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"Royals Today: 7/20/2008."

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Anonymous Anonymous said...

The Guillotine. Me likey.

July 20, 2008 at 9:47 PM

Blogger GTripp said...

It's easy to say from our perspective that Gordon should have hit in that situation, but I think it's critical to remember that he wasn't going to be facing a faceless RHP. He was facing Octavio Dotel, who a year ago today was a teammate of Alex Gordon.

Jose Guillen hadn't been used all series, and I think Hillman's reasoning might have been as simple as he thought Guillen was his best option to get something going in that inning. The perceived doghouse here might simply have been Trey Hillman not wanting to begin a critical inning with a Gordon strikeout.

After the game, I don't think he really had a defense for his decision. It was a statistically stupid move. But trailing by a run, I could understand why he wanted the two players on his roster who are most likely to homer to be the first two guys to bat in that inning.

Thus, if he didn't think Gordon could tie the game on a swing, he wasn't going to let him it. I really think it's that simple. And stupid. But mostly simple.

July 20, 2008 at 9:53 PM

Blogger KC Lone Star said...

In the wake of my stunning/barely deserved victory in the Obscure Royals Trivia contest I have decided it's a good time to leave my first comment here...well more of an award acceptance speech. I'd like to thank the Mexicutioner for being nasty, Rany for allowing everyone one mulligan, and Juan Gone for finally helping to win something for a Royals fan...better late than never.

-Brian

July 20, 2008 at 10:29 PM

Blogger Nathan said...

First off, that ball really does drop like a guillotine. Excellent word choice.

Second, I'm surprised you didn't talk much about Este. If nothing else, this game shows what letting German bat a few times will do. Three hits and a walk? That man can see the pitch before it's even thrown! He can see the future!!!

I hereby suggest The Oracle as a nickname for German.

July 20, 2008 at 11:56 PM

Blogger Nathan said...

Also acceptable would be "The Bones" or "The Magic Eightball."

July 20, 2008 at 11:58 PM

Anonymous Anonymous said...

Those pitches this afternoon from Soria were insane. "Guillotine" is a great choice, perfect.

July 21, 2008 at 12:50 AM

Blogger Unknown said...

As far as Bannister goes, his main problem is his almost total loss of control. Without that he has nothing.

The attempted steal of Gload was interesting because I still haven't forgiven Hillman for sending him to third earlier in the year.

My main question from all of this is how many times must DeJesus be picked off of first base before they give it a second thought? It's happened at least 4 times this year minimum. His success rate in stealing bases is horrible at best. When does it sink in that maybe they shouldn't be so concerned about stealing second and more concerned about not being picked off?

Another question is when does Hillman acquire some basic statistics and use them in a game? I am willing to forgive decisions that can be debated. The decisions that have been made by Hillman this year can't be. They have been so wrong that it is obvious that stats are never a part of any decision that he makes.

No matter how bad your team is on paper, you can always plays fundamental baseball, keep your head in the game, and expect your manager to use common sense. Those things take no talent and can be the difference in 5 wins or more depending on how fundamentally unsound and stupid you are. When it's as easy as keeping your head in the game, you would think the Royals would jump at the opportunity if it would save them a few wins. No?

July 21, 2008 at 2:14 AM

Blogger Matt S said...

OMG guillotine. Freaking awesome.

July 21, 2008 at 5:07 AM

Anonymous Anonymous said...

Maybe we should call the pitch the "Waterboard" - as its effect is to leave the hitters gasping for breath on the edge of dying -- its more of a torture device...that pitch.

July 21, 2008 at 6:44 AM

Blogger Unknown said...

Hillman pinch hitting Guillen for Gordon was one of the most mind-numbingly stupid decisions I have ever seen a manager make in a baseball game, ranking just behind numero uno: John Gibbons' decision to intentionally walk Tony Pena Jr. to get to David DeJesus.

July 21, 2008 at 9:01 AM

Blogger Owd Müller said...

I wonder if there is some history between Dotel and Guillen? Maybe Trey suspected that the AB would end in HBP and that's why he pinch hit for Gordo.

Only excuse I could come up with.

July 21, 2008 at 9:41 AM

Blogger RoyalPrick said...

I'm still upset that Brian said Juan Gone the round right before I was going to. I'm going to blame the loss on that.

Or to the fact that Desi Relaford wasn't obscure enough.

Now I have to buy a Mexicutioner T-shirt.

July 21, 2008 at 9:43 AM

Anonymous Anonymous said...

Sounds like everyone had a great time. I really would like to have gone except A) I hate the White Sux so much I refuse on principal to go into that stadium, and B)I went to a Cubs game earlier this year and the wife would have killed me for spending more money on another baseball trip (still trying to convert her to the sport).

I don't know what to think on Hillman anymore. I think on one hand that he's an upgrade over Buddy Bell, whom I despised almost as much as I despise Mark Davis. But on the other hand, it's like...dude, use some simple stats every now and then for crying out. loud. I'm no sabermetrician, but good grief, Charlie Brown.

I'm trying really hard to be more objective this year in judging the team. I was probably the world's biggest Teahen apologist until this year, for example. But I just can't decide on what to think about Hillman.

Oh, yeah - the Guillotine? That's freaking fantastic. Nice one, Rany. A buddy of mine posted in our fantasy league a term he proposes for the dictionary (since we're having fun with the "Mexicutioner" concept: "Mexicuted = swinging over a slow curveball."

July 21, 2008 at 9:47 AM

Anonymous Anonymous said...

Not to pile on about the Guillen pinch hit decision, but Rany, did you know Guillen was 1 for 8 with 6 Ks previously against Dotel? One of the most bizzare managerial decisions I've ever seen. In fact, it was so weird when I was watching it on TV, I automatically assumed Gordon got sick or something.

Speaking of TV, Ryan Lefebvre and Splitt have become nearly unwatchable. Finally, after YET ANOTHER awesome game from Aviles (how about the defensive play he made? WOW!), they FINALLY started to concede that perhaps Aviles has won the job from Pena. Good Lord. In other news, Ryan, the sun will rise in the East the rest of your days. Another thing that really peaved me was their practically GUSHING about the Royals running game, since they stole 3 bases for the 2nd day in a row. NARY A MENTION of getting caught stealing 3 times, and how much that may have cost the team. INCOMPETENCE.

July 21, 2008 at 10:08 AM

Anonymous Anonymous said...

I think it was Crede who hit the three-run shot off Banny, not Swisher.

July 21, 2008 at 10:28 AM

Anonymous Anonymous said...

I can imagine Silverio (or whoever the 3rd base coach is) thinking as he's signing the steal to Gload, "Why the heck are we sending him with two out and a guy on third? Whatever. You 'da boss, Trey".

Seems it would help if Hillman were instructed to bounce his wacky ideas off of a seasoned bench coach.

Reminds me of The Office episode where it was revealed that Pam fakes the transfer of incoming calls to Michael Scott the first time. The ratiionale being that Michael usually exorcises his unprofessional (over-the-top unfunny) greetings on the first try and subsequently comes up with a normal on when it really counts.

July 21, 2008 at 10:36 AM

Anonymous Anonymous said...

Woops. Should be "normal one" in the last sentence.

July 21, 2008 at 10:38 AM

Anonymous Anonymous said...

My wish list for the 2nd half:

Grudz (love him, but still) needs to be traded for whatever low-level prospect(s) Dayton can get from someone. German needs to start at 2B for the rest of the year, so you can confirm that he's got the bat he seems to (and maybe actually find a position for him). Plus, the Royals would then have one of the shortest and roundest middle infields in the majors. Awesome.

If you can also unload Gload (for anything up to and including a case of beer), do it. Call Shealy up to see what you've got before he wastes an entire year in AAA. Let he and Billy split the 1B/DH starts.

July 21, 2008 at 11:38 AM

Blogger Ron Rollins said...

Do we actually need more reasons after yesterday's game about why Hillmman has no clue what he is doing and needs to go.

This isn't a great team, but they do have some talent. They aren't posting a better record because Hillmnan is the manager. They're doing it because they have better players this year who are playing some good ball. Hillman is only going to cost the Royals games.

And for all of those who are going to kiss Hillman's ass, if it isn't his fault, then who's is it?
Who's making the decision on all these baserunning outs, or who's not pulling the player aside to talk to them, or work with them before games to make them better.

In the 1980 playoffs, a 97-win Royals team went out before a game and practiced cut-off throws from the outfield. In the game that day, Willie Wilson threw out Willie Randoplh out the plate with a text-book relay from U.L. Washington. George Steinbrenner was so mad he fired Mike Ferraro and Dick Howser.

That's what manager's do. Make their players execute. Not sit back and blame thier players for not executing.

Maybe Hillman needs to watch some old video of what it used to mean to be a Royal. Because he sure doesn't know.

July 21, 2008 at 1:37 PM

Blogger Unknown said...

Because of John Gibbons, Hillman will never be able to make the dumbest managerial decision of all time.

With pinch hitting Guillen, I have this weird opinion of it. It was obviously against the numbers pretty clearly. However, it isn't the same type of decision as sending a guy like Gload to third. I don't know why it doesn't bother me but it may just be because Hillman has done so many things that are beyond explanation that I have become numb to some things.

As Tom said, I have also thought about the idea of having a guy in the dugout with a computer who's only purpose is to make sure the best decisions are made or, more importantly, that the worst ones aren't made. I don't know why this isn't used more often as going on a hunch is probably going to result in a less than 50% success rate.

I just can't stop thinking about the fact that if you take out the blatant stupidity, you add 5 wins to our current record. Why do they insist on making things worse than they need to be.

July 21, 2008 at 2:29 PM

Blogger ksuim4u said...

Well, while we're on the topic of Major League 2 (the naming of pitches - which didn't work out so well for Rick Vaughn, by the way), perhaps what happened with Guillen pinch hitting for Gordon was along the same lines - "Hey Guillen, didn't this guy used to pitch you inside? Go up there and lean into one!... if you want to get in the game, go do it!" Of course, for another inexplicable reason (that also worked out for the best) Guillen was allowed to run for himself...

July 21, 2008 at 2:48 PM

Anonymous Anonymous said...

Any chance Olivo (or Buck) to the Yankees with Posada out for the year?

July 21, 2008 at 5:22 PM

Anonymous Anonymous said...

OK so lets cut Gobble and put TPJ in the pen.

July 21, 2008 at 10:31 PM

Anonymous Anonymous said...

Wow, Pena Jr. looked pretty good on the mound.
Dude had some movement on his pitches.

July 21, 2008 at 10:40 PM

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