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"Buyers."

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Blogger @edcfromkc said...

Awesome last line/paragraph....exactly how I feel

August 2, 2013 at 12:35 AM

Blogger John Duggan said...

Great write-up as always, Rany. I've been continually updating my Twitter feed the last couple of days hoping you would come around on your feelings about the trade so that I could permit myself to do the same. In the long run, knock-on-wood, I'm finally convinced it's a menial setback for a menial gain. Here's hoping Maxwell adopts the attitude of a reviatlized young team and not that of every player, coach, exec, and fan that's been with the franchise the previous 27 years.

One thing I wish you'd have commented on is Moore's perspective on this. It almost seems like he made a relatively trivial upgrade just so he can point back to this year when is job is on the line and at the very least tell his critics "See? I turned this team around and made them into buyers at the deadline!"

August 2, 2013 at 12:39 AM

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August 2, 2013 at 12:40 AM

Blogger Larry Herold said...

Wait a minute. You make your points clearly and thoughtfully. You back them up with facts. And you admit when you're wrong. Are you sure you belong on the internets?

I'm new to your work (and a new fan of the podcast) but this is great stuff. Thanks Rany.

August 2, 2013 at 12:46 AM

Blogger Kansas City said...

Rany is smart and always a good to great read, but how could he have expected the Royals would release Dyson or send Lough back to minors?

It was obvious the move was going to be Getz, Johnson or a reliever and, thankfully, it was Getz. Royals also could send relievers up and down I-29 to Omaha until 9/1 when rosters can be expanded.

August 2, 2013 at 12:57 AM

Blogger John said...

I'm in agreement. Lough is very likely to regress in August. The pivotal factor is whether Yost will aggressively platoon and especially pinch-hit. If so, Maxwell is a plus; if not, he's a wash.

Two other quick points: 1. Much of the Royals' success this year, such as it is, has been due to staying remarkably injury free, with only Dyson missing significant time. Knock on wood their luck holds--Gordon especially has been playing with near-frightening intensity of late, regularly hitting the ground on the basepaths and in the field 2. How profoundly odd that a key component of how the Royals do the rest of the way depends on whether Tejada(?!) thrives or wilts with playing everyday 3. Duffy has been outstanding in 4 of his last 5 starts. Probably time to bring him up. But who to send down?

August 2, 2013 at 7:12 AM

Blogger Michael said...

I don't understand the expectation of the Lough regression. Rany himself posted that in 4 years in AAA he was basically a .300 hitter, I know there will be some regression but that demonstrates he can hit.

August 2, 2013 at 7:33 AM

Blogger Unknown said...

I'm pretty indifferent to this trade. I was hoping the Royals could pull off the complicated trick of being buyers and sellers at the same time...maybe giving up Santana and/or Hoch, but getting a second baseman upgrade and bringing Duffy up for the rotation. I knew that was a pipedream. I'm still not sure I see the point of this move though. Against left handed pitchers you have Cain in center and bat Lough lower in the line-up. Against righties, you have a choice of alignment. I don't think the Royals were half a run out of the playoffs, and that might be all they improved by.

As far as what they gave up, I'm not an expert by any means, but I feel he falls somewhere between Brian Bannister on the low end and Jon Leiber on the high. Not a lot to give up, but Leiber was a legit #3 guy for a lot of years, and every team could use that.

I'm happy to have a winning team to cheer for. KC is a baseball town and winning will bring people out. Hopefully the added revenue will push Glass to reinvest some this winter. This doesn't seem to be your father's David Glass, so I really think there's a chance the Royals could be spenders. Hopefully, assuming Dayton is still the GM, they spend wisely.

August 2, 2013 at 8:18 AM

Blogger Nathan said...

The Royals may only have improved a little at the deadline, but how many teams get to add Danny Duffy to their rotation and Wade Davis to their bullpen?

August 2, 2013 at 9:50 AM

Blogger Steve N said...

The Royals biggest weakness seems to be 2b. I can't believe that they could have picked up Jamie Carroll on the cheap. Some on base, and solid fielder. Maybe I'm wrong.

August 2, 2013 at 10:03 AM

Blogger Robert said...

" I expect to feel disappointed when the season is over. But at least I expect to feel something."

I had lunch with a Tiger fan buddy yesterday. Conversation went like this...

Him: "You're not going to catch us."
Me: "No, but you DID feel the need to bring it up."

It's not likely to end well, but I haven't cared about an August baseball game in so long, that's not even the point.

August 2, 2013 at 10:41 AM

Blogger Kansas City said...

I think WAR and "runs" breaks down as a tool to assess something like the Maxwell trade. He will not have more than about 1.0 WAR, but putting him in the line-up against lefties and opening up some pinch hitting situations could be the difference in 3 to 5 games (I realize that is a random chance sort of deal) and put the Royals in the playoffs. It will depend on luck, but putting themselves in a position where Maxwell rather than Dyson is up against a tough lefty could determine one or more games. And the punch of Cain and Maxwell over Lough and Dyson in the line up against lefties could win some games.

August 2, 2013 at 12:19 PM

Blogger twm said...

Cain is not a thumper against lefties. This season he is hitting 229/318/371 against them. For his career he has hit 261/327/353 (close to his career line against righties: 276/326/409).

August 2, 2013 at 12:28 PM

Blogger Regular Guy said...

My three teen-age sons spent yesterday afternoon following the game on the internet and poring over AL central and wildcard standings and talking about October. When I was that age, it was the late 70s and I was already taking Royals post-season play for granted. Hope is a beautiful thing.

August 2, 2013 at 12:38 PM

Blogger Regular Guy said...

My three teen-age sons spent yesterday afternoon following the game on the internet and poring over AL central and wildcard standings and talking about October. When I was that age, it was the late 70s and I was already taking Royals post-season play for granted. Hope is a beautiful thing.

August 2, 2013 at 12:41 PM

Blogger Unknown said...

I think you are spot on with he Maxwell trade. But I think this market presented a huge opportunity for a creative GM. With no bats on the market, what was Billy Butler worth? What could we have picked up for a Santana/Butler combo? Or holland/butler combo? Or throw Hoch into the mix? Could we have gotten a front line starting prospect or a Wil Meyers type bat from someone with a little creativity? I love Butler and his hit tool, but could have leveraged him and set ourselves up with a front line, major league ready starter or stud middle infielder or a true power corner that is cost controlled? I think we could have done all that and not thrown in the towel on the season..

August 2, 2013 at 1:42 PM

Blogger stephen said...

Well said. I am excited about the prospect of being let down sometime over the next month (or possibly two).

August 2, 2013 at 4:26 PM

Blogger brdirck said...

Nice to see this long winning streak. But it's also sobering that in the process the Royals only picked up one game on the Tigers. They only directly face the Tigers in two more series this season, both in Detroit. An abject lesson on how hard it is to make up significant ground in a division race this late in the season.

August 2, 2013 at 4:27 PM

Blogger Unknown said...

Rany, I know you don't need guys like me to defend you; but I feel like speaking up. Bob Fesco was out of line this morning. I don't care if he likes you or not, but taking time on his show to bad mouth a man offers opinions and analysis for FREE just struck me wrong. I was especially irritated because it was clearly motivated by business rivalry. Anyways, I changed the station and defended you in my mind. Thanks for the work you do.

August 2, 2013 at 5:12 PM

Blogger Loserville said...

Where would the Royals be in the standings if they would have had Lough instead of Francour and Tejada instead of Getz? They waited too long to make these changes and will likely pay for it.

August 4, 2013 at 5:35 PM

Blogger Chris said...

Rany, it takes a big man to realize he may have been wrong. If I'm ever wrong then I hope to cop to it like you did....;)

One thing regarding Lough. You mention how a 27 yr old is unlikely to make it big in the majors. Looking at his minor league numbers he could have come up to the Royals just as easily two years ago but was blocked by Francouer (at least in the Royals mind!) I just wonder if he is being downgraded unfairly for the faults of the Royals.

August 4, 2013 at 9:22 PM

Blogger Unknown said...

Rany, how many times are you going to make an ass of yourself then apologize for it the next day?

I can't keep track of how many times its happened just in the last season and a half alone.

Sports bloggers have absolutely ZERO accountability.

Someone needs to pop a pin in that inflated head of yours.

August 5, 2013 at 10:45 PM

Blogger twm said...

ZERO accountability? You mean, like admitting that he was wrong about something, that sort of accountability?

August 5, 2013 at 10:53 PM

Blogger twm said...

Or do you want him fired? Because, you know, you are always free to stop reading.

And since when are baseball analysts at ESPN or MLB TV or you-pick-it-talk-radio held accountable for being wrong? How are bloggers at all unique in the world of opinion-based sports commentary? And why should anyone who voices an opinion about sports be "held accountable" anyway, beyond may saying something like "yeah, I was wrong about that"?

Is it just that you do not enjoy reading another person's opinion? Or maybe only those opinions that do not happen to echo your own.

August 5, 2013 at 10:58 PM

Blogger MoCrash said...

One thing I liked about the Tejeda signing is that, besides being cheap (and not guaranteed), is that if there was still something left in the tank the Royals had added a veteran to the clubhouse. That's a dynamic which doesn't show up in sabermetrics (but should somehow be quantified). Tejeda has been through many a long season, including with a 103-win division champion who was counted out in May and thought to have no chance (Oakland in 2002, his MVP season), and is a true professional whose enthusiasm is contagious -- ever helpful to a young club going through growing pains.

Granted, Tejeda isn't the player he once was -- neither would the Royals wouldn't have coughed up $14.8m for him back then -- and he may be starting at 2B by default, but his solid, consistent production has at least lessened the gap offensively between an average MLB 2B and what the Royals were using. And even with increased PT, Tejeda is showing no signs of decline.

August 6, 2013 at 6:58 AM

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August 6, 2013 at 7:00 AM

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