Buzz says it wasn't one specific game in this "Royals Corner" interview from 2007.

http://royals.scout.com/2/633993.html


RC: 1976 is obviously a bad memory for you, as you were diagnosed with a torn rotator cuff after just 13 games and underwent experimental surgery. Was it in the game against California in 1975 where you went 12 innings when the pain first happened, or do you not remember the specific moment?

SB: It wasn’t a specific game. The game in 1975 that I pitched against the Angels wasn’t when it happened. The next start against the Rangers here in Texas four days later was when I first noticed something that was a little bit different feeling. I just didn’t have quite as much strength, and from there on, the middle of 1975 and on, it just got worse and worse until I couldn’t throw in the middle of 1976.

January 22, 2011 at 11:19 PM

Blogger John said...

Meche is cutting the Royals a huge break that they don't deserve. But I have a strong suspicion that he's got a disability insurance policy that's going to pay him a lot more than what he's giving back to Dayton Moore. Before the Royals messed up his arm, he was well on his way to being able to sign another enormous contract after 2011.

He probably just figured that he was going to get paid anyway, so he'd give the Royals a break.

January 23, 2011 at 12:07 AM

Blogger Mark said...

Hey Rany? Don't worry about being a few cycles behind. Rest up, get well, and come back when you are ready. We can wait. Good posts are worth waiting for.

January 23, 2011 at 3:01 AM

Blogger Nathan said...

I'm not sure this makes Meche a Mensch. Now, legitimately taking Glass' money and giving it to orphans might have done the trick...

I think going after Pujols would be an interesting idea, if the Royals think Eric Hosmer could handle the OF, or be included in a trade. I think Billy Butler is the next Joey Votto, so I'd be sad to see him traded away.

January 23, 2011 at 5:46 AM

Blogger Unknown said...

Most articles on this topic that I have seen have the authors saying they can't find the word to describe what Meche has done. I think Mensch is a great word to describe this.

Meche has earned the respect of everyone in baseball including those who didn't like him due to the big contract he signed in 07. He deserves it. It's up to the Royals to spend the money intelligently now.

Signing Billy long term is a good first step. GMDM is actually starting to look like he knows what he's doing finally. I hope it continues.

January 23, 2011 at 9:42 AM

Blogger Benjamin said...

I can see the headline: "Meche Mensch, Makes Mitzvah with Moore's Moolah.

January 23, 2011 at 9:49 AM

Blogger Phil said...

$12 million in free cash.

How much is the Dominican half of Hispanola worth? You could even throw in Haiti for a few bucks I'm sure.

Or perhaps we could get in on some of that Facebook equity.

Just spend it on anything except FAs.

January 23, 2011 at 3:01 PM

Blogger Unknown said...

I wouldn't say this is unprecedented exactly. The circumstances were not exactly the same, but Keith Foulke signed a one-year $5 million contract with the Indians in January of 2007 and then retired a month later. He had no obligation to do so, but gave up the entire $5 million.

January 24, 2011 at 12:26 AM

Blogger kcghost said...

You have to give Meche his props on retiring. The guy went to the hill every time he was able and pitched his heart out.

Hopefully the Royals can use the $12M to acquire some good young talent. This is a tough year to draft since the Rays practically own every pick. Maybe they can find some good international talent.

January 24, 2011 at 8:44 AM

Anonymous Anonymous said...

Do you mean Howser's mistake in not bringing in Quisenberry in the 9th inning of Game 2 of the 1985 World Series? Because having recently watched my new 1985 World Series DVD set, I'd say that's where Quiz would have made a difference, not Game 1.

January 24, 2011 at 9:46 AM

Blogger mark said...

"Gil Meche is a better man than I. He’s a better man than you. There’s no way that you or I would walk away from 12 million dollars that we were entitled to."

Please Rany, type for yourself and not all possible readers of your blog. It would have been shameful and stupid to cash 12 million dollars worth of checks if his heart wasn't in it. People walk away from money all the time. Hit movies that don't have sequels(It happens!), actors on TV shows and of more revelants, Andrew Luck. I know insurance policies blah, blah, blah. It is hard to believe that the best financial decision would have been to not go pro in his case. The bottom line, if 25 million isn't going to buy you happiness, 30 or 35 million probably wont either.

January 24, 2011 at 9:49 AM

Blogger Unknown said...

If the Royals are able to sign Yu Darvish with Meche's money, they should retire Meche's number and put him in the Royal's Hall of Fame. He will have been just as valuable as George Brett.

January 24, 2011 at 11:06 AM

Blogger KHAZAD said...

In the game after the described 121 pitch start, It was again talked about Meche skipping a turn. Instead, they let him start, sent him out for the 6th again, (after throwing 88 pitches through 5 and battling despite clearly having nothing) and let him throw 26 pitches to get to 114, removing him only after a 4 pitch walk in which all 4 were lobbed in. (Last 3 batters HR, BB, BB)

In response to dfrench23- Busby says the start after the 12 inning game is when he first noticed a difference. Not surprising, considering he had thrown 5 complete games and 48 innings in 18 days. The last one being 12 innings and facing 50 batters. (Even at a very conservative 3.5 pitches per batter that is 175 pitches and Busby usually had alot of deep counts, so probably more)

Meche deserve much credit for the class of this move.

January 24, 2011 at 1:23 PM

Blogger KMartin said...

I wouldn't be suprised to learn that, underneath it all, Meche knew Hillman was a ditz and wouldn't bench him. He knew if he lied about his condition that Hillman wouldn't tell him no. He'd give him the ball. He took advantage of Hillman and Trey got most if not all of the blame for 'ending Meche's career'. So he gives the money back, not because he's a stand up guy, but to ease his own guilt.

January 24, 2011 at 2:19 PM

Blogger Jabo The Conqueror said...

Why does everyone keep calling this move unprecedented, when Ryne Sandberg did the exact same thing when he was the second highest paid player in baseball?!? In fact, even though it was more the 15 years ago, he gave up more cash (unadjusted) then Meche did.

January 24, 2011 at 6:04 PM

Blogger Rany said...

Jabo,

If memory serves, Sandberg retired the first time at least in part because of some serious family issues at the time - he had recently gotten divorced, he wanted to spend more time with his kids (I think he might have remarried), etc. The exact details were never made public, so I don't know exactly how serious those issues were.

And Chaim: yeah, I meant Game 2. Leibrandt has a 2-0 lead going to the ninth, inning starts Double, Groundout, Flyout, Single (Run scores). It's 2-1 with tying run at first. Landrum then doubles, Jack Clark scoots to third. Howser intentionally walks Cesar Cedeno and leaves Leibrandt in to pitch to Terry Pendleton. Madness. Pendleton hits a bases-clearing double.

If this had happened today, it would be Grady Little to the nth power. In the 1980s, you could still make the argument for the starting pitcher, I guess. But if the Royals hadn't came back to win the Series, that game would live in KC infamy.

January 24, 2011 at 7:07 PM

Blogger Benjamin said...

Aren't "Charlie Liebrandt" and "infamy" synonyms?

January 24, 2011 at 10:25 PM

Blogger Jabo The Conqueror said...

Rany,
When Sandberg retired he was still married and, if you are to believe what he says, he thought his marriage was fine. His main reason for quitting (at least according to him) was that he just wasn't the same player that signed the huge contract after a few injuries.

Even if you assume that the main reason he quit was to try and save his marriage, I still don't see how it's really all that different. One guy quits because he doesn't think he will be affective due to injuries and another guy quits because he doesn't think he would be effective due to family problems.

January 25, 2011 at 7:04 PM

Blogger 5brett390 said...

This is a GREAT site for Royal fans...I have been one since year #1,1969...Look forward to keeping up with it....But one thing I feel different about....Not just looking forward to 2012....I think VERY GOOD things are gonna happen this year...2011!!

February 21, 2011 at 5:50 PM

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