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"Royals Report Card, 2010: Part One."

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Anonymous Anonymous said...

First.

In before the lovefest for the GM who averages losing 90+ games per season.

October 12, 2010 at 12:32 AM

Anonymous Deep Dixie Blue said...

"In my world, hitting .297/.378/.511 earns you an everyday job, but the Royals operate in their own world. We’ll see what happens."

I concur and am surprised that this comment from Yost about moving Aviles to 3B and Betemit to the bench in order to play Getz at 2B hasn't generated more angst.

It's not like Getz is Dysonian in the field. The offensive value KC loses from Betemit to Getz is much greater than the defensive value they gain.

I'm hoping this (public) comment from Yost was designed to motivate Wilson B to get in shape over the winter and to come to camp more focused on playing defense. He clearly looked disinterested in participating in this facet of the game.

I'm fine with playing Dyson in CF for his great defense and batting him ninth, but not sure I can handle he and Getz back-to-back at 8-9. If Getz played SS, and was a Everett-type wizard then maybe. But such is not the case.

October 12, 2010 at 6:51 AM

Anonymous Anonymous said...

Umm, to get picks wouldn't Betemit have to turn down aribitration? That seems far from certain at this point.

October 12, 2010 at 7:41 AM

Anonymous Anonymous said...

While I can certainly find faults with Yost, I think for the most part he gets it.

I agree with the sentiments of Dixie in that Getz' defense isn't that great and his offense is very bad. If Betemit could even play a marginal second or third he would be pretty valuable, but he did seem disinterested and I would think that Yost's comments were meant to motivate rather than as a set plan.

I think Yost is also trying to speak to the pitching staff and let them know that he wants to back them up with at least a passable defensive team. That is why there is talk of Dyson and Getz getting more playing time.

I don't know. I am a Royals fan and so I am a sucker, but I am marginally optimistic about this season. Everyone is writing this season completely off but I can see some good things even if Moustakas and Hosmer are a year away.

If Hochevar, Kila, Gordon all take steps forward I can see them being a .500 team. From there it just takes a couple of breaks to make the playoffs.

We shall see, but I like this team a lot more than I liked the team heading into 2008 or 2009 and there were a lot of people picking those teams for the playoffs.

October 12, 2010 at 9:40 AM

Anonymous Fast Eddie said...

I doubt that Getz will ever help the team.

That will open up a trade for Brooks Conrad, in all likelihood. Bring in Francoeur, also.

October 12, 2010 at 9:56 AM

Anonymous Chance said...

Bryan,

Who the Hell picked the 2008 or 2009 Royals for the playoffs? Your crack dealer?

Or did I misunderstand your statement?

Rany, thanks for the grades - I did enjoy Whitlock's Chiefs grades and I trust you more than I ever did him.

I can't wait to see Kendall's grade. I expect it to be like that scene from Animal House where Dean Wormer tells the Deltas that they are on probation: "Kendall, you have no grade. We have no record of you ever attending a class at Royals College."

October 12, 2010 at 10:02 AM

Anonymous Anonymous said...

Whitlock>Rany.....and not even close. Although they both switch sides to whichever direction the wind blows.

I'm sure Kendall gets a C+ from Rany. Even though he slugged less than .300 and barely scraps out a .300 OBP. And Dayton is just fine with that because he is a gritty vet whose vast experience as a winner with teams like the Pirates enable him to hone our young pitchers into the 13th best staff in the AL.

And you guys wonder why a guy like Dyson can't play everyday. Dyson, Kendall and Yuni-3 guys who make outs over 70% of the time. How can any lineup deal with 3 black holes like that. It's like playing 6 guys vs the other teams 9.

Great team Dayton has assembled. I'm sure Rany gives him an A. Even though he still hasn't came close to putting an acceptable product on the field, in more time than it takes the average college student to graduate.

October 12, 2010 at 10:58 AM

Blogger Brett said...

@Chance - To defend Bryan, I believe the Royals were actually a popular sleeper pick to be a contender in 2009. They were coming off of an improvement to 75 wins the previous season, and everyone was looking for "who is this year's Tampa Bay Rays". Given a relatively weak AL Central, a lot of people thought the Royals could hang in the race. I specifically remember Bill Simmons (The Sports Guy) being hot on the Royals. Another example from NBC Sports.

October 12, 2010 at 11:28 AM

Anonymous Anonymous said...

Yuniesky had a WAR of 0.6 not 1.3 according to Fangraphs.

October 12, 2010 at 11:47 AM

Blogger Rany said...

Yes, Fangraphs and Baseball-Reference come up with different values for WAR, which as I understand is because they use different defensive formulas.

Which is fine, but the fact that they both insist on calling their stat by the exact same name is sadly ridiculous, and helps to perpetuate every stereotype of statistical analysts being completely tone-deaf to real-world concerns.

October 12, 2010 at 11:55 AM

Anonymous Anonymous said...

On Mike Aviles:

In early September, I recall Ned Yost making a very public statement, something to the effect of "every active player needs to step it up if he wants to be a part of what's coming in the next two seasons."

I'm sure somebody can corroborate the exact dates, but I distinctly remember Aviles' surge at the plate beginning within a couple days of Yost's comment. I'm convinced that Mike's decision to let it fly at the plate wasn't necessarily a decision based purely upon health and pain threshold. He clearly saw the writing on the wall, and knew he had to "swing hard" again if he wanted to keep his job - even if it risked re-injury.

I think the subsequent three weeks of terrorizing AL pitchers tells us great things about Mike ... he's a "character" guy, a hard worker, and should definitely be part of the future. It also gives Aviles great confidence that he can keep producing with minimal fear of complications with the elbow.


On Kila Ka'aihue:

I'll eschew the temptation to embark upon a lenghty diatribe about the sudden marriage of "BABIP" and "luck." Suddenly, it seems as soon as one of those terms is used, the other is quick to follow. Sad, sad.
Anyway, for those who actually WATCHED Kila's at-bats in July and August, it's obvious that his low BABIP was his own doing ... not some sort of walked-under-a-ladder-on-the-way-to-work induction of "bad luck." He was consistently hitting the ball off the end of the bat - although his timing was routinely good, he simply wasn't generating power, and needed to make one or more adjustments. September's improvement was not attributable to his throwing out the black cat with the bathwater. Whether he moved slightly closer to the plate, extended his arms a bit more or whatever - he was clearly getting the sweet spot of the bat on the ball more consistently, and the results followed suit.

October 12, 2010 at 12:07 PM

Anonymous Anonymous said...

Stats can't measure grit.

-Dayton

October 12, 2010 at 12:25 PM

Anonymous Anonymous said...

So when comparing war for Yuni, Rany picks the higher number in order to make his point seem more valid in defending him. Classic.

October 12, 2010 at 12:28 PM

Blogger Rany said...

No, I use Baseball-Reference because I always use Baseball-Reference for looking up baseball statistics, unless it's something unique to Fangraphs like their pitch velocities or something. I didn't even know what Yuni's Fangraphs WAR was.

But by all means, feel free to keep attributing motives to me that I don't have.

October 12, 2010 at 12:59 PM

Blogger Kyle said...

I am still very confused why the Royals feel they need Getz at 2B. I did like his defense for the little bit of time he was there, but he is horrible at the plate. You really cannot have Yuni, Getz, and Dyson/Blanco/Maier in the lineup with less than .300 OBP.

Why is Aviles not getting a chance to win his job back at SS? He played a pretty good SS in 2008, right? Betemit/Fields 3B, Aviles SS, Getz 2B, Butler/Kila 1B to start the season isn't awful, is it?

I would really have like to seen Betemit or Fields in the outfield, but I just don't think they have it in them. An outfield of Gordon, DDJ, Betemit/Fields would probably okay, right?

October 12, 2010 at 1:47 PM

Anonymous Chance said...

Sorry, Bryan, you were right and I was wrong.

Kyle: "An outfield of Gordon, DDJ, Betemit/Fields would probably okay, right?"

I don't think so. I have no faith in Gordon to do anything. I would rather have Dyson hitting .250 with no power (or whatever his ops is)than Gordon hitting .250 with no power (or whatever his ops is). At least Dyson is fast. Why can't Gordon be our super utility type? At this point isn't he about as valuable as Bloomquist, but with a small upside?

October 12, 2010 at 4:02 PM

Anonymous Anonymous said...

I like your work. It has an appropriate dose of realism, while still maintaining that sense of fan optimism that makes continuing to watch a bad team play more palatable.

I have no interest in being the other anonymous antagonizing agents on here, but it would be interesting to compare the relative merits of the two versions of WAR at some point.

Regardless, we can say that Yuni was not entirely worthless this year, though not worth nearly as much as the Royals organization believe or that the "traditional" stat categories indicate. Bottom line: he is an above-average hitter for SS, but is so bad at the position that his bat is not so meaningful. Moving him to another position might increase his defensive metrics, but his bat (more like: batting eye) would look so bad that the change of position would likely end up not mattering much. But he is still not deserving of the "Worst Everyday Player in the MLB award this year" which, using this judgment scale, makes his season a slight surprise.

October 12, 2010 at 4:42 PM

Anonymous Anonymous said...

Grading a 67-95 team is pretty self-explanatory. But I guess we have to go through a couple of these seasons before the young guys come up.

This season was disheartening because even if every player exceeded expectations, the Royals were not going to the playoffs.

I just hope we get lucky and some of these young guys become All-Stars. Because if they don't, we are a long way off from competing. And I really do not want to wait through another rebuild.

October 12, 2010 at 5:18 PM

Blogger Reb Moti said...

Jason Anderson talks too much on the show. It's not "Jason and Rany on the Royals," and he should just be guiding you through the list of topics.

October 12, 2010 at 9:13 PM

Anonymous Anonymous said...

Grade yourself Rany. I give you an F-

October 13, 2010 at 1:13 AM

Anonymous Anonymous said...

I like how you are up at 1:13 on a Tuesday night, Anon. No doubt living in your parents' basement trying to pass the time while Nick at Night is on a commercial. Having already beat off three times since midnight, you have nothing better to do than to continuously visit this blog and call out Rany to satisfy your "little man" complex. Shall we grade your life?

October 13, 2010 at 7:59 AM

Anonymous Scott M said...

Rany,

I like the idea of grade card. I am not commenting even to nit-pick the grades that I find flabbergasting (like Betancourt's B). Rather I would like to make this suggestion.

In addition to your grade versus your preception, would you include a "true grade" based on how the player performed. This should be really easy to do. I know Baseball-Reference has a chart for how their WAR ratings equate out.

Continuing on with Betancourt as an example of what I mean. I just looked him up on BR. His war as you stated was 1.3. According to their chart, that makes him a reserve worthy player. I am sure you can incorporate that somehow.

October 13, 2010 at 1:41 PM

Blogger Michael said...

Next year, Yuni will be the second best shortstop on the roster. Getz will be the second best second baseman on the roster. But, both will be worse than Mike Aviles, who will be the best SS and 2B on the roster. So one of them probably has to start. Question is, which do you prefer? Personally, I prefer Getz, as his speed and defense are both well above Yuni's. Yuni gets the edge in power, but since he makes outs at least 70% of the time, it doesn't matter a whole lot. If Getz reverts back to his 2009 numbers (261/324/347), along with his defense and speed, I just think he'll be the better player over Yuni. In 2009, Getz was worth 1.5 WAR. Yuni, in a suprise year for him, was only 1.3.

Personally, I think Rany has been a much better read this year. Last year, I stopped reading because I was sick of the whining. I prefer reading things that put me in a good mood, not a bad or depressing one. I guess I'm just a generally more optimistic person than a pessimistic one.

October 13, 2010 at 3:04 PM

Blogger Unknown said...

I think Aviles is almost guaranteed a spot on next year's roster, which is why they are putting him at 3rd. He is simply going to keep it warm til Moustakas arrives. At that point, Getz or Yuni will be the odd man out at 2nd or SS and will be released or less likely traded to move Aviles into that position.

So Getz getz a few more months to show what he can do.

Then for 2012, Aviles, Yuniesky, Giavotella, and Colon will be auditioned for SS and 2B. My guess is at that point, Yuni will have a higher salary than the Royals will want to spend on a much cheaper Johnny G and Colon or Aviles.

October 13, 2010 at 3:44 PM

Blogger Karte said...

Jeff,

According to Cot's baseball contracts, Yuni has a $6M option for 2012, with a $2M buyout. I expect the Royals will purchase the buyout.

October 14, 2010 at 12:01 PM

Blogger Unknown said...

Jim,

I tend to agree, but what if Yuni puts up 20 homerun's next year 8 of which are grandslams :), walks 25 times, and his range improves half a step or he gets a glove with longer fingers with all that cash, could he force the Royals to keep him for 2012 over their other options?

What performance would Yuni have to do next year to keep him for $6M in 2012? - Rany, maybe an article here for you.

October 14, 2010 at 3:40 PM

Blogger John said...

"I can't wait to see Kendall's grade."

Probably a C+. He was expected to be bad, get a lot of playing time, and block Brayan Pena, an option with some upside. Mission accomplished!
ZiPS 420 AB, .252/.328/.319 73 OPS+
2010 434 AB, .256/.318/.297 71 OPS+

October 15, 2010 at 2:08 PM

Blogger Alex Remington said...

A few months ago, before the Braves traded Blanco to the Royals, I wrote this:

Going back to 2008, Gregor Blanco is probably my favorite bad player in the major leagues. He plays good defense but has a noodle arm; has a good batting eye but strikes out a ton; has decent speed but isn’t a great base stealer; and he probably doesn’t even have warning track power. But he’s a classic pesky hitter who always looks like he’s trying hard on both sides of the ball, and there are few things more fun than watching him work a pitcher for a 10-pitch walk.

He isn’t good, but he’s a useful bench player/5th outfielder, and I’m so happy to see him succeed to the best of his abilities.

October 17, 2010 at 9:06 PM

Blogger Tom B said...

Rany,

who do you that can get into Moore's head? I say the Royals need to play ball and offer Carl Crawford 6 yrs-120 million. Do that and maybe he'll consider it? Plus it would show Grienke they are committed to winning. If we can spend 11 million a year on Meche and 13 million of Guillen, a cool 20 million per should be easy for Crawford.

November 4, 2010 at 1:41 PM

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